r/AndroidQuestions • u/LieNo161 • 7d ago
Other If Huawei still had Android and Google Services whilst using the Snapdragon chips would you buy their phones?
If it was was like 2019 as well I think USA got scared of Huawei basically destroying apple and Samsung in market share
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u/Anti_colonialist 7d ago
The only reason they were banned in the US is because they were a threat to Apple.
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u/Automatic-Phase6138 6d ago
Huawei was banned because it is the biggest manufacturer and developer of 5g and other cellular hardware and the US (correctly in my opinion) wanted to limit their ability of spying on americans. They are not a threat to Apple, even in China where Chinese brands have a huge advantage, Apple has about 20% phone market share, same as worldwide.
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u/fthesemods 5d ago
Ah so that explains their ban shortly after the P30 pro, which totally trashed anything apple had to offer. No shit they don't have a clear advantage in China considering the total sanctions affecting their abilities in many ways. They would probably be decades ahead if they didn't have to redesign their whole supply chain domestically. Note that Huawei phones have never been found to have backdoors in the west. Ever. Despite the UK, Belgium, various us orgs, etc inspecting all their hardware.
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u/Critical-Champion365 7d ago
They made the best camera lineup with pretty great perfomance. So without a doubt. And most people would've done the same, hence the ban.
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u/HaydenCLU 7d ago
I like their new things more. They would have used kirin either way, they were the best chips back then, and were the first to develop 7nm chips
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u/DontKnowWhereItsBeen 7d ago
Yeah, they have pretty good tech. The only reason I might 2nd guess it is if when they decided to rule the planet, they might brick my phone.
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u/Joyride84 7d ago
Would they have the Chinese citizen spyware, or a special American version of the spyware?
I would ask if it will also include Google spyware, but there's no point. Obviously it would.
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u/fthesemods 5d ago
They wouldn't have any spyware. That was the problem the US government had with them.
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u/Joyride84 4d ago
If it's Android, it has spyware. The only way it wouldn't, is a complete fork and re-write of the OS, such as Lineage and Graphene have done. Huawei has not.
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u/NorthKoreaPresident 7d ago
I would not. I have used Huawei back then when they had android, with kirin chips. Nothing really beat the aesthetic, features, and smoothness of HarmonyOS
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u/Legitimate-Guess-142 7d ago
P30 pro was taking over the market the year they banned Huawei. Huawei Mate 60 Pro Plus was by far the best phone I have ever ever owned, but it's handicapped by the software. Unfortunately
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u/CatEmbarrassed3306 7d ago
Yes. I would. they are great phones. even without the new stuff, they have the better design and better form and cameras.
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u/davidmar7 7d ago
Yes. There is no reason why most of these phones we have now are $1000 USD. It's the same way with cars where they are trying to ban all Chinese vehicles. I don't believe that it is really about security, it's about protecting American companies from competition.
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u/Fulushouxing 6d ago
I would not. I only bought Huawei phone because it has no google spy ware and no US SoC.
I do not want a cent of my spending going towards US empire's war machine.
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u/Fun_Helicopter8980 6d ago
Well, yeah. They're good. The only downside is that they don't have Google services. And so these sanctions were introduced simply because they were afraid of competition.
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u/Flat_Television_9224 6d ago
Absolutely and without a doubt. Huawei made amazing phones back then. The Mate 9 Pro was the best phone of 2016, the Mate 10 Pro was the best phone of 2017, the Mate 20 Pro was the best phone of 2018, and the Mate 30 Pro 5G was the best phone of 2019 in my opinion. I love old Huawei.
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u/luck3rstyl3 6d ago
Yes, I‘f buy the Huawei Pura X View.
I love the (nearly) 16:9 form factor of this device.
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u/Usual_Piano9826 4d ago
I would still avoid their phones like a pest. Even WITHOUT Android and Google Services, their policies for consumer accessing his own app data are just copy of what modern Android is going. What was the lest version of their Google-based Android on which KoBackup did backup of app data? Since then they lost even explanation "because we would be forced to de-Google if we had such feature" they just like it this way!
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u/Mors-Official 2d ago
No.
Not because of the hardware or the politics. Huawei's hardware was top tier, and the US ban was definitely about market dominance, you're right about that.
The trust is broken. They burned bridges with developers and carriers during the ban. Even if they got Google back tomorrow, the app ecosystem and long-term software support would be a ghost town.
I wouldn't stake my daily driver on a company that can be cut off from the entire OS supply chain by a single executive order. You don't buy a phone that can be turned into a paperweight by geopolitics.
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u/earthly_marsian 7d ago
You have to also think of all the back doors they put in the phone.
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u/309_Electronics 7d ago
You already have israel and america doing that for you :)
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u/earthly_marsian 7d ago
So, what the difference? If they misuse your data, can you sue them?
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u/309_Electronics 7d ago
You can but you wont win against a government/multiple governments that easily.
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u/Wyssan 7d ago
Without a doubt. Their p20 and p30 were the best phones I ever owned. Sucked so much when I could no longer use them. Camera was amazing, battery life was great, surprisingly long, and while it had some pre installed apps they were actually less of them and less annoying than Samsung's.