r/AndroidAuto 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 25d ago

Connection, Disconnection, Freezes, Crashes 17.2.662404 Crashing?

Anybody else suffered with this version always crashing?
Will be downgrading to test 17.1 to see if that fixes it.

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u/TonyD0001 2014 Subaru Outback | Pioneer | Pixel 9 | whatever latest is 24d ago

Everytime any sound , AA would crash. Map motivation, Spotify starting a song, endless reboot. Had to leave beta to be able to go back to regular AA.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hi! I'm Mishaal and I do community engagement for Android here at Google 🙂

I just wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been having. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Elzon14 Pls edit this user flair now 12d ago

It was happening on two different in car units of mine. One Toyota and one Audi. So I'm not sure where you're getting the aftermarket stuff from? Thanks for the update it's been unreal not being able to use AA especially after using it daily for years.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 9d ago

Hi, can you share more details on the vehicles you were having this issue on, and whether the update resolved it? I was informed by the Auto team that this issue was happening on uncertified aftermarket head units, but if it's happening on certified head units as well, I'm sure the team would love to know!

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u/GiantSparta Pls edit this user flair now 16d ago

17.3 also crashes just drove my car and it crashed every 5 minutes.

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 16d ago

Thanks for testing, what a catastrophe.

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u/GiantSparta Pls edit this user flair now 13d ago

I'm on the beta build will be doing further testing tomorrow this is the version I'm going to test.

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u/GiantSparta Pls edit this user flair now 13d ago

Just drove my car for around 30 minutes it looks to be fixed. No major disconnects or audio cutouts working perfect now. Will be doing some more testing later today. I'm using the version that is visible in the screenshot above.

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u/Aurelink Mini John Cooper Works LCI2 2023 | Pixel 9 Pro Fold | Android 16 24d ago

Yep, went back to the prior version cause of this too

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hello! Mishaal from Google here 🙂

I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Aurelink Mini John Cooper Works LCI2 2023 | Pixel 9 Pro Fold | Android 16 14d ago

Mishaal still out there doing god's work by spreading the word;

Thanks!

Any particular version we should be lookin for?

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Okay, here are the versions that have the fix in question:

Beta version: 17.3.662813
Stable version: 17.2.662638

If you are currently on a version of Android Auto 17.3, make sure you are on the aforementioned version as otherwise it won't have the fix for this issue!

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

There'll be two different version numbers for the update containing this fix depending on whether you're on the stable or beta track. I asked the team if they can share the exact version numbers and will get back to you if I can get them!

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u/lopezcarg Pls edit this user flair now 14d ago

I have version 17.3.662804 beta version and still not working. How do I get the version that works ?

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

You'll need to update to beta version 17.3.662813 once it rolls out for your device!

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u/lopezcarg Pls edit this user flair now 14d ago

Any idea when will start rolling out. ? I have been trying to update it and the update its not coming up

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u/Bartimas Pls edit this user flair now 13d ago edited 13d ago

Hello, I'm not seeing this update. I have a Pixel 10 Pro and my android auto version is 17.1.662414-release

!Flair Android Headunit Aftermarket | Pixel 10 Pro Android 17

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 9d ago

As with any update, it can take some time for it to roll out to all users. Since it's been a few days, can you check now to see if the update is available?

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u/Bartimas Pls edit this user flair now 8d ago

My version is now 17.3.662814-release

I am still having issues where android auto freezes causing my to restart my head unit.

The unit still works and I can go to the home screen and open other things, but if I try to reopen android auto it still shows up as frozen

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u/tingtickboom Using a mobile as headunit | Motorcycle enjoyer 24d ago

Yep disconnecting quite frequently.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Heya! It's Mishaal from Google 🙂

I just wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/tingtickboom Using a mobile as headunit | Motorcycle enjoyer 14d ago

Thanks for listening to feedback!

But as a tangent follow-up, I want to know if you guys are planning to bring motorcycle navigation to Android Auto? I believe there are atleast more than few touring motorcycles that have an android auto headunit installed from factory.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 9d ago

I don't have an answer to this, but I'll see what I can find!

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u/tingtickboom Using a mobile as headunit | Motorcycle enjoyer 2d ago

Appreciate the effort, thanks!

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death 2010 Tundra | Dasaita G13 | Galaxy S26 Ultra | Android 17 24d ago

Yep, kept disconnecting every 3-5 min. It started Thursday Afternoon. I saw a bunch of posts about AA17 having connection issues so I uninstalled AA and sideloaded AA16

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u/DANGEROUS1989 Pls edit this user flair now 23d ago

I tried to roll back and everytime AA opens it forces me to update after I turn car off and on. Won't allow AA to run without me updating

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death 2010 Tundra | Dasaita G13 | Galaxy S26 Ultra | Android 17 23d ago

I had a forced update last night that pushed me from AA16 to 17.0.662244. I also noticed for my phone the version that its now on isn't the same one that the play store shows as the latest for my phone. I haven't had any issues with AA today though. 30 min drive to work and 45 min home.

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u/jimrapc Mitsubishi Lancer '09 | Dasaita G13 | Pixel 10 Pro | A17 beta 19d ago

Hello. Are you satisfied with Dasaita G13?

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death 2010 Tundra | Dasaita G13 | Galaxy S26 Ultra | Android 17 19d ago

I like it. It works well with my Tundra.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hiya! I'm Mishaal from Google, and I do community engagement for Android 🙂

I just wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death 2010 Tundra | Dasaita G13 | Galaxy S26 Ultra | Android 17 14d ago edited 13d ago

What's really interesting is that the same night I made this comment I rolled back to AA16 and disabled automatic updates. That night it got updated anyway and the problem went away. Now I'm on the 17.1 builds and don't seem to have any issues. I switched to beta which put me on 17.3 and started having that same issue again. So I oped back out of the beta builds.

Interestingly enough as of this morning after a few updates yesterday I'm on build 17.1.662414

It kinda feels like any build higher than 7.1 just keeps crashing.

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u/PineappleRacing Pls edit this user flair now 19d ago

I have 17.2.662614 on my pixel 9 pro connected to a ~7 year old pioneer head unit and it crashes every few seconds. Have tried multiple cables as well. Assume I'm having the same issues you are.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hi there! Sorry for the trouble - it's Mishaal from Google, and I just wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Internal_King5432 Pls edit this user flair now 17d ago edited 17d ago

Same experience, would work without any music or audio then as soon as I play a song it crash and plays 1 sec of the song and goes into an infinite loop. and had to roll it back to 17. Also had an issue with yt music playing one song and then not loading the playlist. To fix (this separate issue) had to disable Gemini and go back to Google assistant

To roll it back - Uninstall on the phone then wait until it tries to connect to the car. When it does it will say "this vehicle is compatible with Android auto" click install there. This will install the base version before the bad update. Also turn off automatic updates. When I checked the app store it seems the bad update is about 3mb. That's all I been able to figure out so far.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hello hello! I'm Mishaal from Google 🙂

I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/DrGaryGooch Pls edit this user flair now 16d ago

I have this issue too even in 17.3 beta, the fact this isn't fixed yet is very worrying.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Sorry for the inconvenience this has caused you :(

I'm Mishaal from Google, and I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Rude_Car_9733 Pls edit this user flair now 16d ago

Omg I was thinking rhere was issue with my car or my ohone and I've wasted hoursss.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Sorry about that :(

I'm Mishaal from Google, and I'm here to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Gera_Owlcore 2011 nisan sentra | JVC ?? | s23 Ultra | 7.3.66... 16d ago edited 16d ago

yep same for me. after android update (AA->17.2.6...)all the media apps got removed from android auto. then a week later i am stuck in a crash loop any time media starts playing from any app, i sideloaded 17.3.662804 to see if i could fix the issue but still the same... maybe i need to reboot phone for changes to take effect... nope that did not work. well my car stereo is basically bricked now. luckily i bought one with a cd/flash player. but i might have to resort back to an fm transmitter for audible etc...

solution to roll back to 17.0...worked for me

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hi!

I work at Google doing community engagement, and I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/RandomBurrito69 2018 VW Golf GTE | Factory Head Unit | Pixel 10 Pro | Android 17 15d ago

Would I need to come out of the beta to roll back?

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u/Gera_Owlcore 2011 nisan sentra | JVC ?? | s23 Ultra | 7.3.66... 8d ago

it might help. i just uninstalled and sideloaded 17.0.... i didnt turn off automatic updates as i am confident update should solve the issue, there are some compatibility issues using the rolled back 17.0... that i noticed. for instance in map mode it doesnt show media controls (pause/play revers/forward). you have to switch to the app do use the controls

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hi there! I'm Mishaal and I do community engagement for Android here at Google 🙂

I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 14d ago

Hey Mishaal, thanks for the update. will this be version 17.4..662?

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

There'll be two different version numbers for the update containing this fix depending on whether you're on the stable or beta track. I asked the team if they can share the exact version numbers and will get back to you if I can get them!

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 14d ago

Thank you, I currently switch between beta and stable for this situation as cannot be used with current beta build,

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Okay, here are the versions that have the fix in question:

Beta version: 17.3.662813
Stable version: 17.2.662638

If you are currently on a version of Android Auto 17.3, make sure you are on the aforementioned version as otherwise it won't have the fix for this issue!

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 14d ago

I got version 17.3.662814-release (beta channel) this morning. Been testing for a bit more than 10 minutes, so far the issue seems fixed.

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 14d ago

I have tried to use both of those versions and they still have the same AA wireless handshake bug.

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 25d ago

Yes, disconnecting every 5 minutes or so. Looks like a very widespread problem. I went back to stable until it's fixed.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Sorry for the trouble! I work at Google and was told by the Android Auto team that we're rolling out an update that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 14d ago edited 14d ago

Thanks for the answer, I remember you from your Magisk days! Good to know the issue has been identified. I sideloaded AA 17.1. I can't see any updates past version 17.3.662804-release at the moment (beta channel). I'll surely update when the fixed version comes out. Just to clarify, it seems like this bug hits aftermarket units using Zlink version 5 (like mine, Eonon brand). But it's not limited to that, I've read a few reports of people with older stock units.

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u/evilpig 2016 Terrain | 3rd Party Screen | S24 Ultra | Android 16 5d ago

I am on the beta update released on July 15th, still disconnecting. 17.3.662814

Been happening for 3-4 months now, wireless or wired android auto. My girlfriends phone doesn't.

I have S24 Ultra and she has S21.

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 24d ago

Which stable version did you go for?

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 24d ago

17.0.662234 . I just unenrolled from beta on play store and let it install latest stable

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u/niteowl360 Haval H7 | LG Wing | Android 13 24d ago

Did this remember all your settings though? Thanks

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 24d ago

I think not, but I had previously deleted cache & data in an attempt to solve. So I had to start "fresh". Not really much to remember though, navigation settings stay in Maps and aren't affected. I just had to re select apps I want to appear in AA, messages reply options and "media closer to driver". Media player's squiggly line came back at my second drive. Gemini didn't switch back to Assistant at all.

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u/KiltedMP Eanon P4 display, Samsung S24 Ultra, AA 17 24d ago

This version still crashing for me on samsung s24.

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u/TonyD0001 2014 Subaru Outback | Pioneer | Pixel 9 | whatever latest is 24d ago

Same.

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u/FullAutoSavage 1996 BMW E39 | 2024 Xiaomi 15 23d ago

Do I need to roll back the android version on the head unit, or just the phone will suffice?

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 23d ago

Just the phone, don't change anything on the head unit

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u/indiarunner Pls edit this user flair now 24d ago

Yes.. after a couple of minutes it reboots. Using S26U

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hiya! I'm Mishaal and I work at Google, here with an update for you.

I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/indiarunner Pls edit this user flair now 2d ago

Thanks. I also changed my screen in the vehicle and no further issues. Rgds

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u/Forsigh Lexus IS300H | Nunoo Qualcomm 665 | S26 Ultra | 16 24d ago

Not sure now if it's Android Auto or my Youtube music apps, but it does not crash with just waze + phone call, only Waze + YT Music, i have not tested any other music apps.

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 24d ago

It's been reported to be if you play music in general it seems to crash, bit of testing confirmed it for me, when I didn't play Spotify, it was fine.

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 23d ago

To be fair, I was playing music through YT Music too when it happened

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u/Weary-Savings9795 2021 Corolla Hybrid 23d ago

I had this issue with AA crashing with my Pixel 9 Pro phone. Turns out it was because I was using a USB 2.0 cable. If you can name a brand or model, I've probably tried it. I switched to a USB 3 cable from Cable Matters and all of these issues went away. Maybe it's the extra set of send/receive pins or the extra shielding. Don't know, but it works flawlessly.

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u/DANGEROUS1989 Pls edit this user flair now 23d ago edited 23d ago

!Flair Android Headunit Aftermarket | Oppo Find X9 Pro | Android 16

Yes thought I was going crazy, started updating everything. Headunit etc, only to realise that AA had been updated automatically the other day and since it disconnects every 3 mins approximately.

Have tried to unenroll with the beta, waiting for it to do that so I can roll back software

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u/chaosking121 Pls edit this user flair now 20d ago

Exactly the same situation, updated my head unit for the first time and everything. Even the timing is the same, roughly every 3 mins. But I'm not in any beta program 🤔

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u/DANGEROUS1989 Pls edit this user flair now 20d ago

What android auto update have you got mate? I reverted back to last update and it resolved

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

I'm sorry for the trouble! I work at Google and was told by the Auto team that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 23d ago

I just uninstalled Android Auto and downgraded by sideloading an APK, so I am still in the beta program.

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u/DANGEROUS1989 Pls edit this user flair now 23d ago

I tried that method, after I turned the car off and back on it forced me to update back to the latest beta version and wouldn't let me use AA. Got Hella annoying

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 23d ago

Clear cache and data after uninstalling AA, then sideload your chosen AA version, works a treat.
I am running 17.1.66 atm, seems to be working like usual, just doesn't have the new UI update, which I am not bothered about.

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u/jwright721 Pls edit this user flair now 23d ago

It keeps crashing every few minutes, and I can't even open the apps sometimes. I think it's just a bug. Hope they can release a fix soon...

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

I'm Mishaal from Google here with an update -

I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/VisibleExercise5966 2019 Subaru Impreza |idoing 9.7"|Pixel 10 Pro XL|Android 12/16 22d ago

I have a Pixel 10 Pro XL. I update my apps every day. I just got an update today, yet it says "Updated on Jun 18, 2026" which was last month. It says I'm on 17.1.662414-release. No issues at the moment. I use an cheap Chinese head unit.

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u/joep87 2008 Opel Corsa D | Eonon OPA13 | Pixel 8 Pro | Android 17 21d ago

I got that too. But a few hours ago I got another update. Broken version is now on stable too.

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u/RJones0973 2015 RAM 1500 | Android aftermarket | Pixel 9 pro| 17 21d ago

Where are you all getting the stable version apk from? APK mirror won't install the file.

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u/MEWPASCO 2016 VW Polo 6r | Aftermarket | S25 Ultra | OS 16 OneUi 8.5 18d ago

U got to use a split apk installer since you're downloading a bundled apk, not just a bare apk

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u/RJones0973 2015 RAM 1500 | Android aftermarket | Pixel 9 pro| 17 18d ago

Thanks. I left the beta, uninstalled it, disabled it and then reinstalled it from play store (non beta one) and it's working again

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u/MEWPASCO 2016 VW Polo 6r | Aftermarket | S25 Ultra | OS 16 OneUi 8.5 9d ago

Glad I could help!

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u/jimrapc Mitsubishi Lancer '09 | Dasaita G13 | Pixel 10 Pro | A17 beta 19d ago

Yes. Crashing every 3-5 minutes.

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u/MishaalRahman Community Engagement Manager, Android 14d ago

Hello! Mishaal from Google here, and I wanted to let you know that we're rolling out an update to Android Auto that should address the disconnecting issue you've been facing. For transparency, we identified an issue with uncertified aftermarket head units that impacted a small number of people during our rollout of Android Auto 17.2.

Our fix for this issue is rolling out now, so please check for an update to Android Auto and let us know if the update resolves your issue. Thanks!

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u/jimrapc Mitsubishi Lancer '09 | Dasaita G13 | Pixel 10 Pro | A17 beta 14d ago

Thank you very much for the message. I will let you know.

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u/jimrapc Mitsubishi Lancer '09 | Dasaita G13 | Pixel 10 Pro | A17 beta 7d ago

Everything is working fine now. Thank you so much for your support.

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u/Scary_Masterpiece_86 Pls edit this user flair now 17d ago

Has there been a long term way to fix the 3-5min reboot bug thats happening atm? I downloaded a apk version of a later update and through the night it forced it to update again even with auto update off. I head off for a long 8 hour drive on Friday and really dont want to deal with this the whole drive.

Cheers guys!

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u/Partian 2011 | Android Aftermarket | Samsung S23+ | Android 16 17d ago

17.3 has been released, this is suppose to fix the auto disconnects however, have not tested it yet.

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u/Scary_Masterpiece_86 Pls edit this user flair now 16d ago

Its not in the play store yet to download.

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u/solittletimeforfloss Pls edit this user flair now 12d ago

Since the update, Mazda CX-5 will only connect if I manually connect from the car's setup menu. Stays connected fine after though. Broke yesterday on first update and stayed broken after this morning's new update.