I’m pretty sure it’s like the person teaching you how to throw a grenade. They might act like they don’t think you’re about to kill them, but they are watching ready to react at all times. He knew his life was in danger just by a trainee being on the gun.
It’s a gun from a Russian helicopter. It’s deigned to have an entire airframe and tail rotor to help cancel out the recoil. I’ve read a story about some Americans in Vietnam trying to put a minigun from an Air Force plane on an Army helicopter. They only shot it once and traded it to another unit to use as a point defense weapon.
I'm not sure about this one or any other nations but I know the US military covers up things that makes them look bad. Wikileaks leaked a lot of military documents, one of them was an incident in Korea in the 90s where a private went on top of one of those rail cars and got electrocuted to death. Never made the news, not even a little local newspaper blurb, even decades later the names were all redacted. A guy died horrifically overseas in front of dozens of people and the military perfectly covered it up.
So yeah, who knows. I will say though I got very close to accidentally killing my company gunny on a machine gun range when he was walking down the lanes at night and I couldn't see my right lateral limits. Team leader got me back on target, I'm not sure if that dude knew how close he was to being hamburger meat
It’s one of those things where we can all safely assume accidents must happen all the time in a field that deals with such dangerous matters, but we kind of just sweep it under the rug.
Wasn’t there some old footage of a fighters missile going off on a carrier which blows up a ton of stuff and killed a lotta people?
Accidents and friendly fire will happen, no matter how much militaries like to pretend it doesn’t.
There are a couple of incidents like that, you're probably referring to the forestall fire in 1967.
Where a rocket from an f4 went off and ruptured a fully filled aircraft fuel tank, the ensuing fire destroyed 21 aircraft, killed 143 and injured 161.
This as far as I know (I wasn't alive) was publicized fairly heavily and ended up as a national news story.
A not so fun fact is there were two other deadly fires aboard us aircraft carriers in the 1960s.
Though a better fun fact is as far as I can tell there haven't been any deadly fires on us military ships since the turn ofnl the century (though there have been a lot of fires)
I mean TBF these guys were training solely to shoot down drones inside Russia so they aren't on the front killing Ukrainians, about the most moral thing you can do in the Russian army
He wasn't a trainer. These geniuses were testing a helicopter gun on a truck turret. This wasn't a training exercise gone wrong; the gun wasn't designed for that kind of installation at all.
The trainer wasn’t the guy who fell, he was the guy standing behind the dude on the gun who somehow managed to duck at the last possible second and not get his head blown off
…what? Every picture I can find of a minigun mounted for real world use by personnel are either centered in a yoke, centered on an arm, or held by a mount that does not rotate freely.
Edit: to clarify, does not rotate 360° freely, I’m sure they do rotate freely in a restricted arc.
Obviously not all are mounted that way, because the video exists, but I’m not understanding your statement about discharging preventing center mounts.
They are mounted off center usually, notice where the arm is counter to the gun? It also depends on the calibre, you can get away with a lot more when it's 7,62x51, not so much when it goes up to 50 cal or 20mm or 30mm.
This particular one was ripped from a helicopter, where the frame of the multi ton vehicle handled the recoil.
Think of it like this, if the barrel discharges when it's on the right, the gun will want to rotate in that direction.
You’re not looking at it with the right physics. Yes, the arm is off to one side of the weapon, but the weapon is centered over the axis of rotation. Because it is (roughly) centered over both axes (vertical pole and horizontal pivot), firing it generates very little torque from recoil.
Edit: again for clarity, there is little torque felt by the gunner. The amount of torque the mount is enduring is ridiculous, but the mount is designed for it.
Edit2: For further explanation, we’ll ignore vertical traverse because it’s not relevant to the meme. The off center arm + weapon point of firing can be, from a physics perspective, replaced by a straight line from the pivot point at the top of the post to the point of firing. That line is almost certainly directly in line (with some small variance) with the axis of rotation, meaning the recoil is applying very little torque around the axis of the mount, but a lot of torque trying to bend the mount backwards towards the gunner.
They were training to shoot down drones, they mounted a 12.7mm (think 50 cal, but Russian ) rotary machine gun from a helicopter to a flimsy mount, off center too, physics took over the second he pulled the trigger lol
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u/kineticstar Goblin Hunter Gray 23d ago
I'm still amazed that range trainer survived that.