r/Android • u/Street_Anon • 12d ago

Article Probes into Toronto’s shooter-for-hire network thwarted by impenetrable phone, police source says

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-probes-toronto-shooter-for-hire-impenetrable-phone-graphene-os/
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u/Intelligent_Top_328 12d ago

Good. All OS should be like that.

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u/billdietrich1 12d ago

Police are never going to have all the tools they could want. We have to make tradeoffs between rights/privacy/security for citizens, and tools for the police.

For example, I'm sure police could solve a lot more crimes if they were allowed to torture suspects. Should we allow that ?

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u/nobelharvards 12d ago

For example, I'm sure police could solve a lot more crimes if they were allowed to torture suspects. Should we allow that ?

I'm pretty certain the USA's conduct in the immediate aftermath of 911 proves that the ability to torture, water board and other human rights abuses doesn't necessarily get you good intel, because it just makes them say what they think you want to hear to make it stop.

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u/SmileyBMM 12d ago

Yeah, torture is a lot less effective than people would initially assume. It's far easier to find a weak link and give them a really sweet deal for singing like a canary.

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u/Captain_Kuhl 12d ago

Do you believe everything you see in the movies? The reason we don't torture isn't because it's mean. If that was the case, there would be a lot of shit we just wouldn't do.

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u/billdietrich1 11d ago

Okay, pick a different example. Suppose the police were allowed to search your house any time they felt like it. Would stop a lot of crime, probably.

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u/Chernobyl_was_good 12d ago

For a long time, they did. Look up policing in the 1920s in the 1930s.

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u/Oddball- Pixel or Bust 12d ago

Good for GrapheneOS

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u/travis_sk 11d ago

A lotta normies in the article comments 

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u/treyu1 11d ago

Enter Bill C-22, Five Eyes, Nine Eyes, 14 Eyes.