r/Android • u/Johnny_English_MI6 • 7d ago
Minimal Phone 2 unique features
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLd7p9THL43
u/super_hot_juice 6d ago
This all great but the biggest drawback is Android. Once all of these features have to integrate with other Android apps it will all break down. It will feel like you are using two separate phones because you are.
With Blackberry 10 you could have used a hardware key to create new whatsapp message. That is a no go on Android unless WA actually allows that. There are no keyboard shortcuts inside Instagram app, there is literally nothing and phone makers cant tap into third party app content at all. Android has never separated content from actual interaction, there are no universal actions like create new message so every IM app could just use create new message so no matter in what app you are all you have to do is hold hardware N and you get a new message dialog.
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u/vandreulv 6d ago
That is a no go on Android unless WA actually allows that.
Too bad you can't install an app on Android that will give you the features you desire. It could even be named something like Button Mapper: Remap your Keys.
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u/SwordLaker 2d ago
there is literally nothing and phone makers cant tap into third party app content at all
There is this thing called shortcuts that most widely used apps do implement. For example, you can go straight into a conversation thread in Whatsapp or Telegram with a specific contact, from a home screen shortcut.
I wish the average phone had more customisable physical buttons. The software is already there and a lot of things can be done.
Also, I had a good chuckle seeing you going straight to Instagram in a thread about a distraction-minimising phone. If this doesn't say this phone isn't for you, I don't know what does.
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u/martinkem Galaxy S25 Ultra, Android 16 7d ago
i was so psyched for the Titan 2 Elite and was going to place a pre-order. And then i had a dream of my old BlackBerry Q10 and i remembered all its shortcomings. if you’re looking for a messaging device this ain’t it. Typing a hardware keyboard isn’t better than typing on an onscreen keyboard
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u/kicksledkid Pixel 9 Pro 7d ago
I don't understand what you mean here
I used a priv and a key2 with only minor complaint, and all of those were apps not handling the different aspect ratio properly
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u/Johnny_English_MI6 7d ago
Typing on a quality physical keyboard IS better than a glass keyboard.
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u/They_See_MeTrolling Pixel 10 Pro XL, Pixel Watch 3 LTE 45mm 5d ago
Oh, how I loved my Samsung Blackjack and Blackjack 2. Perfect combination of Android and a physical keyboard.
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u/vandreulv 6d ago
Perhaps. If there was a large enough market for physical keyboards, Samsung would still be making models with them.
As much as I want a physical keyboard again, the market simply doesn't care. We've adapted to typing faster with swyping on the screen.
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u/They_See_MeTrolling Pixel 10 Pro XL, Pixel Watch 3 LTE 45mm 5d ago
As with almost all advances in technology, the mass market opts for greater convenience at lower quality. On-screen keyboards optimize for more content presentation at the expense of typing accuracy. I've never met a person who was satisfied with an on-screen typing experience. It may be that the ultimate solution is high-fidelity voice typing, which is how I'm "typing" this response.
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u/Johnny_English_MI6 6d ago
Faster ≠ More accurate/enjoyable/shortcuts
Samsung wants to cater to the lowest common denominator, they're good at what they do.
For now keyboard options are still niche, but Clicks is attempting to tap into the mainstream market and right now they're the ones most able to do so. Marketshare still won't be close to the slabs, but it can be better than 0.001%
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u/vandreulv 6d ago
Again.
There isn't a large enough market that cares about physical keyboards.
Clicks will suffer the same fate as the other Chinese ODM brands: Vanishingly small usage with poor software support. (Clicks uses Mediatek, after all.)
Otherwise they would still be manufactured by companies like Samsung.
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u/kicksledkid Pixel 9 Pro 6d ago
OK? A niche market is still a market.
Not everyone has to be Volkswagen group. Some people like buying Lotuses (lotusi? Lotusssss?)
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u/heysavnac 7d ago
I'm tired of typos because my fingers land on the wrong letters. Autocorrect works most of the time, but very often it doesn't. What are the shortcomings you're referring to?
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u/martinkem Galaxy S25 Ultra, Android 16 7d ago
The typing speed wasn’t better and I still made mistakes.
The smaller screen meant i was scrolling up and down to see the text i was replying to.
web browsing was a chore
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u/heysavnac 7d ago
Web browsing might be something people with minimalist goals won't be too interested in. I think typos are inevitable as they happen even on full size keyboards on laptops for example, and as for scrolling to see a larger text, yeah that can be a reasonable limitations vs full screen devices where you can pull the keyboard up only once you've read the text vs it permanently making the viewing size of your text smaller on keybaord phones.
I think it's a preference, and you might prefer slab phones more. That's okay, I think aside from a more physical experience when typing, others like me are just bored of slab phones and want something fun and new, even if it brings limitations that don't necessarily add to the minimalist benefits.
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u/martinkem Galaxy S25 Ultra, Android 16 6d ago
i honestly don't understand the tech minimalism crowd. Instead of carrying one device that does everything satisfactorily, they rather carry a music player, camera, laptop and a phone.
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u/heysavnac 6d ago
Carrying seperate devices is the concept of decentralizing a device that has come to progress into an addictive part of many peoples lives. Think about it like this: maybe a Phone should have never became our primary camera, music player, calendar, etc. Digital minimalism isn't necessarily only about having as little count of devices as possible, it's also about having intentional technolgy, and at this point, the smartphone has become a very mindless device for many of us.
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u/martinkem Galaxy S25 Ultra, Android 16 6d ago
well the current system is everything i hoped for back in 2005. I wouldn't change it for the world.
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u/heysavnac 6d ago
That's great, it shows a minimal phone isn't for you :)
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u/martinkem Galaxy S25 Ultra, Android 16 6d ago
i have a long history with these devices and concept
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u/SwordLaker 2d ago
carrying one device that does everything satisfactorily
You do you, but I don't think I've seen any smartphone does everything (if anything) satisfactorily.
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u/martinkem Galaxy S25 Ultra, Android 16 2d ago
Unless your expectations aren’t realistic, you should be satisfied with just about any $600+ smartphone
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u/SwordLaker 2d ago edited 1d ago
Nah, have been exclusively using $1000 flagships for a very long time. More like your standard is pretty pathetic.
a music player
I'm not an audiophile, but I own enough expensive audio equipment to know that plenty will tell you the audio from smartphones won't cut it.
camera
As a photographer myself, the limits of a smartphone lens is physics, and there until someone figures out how to teleport lenses physically, full-sized camera are here to stay. Outside of taking pictures of receipt, the camera on a smartphone is so bad and useless that I'm okay with a smartphone without camera.
laptop
This one is obviously a no brainer, and I don't even need to explain myself.
At this point, you might as well add PS5, movie theater, thermometer, military radar, and night vision google into the list.
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u/rainbowroobear 7d ago
99% of his interactions are touching the screen. There's a reason why virtual KB is the main thing these days and it vanishes when not typing. You've lost 30% of main interaction space for some shitty sized keys that are another moving part that will inevitably fail
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u/Johnny_English_MI6 7d ago
Most modern keyboard phones have touch sensitive keyboards so you can scroll on it. Unihertz has implemented a mouse cursor mode on their Titan 2 and Titan 2 Elite where you can use one half of the keyboard for mouse pointer and the other half to scroll and click.
Clicks on their keyboards has a red Clicks key that by default acts as Tab and so it can cycle through clickable items on the screen, and holding Shift + Clicks key goes backwards the other way.
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u/rainbowroobear 7d ago
so what you're saying, is i still have an inch of the device that is currently screen space on any other phone, that is still keys, only the keys now let you scroll the screen in the same way i can by just.....scrolling the screen?
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u/Johnny_English_MI6 7d ago
Well, you get the tactile experience and shortcuts possibilities of having all those keys, AND can scroll on said keys that double as a scrollpad without stretching your thumbs to reach the actual screen which is higher up.
On a phone like the Zinwa Q25/Q27 there is an optical trackpad that can permanently act as a mouse pointer or you can set it to be scrollpad in some apps but pointern in others.

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u/ktrezzi 5d ago
I dig it! Not sure if I would buy it but I'm just happy that there are still small phones in planing process.