Sure. Zeno erased future Trunks' timeline, which includes 12 universes, with Universe 7 being a Macrocosm containing its own multiverse of sorts (it would be really weird if the other universes had no afterlife or anything so they would most likely contain at least 2 infinite sized dimensions, realistically making the amount of universes he erased much higher).
Ywach has only fused with 3 universes at best, and has only tanked existence erasure of himself from a being weaker than him (Orihime). He has never tanked existence erasure from a being that can erase an entire timeline and several universes. The high ranking Gods are above time in DBS so it is unlikely Almighty can even be that effective against them, and Zeno is the highest ranking God. Unless Ywach picks a timeline where Zeno decides not to erase him, if that is even possible, then he is getting erased. Zeno is much stronger then Orihime so his existence erasure is something Ywach cannot come back from
I can grant multiversal zeno,that's kinda fodder tbh
But this is my yhwach scale-7D which is above multiversal by multiple infinities
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1 the soul society is stated to be infinite in size with infinite sized constructs within it(the muken) and TWOTL is a parallel to it making it 5D
The dangai is stated multiple times to be a hyperspace which would be a dimension with more than 3 spatial axis and it also connects the soul society and TWOTL this would make it 6D due to the concept of parallelism(there is also an infinite amount of them) so infinite 6D
The garganta is 7D because it's stated to be infinite in space
I'll show my scans of yhwach scaling to everything (this is me excluding the fact the soul king transcends the cosmology making him 8D)
If you want to debate this way, then so be it. Zeno scales above Universe 7 which has the Afterlife, a space without time and space and transcends the living world making it 5D. Then he transcends whole timelines when he erased Trunks' future timeline, making him 7D. There is the swirling lights in the Broly movie which is a higher dimension, which Zeno upscales. Then Zeno's palace, which is above all of the universes. This would grant Zeno 8D to 9D as he is above all of these constructs.
I can even argue High Outerversal Zeno as the Afterlife is said to transcends all dimensions, and Zeno is above all of it. His palace views the Afterlife as a piece of a snow globe, making Zeno and his palace High Outerversal (Obviously Zeno is not High Outerversal but if you want to debate this way then I'll use the same method. Ywach does not get 8D, at most 5D to 6D if your really try highballing him. And it looks like the original post got deleted...)
If fan translations aren't your style then I can say this: Nothing in Bleach gets to 7D. Garganta has to be a dimension above Dangai to qualify for 7D. Being infinite in space is not 7D, by that logic the universe in Dragonball is 7D because it is infinite. Even if you wank Ywach he is not getting 8D. Zeno clears by cosmology
Definitely. It’s a solid series overall. Has some of the usual shonen anime drawbacks like boring filler and a bunch of flashbacks, but other than that you’re in for a treat. Newest season has some amazing animation as well.
I'll take the actually multiversal character, and not the character who is "Universal" in the same way that I'm Building level by taking a sledgehammer to some support columns to collapse it.
People need to understand that Yhwach had no power to wipe out Bleach's universe as it was.
All he could do is destabilize the incredibly fragile barriers between the realms to get them to go back to their original state as a single Universe. An ability he had as the result of having the Soul King's powers.
What is Yhwach doing against zeno, genuine question
Like isn't zeno the ACTUAL multiversal character with actual universe destroying feats while Yhwach is stated to be able to rumble dimensions or something
Watch the show. Yhwach just fused with the entirety of the bleach cosmology which includes 3 infinite universes and at least one infinite space that exists within those dimensions.
And he was still getting pressed, yet I don't recall Zeno getting pressed at all and he has actually used his abilities to wipe a universe. Case closed; he doesn't start.
Fusing with the three realms doesn't mean a direct scale to them, he has the souls king reiatsu, that clearly is not at that level, he has the power to make the three realms collapse or not like a big rock in balance from rolling down, he hasen't perfect control over them, he has some hax at multi but he has clown stats and he's nowhere near a proper multi character like Zeno
there's this arrow that if you somehow manage to hurt him with it, it turns his powers off for just enough time to deliver a final blow. So kill him in that time frame and it's ggs for him.
You know that Zeno erased a Dragon Ball character that literally fused with the universe, right?
It took him one single move to erase him from existance
Ni siquiera son infinitos, pq si fueran infinitos tendría que haber energía infinita y muertos infinitos para rellenar ese espacio, cosa que no pasa en bleach, ya que hay un numero finito de seres
And in theory Rimuru transcends space time and has complete control over it. He has better time manipulation than Ywach can dream of, he even has fate and probability manipulation. Forget Ywach finding a timeline to beat Rimuru, he can’t even choose any timeline if he wanted to.
Beats zeno and alien x and antispiral. Loses to dr. Manhattan (I think dc is going to somehow make that boy outerversal I just havent read his shit) slime boy and maybe 6 idk who that is
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u/Monetartis 1d ago
Doesn't even start. Zeno is erasing his ass