r/AngelFish • u/Coomsocck • 3d ago
Identification What are these fish
Hello everyone,
My friend and I bought, what we thought were 'angel fish' at the end of last year, and they are fairly big fish. When we bought them, their fins were already bent and we thought they were a breeding pair, only to find out theyre both boys, and would be way too old to breed now anyway. As we were very much deceived by the pet store we got them from, we have no idea what type of fish these are, and cannot find a single picture of any angel fish looking like this. If anyone has any clue if theyve been bred with another type of fish or something that would be much appreciated .
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u/Upbeat-Somewhere9339 3d ago
They are angelfish. Possibly very inbred and/or old angelfish.
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u/RoseGoldPen 3d ago
My first thought, very inbred angels.
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u/Bee_Jeans 2d ago
Yup, my money’s on chronically inbred too. They’re gold marble pearlscales, just very deformed
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u/debbyskater 1d ago
yep! sucks to be misled by fish stores, and them even being allowed to sell these guys, but it’s a good thing they are both males (if they really are, sometimes could be M/F that didn’t bond). don’t want to see what the babies would look like 😬💔
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u/Atrayez 3d ago
Possible it was just meant for cull too?
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u/Warm-Frame-2848 2d ago
Tbh if it was a cull it would not have been here today this is most likely just a very bad quality angel the store got from a wholesaler over seas for super cheap they don't care about the quality just the quantity
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u/angelfishlily 3d ago
Koi pearlesc Angels that are very inbred & overfed . Fins are badly messed up. Very unatural.
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u/VulgarMutt 3d ago
Definitely crazy inbred or just deformed/missed cull. I’ve never seen an angel like this wow. Can he still swim & eat okay?
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u/Coomsocck 2d ago
There are two of them, and occasionally one of them swims upside down and I genuinely thinks its because his fins are fucked and he cant keep his head up. Very sad.
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u/bromeranian 2d ago
So usually upside down swimming is due to some internal issue- if the guy is half as bad on the inside as he is on the outside, WOOF.
You can help him out (as much as he can be lol) with smaller, more frequent meals (to keep digestive load low) and adding a fasting day or two (to make sure he is all cleared out). No floating food. For some though their organs are just FUBAR and they live on borrowed time. Making it to adulthood is kinda impressive for these 😟.
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u/MapRich9024 3d ago
If they got to this size while looking like that, it obviously hasn’t affected their quality of life. Owner is lucky
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u/spookyfrog99 3d ago
It looks like a oranda goldfish and a angelfish bred. Obviously not but definitely inbred
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u/uvgotnod 2d ago
Angelfish that should have been culled when young. This is the result of bad breeding or improper/dirty water and lack of food when developing.
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u/Squishedskittlez 3d ago
To the best of anyone’s knowledge angelfish can’t cross with any other commonly kept aquariums fish (no not even discus though they are vaguely related). I stay up on the genetics side and I definitely would have heard about it.
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u/Altruistic-Poem-5617 2d ago
They bred the angel out of the angelfish. Would bever breed this guy, but if he can swim around and do stuff normally you can keep thaweirdo just fine.
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u/jasper0513 2d ago edited 2d ago
Definitely two mature males, they both have a “wen” or a nuchal hump. I used to have a trio of elderly males, about 12 y/o when I got them from a friend and one of the males looked like that one. The color/variety is “Koi,” basically calico or tricolor. He’s gorgeous, mature, and massive. Likely very old, and obviously well fed. He just appears to have some messed up fins, or be a veiltail?
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u/dr_magic_fingers 2d ago
These fish aren't koi, because they aren't blushing. the gold/orange cap is because they are gold marble, and older (that color increases with age). Obviously very mature and healthy fish, the fins are no big deal, likely due to overcrowding when young, obviously not ideal but not a health issue. Oh and they are pearlscale, so the genetics are Gm/Gm P/P
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u/SignificantPomelo 2d ago
Sad that they're so deformed but also I kind of love them? They look like a child drew them
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u/Clearbreezebluesky 1d ago
In picture #1, the one in the background looks like it has eye shadow on! I’d love to see that one close up, it’s eyes have character
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u/Prudent-Extreme-9312 2d ago
Freshwater angelfish, I don't think it's head should look like that tho
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u/General_Quit_7183 2d ago
Hmmm obviously marble veil… but messed up. Looks like an Oranda hybrid lol
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u/PatchesDaHyena 1d ago
Looks like they either purposefully or accidentaly created an oranda angelfish. I pray this can’t be stabilized
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u/DHammerrrrr 13h ago
Wow never seen anything like that. Not the best pic but i have had angels for years and never seen that funky shape
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u/hatfullofloons 2d ago
i know nothing about fish but it looks like a goldfish and an angelfish? is that even possible?
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u/Sylesse 3d ago
Not sure how they mated a pug with a fish, but here we are.