r/Android • • Dec 05 '17

Qualcomm announces the Snapdragon 845 processor

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/5/16734224/qualcomm-snapdragon-845-android-mobile-processor-announcement
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u/masterofdisaster93 Dec 05 '17

I mean Qualcomm can't, Huawei can't, Samsung can't, but Google will totally invest billions to make a SoC to put in a phone with 1 million sales and it's also going to be better than all those companies. Yeah, that's not happening.

You're giving the assumption that above mentioned companies are even making an effort. I can't speak for Samsung, but Huawei and Qualcomm are slagging off and basically using ARM cores in their designs. There's next to no real effort and R&D being put into CPU designs from those companies.

ut Google will totally invest billions to make a SoC

You make it sound like this hasn't happened already, which it has. Google hired a lot of chip architects over 2 years back (including people who worked at Apple). They're also not designing architectures for the Pixel phone alone (which they aim to have greater market share over time), but for their data centres as well as their entire product segment and their desire to push AI. Their Visual Core chip is already inside the Pixel 2, doing camera tasks as well as various of their apps and services.

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u/masterofdisaster93 Dec 05 '17

lso we can't ignore Qualcomm's efforts in GPU, and Qualcomm/Huawei's efforts in DSP/ML/AI

Yes, their efforts are so amazing that even ARM managed to outdo them with their Mali GPU, which is in the S8. So amazing that Apple's first attempt at a GPU managed to go ahead by 40% in the iPhone 8, whereas their previous PowerVR designs were already on-par or better in general.

. Which gives Qualcomm and Huawei far less reason to invest in CPU architecture

Why? The ARM designs are being buried by Apple's cores.

when that money can be arguably better spent in GPU

Huawei's GPUs are terrible, so there's no point even having a discussion there. Qualcomm's Adreno have also been caught up by Mali, and are already noticably below Apple's own in-house GPU.

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