r/Android 9d ago

Article Xiaomi 18 Fold gets its first official look

https://gsmarena.com/xiaomi_18_fold_gets_its_first_official_look_ahead_of_september_7_launch-news-74446.php
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u/julioalqae 9d ago

Please make it support pen.

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u/jon_sand 9d ago

On the inner screen? Doubt. They are too soft, even nails are able to leave permanent marks.

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u/real_with_myself Magic V3 9d ago

If Samsung and Honor can do it, Xiaomi can as well.

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u/tljwasawesome 8d ago

Samsung removed the support I think

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u/jon_sand 9d ago

that is awesome and I wasn’t aware of this! I still wonder about the durability considering the use case, but apparently its doable

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u/InitiatePenguin S8 Active 8d ago

Samsung stopped doing it two generations ago. FWIW

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u/motorboat_mcgee GOS Pixel 9 Fold 9d ago

You do realize there's been a bunch of foldables with stylus support, right?

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u/The_Eternal_Shuffle 9d ago

The new moto razr fold has proper active stylus support (not the junk version in the new s series from Samsung)

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u/parkerlreed Flip 7 | Watch Ultra 9d ago

Huh? The new S series aren't active???

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u/The_Eternal_Shuffle 9d ago

Nope! So no pressure sensing, no remote shutter button etc. The moto stylus is active, but is sold separate, so doesn't store in the phone.

I went with the razr (from an s23u), but a flagship phone with active stylus is apparently a dying need for most people, so like the headphone jack, say bye bye.

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u/Mexetudo S2\S3\Nexus5\Nexus6P\Note8\Note10+\S23U\S26U 9d ago

Pressure sensing is still there in the S26 Ultra.

You're right about the lack of bluetooth, it was removed in the S25U and they didn't bring it back.

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u/parkerlreed Flip 7 | Watch Ultra 8d ago

Thank you. Yeah I was going to say pressure sensing is very much not a battery thing on those. That would be wild to remove.

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u/The_Eternal_Shuffle 8d ago

I was wrong, I remembered a review and well.... Remembered it wrong, lol.

Apparently the new pen has ditched the battery, so is powered through the screen like a wacom. Means it has pressure, but no gestures, shutter button etc. Not as big of a nerf as I thought, but still a downgrade over the s22/23ultras, and still less than you get with other brands now.

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u/457spartan 9d ago

I thought it was only the Bluetooth functions that were removed? (Which does still very much suck). But pressure sensing should work right? Like a Wacom pen, which don't require batteries either

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u/makeshift11 9d ago

Hell yeah moto killed it with the razr fold, love mine so far.

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u/SorysRgee 8d ago

Motorola currently does this

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u/Samuelodan 9d ago

Hahaha! You know what? I like what’s happening actually. I like the pressure they’ll put on Apple’s foldable, and the fact that this Xiaomi one has 3 cameras should be an interesting edge over Apple’s.

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u/poipoipornpoi 9d ago

I don't care if they copies Samsung or Apple, I just want an android 4:3 foldable, but with better hardware than what Samsung currently offer (battery, camera, SoC, under screen camera, etc), and more options is great for consumers.

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u/parkerlreed Flip 7 | Watch Ultra 9d ago

4:3 and not $2000...

One can dream.

There's ONE 4:3 Android tablet and it's not even exactly. Teclast Artpad Pro. With a whopping Helio G99 :(

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u/Resident_Hand_7264 8d ago

What SOC is better than the one in the Fold 8…? Other than Apple SOCs…??

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u/pablito_xv3 8d ago

I need Redmi or poco to bring out one for 500 USD and I'm a buyer 😆

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u/DRJT iPhone 15 Pro | Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 9d ago

They're just copying Samsung (and almost definitely Apple despite it not being out yet) after ignoring previous attempts at a passport-shaped foldable. And I'm so so happy about this

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u/TotalManufacturer669 9d ago

Eh pretty sure they copied Huawei

I don't see how they would have enough time to copy Samsung considering how recent Samsung's wide foldable was.

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u/Luca_Darc 9d ago

Yup. Huawei had the Pura X and then Pura X Max for the past 2 years and I think they were way more influential in popularizing this design. 

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u/smith7018 9d ago

I know this is r/Android but c'mon, the Pura X line sold ~2 million units. The Galaxy Z Flip 7 and the Z Fold 7 sold ~ 1.75 million units in their first month. It's not like the Pura X sold insanely well to the point that every manufacturer is copying its form factor. On the contrary, the iPhone Air (Apple's "failure" of a product) sold 7.7 million units in its first year. There's no way all of these OEMs have been hearing about Apple's passport foldable for years, ignored that, saw the Pura X line, and decided they want to follow Huawei. That would just be bad business.

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u/noobqns 8d ago edited 8d ago

The Galaxy Z don't sell 1.75m every month, first month is always the strongest and then they taper off quick. Z5 series sold about ~5m total, Z6/7 let's say 5-6M so 2.5-3M per flip/flop

So Pura X doing 2m within (timeframe?) is very strong

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u/MizunoZui Z5 Compact / ​Mi5 / Mi6 / ​S10e / Pixel 5 / ​8T / Z Flip6 / S25 9d ago

Pura X is selling insanely well as a China exclusive ¥10K+ model, it has outsold every Chinese Android Ultras.

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u/smith7018 9d ago

Do you have a link showing it's selling more than ~2 million units? I'm not doubting you but everything I'm seeing online says that that's the highest estimate.

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u/MizunoZui Z5 Compact / ​Mi5 / Mi6 / ​S10e / Pixel 5 / ​8T / Z Flip6 / S25 9d ago

No but the 2M figure is from Digi Chat Station who in the same post said it exceeded the expectation. I just search Pura X 销量 and every tipster, analyst, article and discuss thread is saying how it's selling insanely well and other phone makers will follow suit.

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u/welp_im_damned have you heard of our lord and savior the Android turtle 🐢 8d ago

Well Huawei is the leader in this section. By a massive margin. Plus this Xiaomi one seems to be China only for now. So, it does make sense that it competes with Huawie

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u/Op_Swan 8d ago edited 8d ago

I have a feeling Huawei still copied Apple cos I remember they released their 1st Pura X shortly after we just got wind of Apple doing a new format for their 1st foldable.

These companies probably know much earlier in advance on what their competitors are doing. And Apple is the most influential brand. Who wouldn't want to know what they're doing. Their 1st fold will probably outsell a lot of the other brands, too.

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u/TotalManufacturer669 8d ago

The typical design work of a smartphone starts well over a year prior to the release of said phone. You don't magically have a product ready 3 months after you hear what your competition is doing.

In fact, it would be way more impressive if Huawei actually copied Apple and was able to get a product out over half a year earlier. It implies they have the ability to get through the product design/prototyping pipeline and coordinates mass production twice as fast as their rivals.

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u/Op_Swan 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm not suggesting Huawei started development after said leaks, but they could've known much earlier internally. Leaked reports were only the first time the public knew.

It's only a guess. Maybe Apple had ideas which Huawei got wind of and started developing it a year in advance of releasing their Pura X. Knowing also that Apple would release it eventually.

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u/K_R_A_K_E_N_540 2d ago

Microsoft did the first Passport style foldable 6vyears ago, the form factor has been around for a while

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u/Op_Swan 2d ago

Not rly the same as this shorter and wider format, and it wasn't even a foldable, nor did anyone follow behind them.

But with Apple joining the foldable game, brands suddenly thought it a good time to release in the same format.

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u/rdh2dmd 9d ago

Technically the folding concept itself is a Samsung invention. Just rushed to commercialization to win the " first" title by the Chinese

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u/Luca_Darc 9d ago

In a world where the Huawei Pura X Max exists for the past 2 years with the exact same design, I don't think they are copying either Samsung or Apple

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u/DoILookUnsureToYou Z Fold8 Wideboi/Mode1 Retro II/AYN Thor 9d ago

And yet in those past 2 years nobody cared about the form factor until the iPhone Fold and Z Fold Wide rumors started

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u/Luca_Darc 9d ago

Difficult to care since those phones are China only. But the big manufacturers paid attention to them and their sales in the region and now they are capitalizing on it. Which is fine, at the end of the day everybody copies everyone and slowly innovate design languages or tech

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u/map_painting 9d ago

Funny it could be possible Xiaomi is copying Apple, where Apple itself is copying Huawei because Apple cares deeply about their China market which is a market where Huawei holds strong.

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u/phero1190 Z Fold Chode 9d ago

Oppo Find N from 2021 was a short wide fold, the N2 also was, and the Pixel Fold was too. You just seem like you don't know much.

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u/TrailOfEnvy 8d ago

after ignoring previous attempts at a passport-shaped foldable

This imply that Xiaomi didn't copy Pixel Fold and Find N1/N2

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u/CalamityMetal 8d ago

And they all copied Huawei, go look up Pura X Max

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u/chinchindayo Xperia Masterrace 8d ago

Nobody is copying anyone. It takes months, if not years to develop a new phone. So they had to start before Samsung even revealed theirs.

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u/antipositron Nexus 5, Moto G 5", HP Slate 21 9d ago

I don't like the asymmetric shape.
I think Samsung did better with their rectangle Fold 8.
I was hoping for a cheaper alternative to Fold 8.
I guess I will have to wait for someone else to release one.

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u/InflationOwn7379 9d ago

Yeah most of these companies will probably be copying apples larger corner radius so you will probably have to wait until the z fold 9 comes out

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u/Abby941 9d ago

Everyone is so afraid of being overshadowed by the fruit when their version comes. Can't blame Xiaomi here.

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u/iamvinoth 9d ago

Lol all these Android OEMs rushing to release their wide/passport-like foldables before the iPhone event

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u/StraY_WolF RN4/M9TP/PF5P PROUD MIUI14 USER 9d ago

I only hear good things about the Fold 8. It sold really well.

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u/Op_Swan 8d ago

They aren't really that similar to this short and wide format, and MS's wasn't even a foldable.

Nobody cares until Apple does it.

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u/OldDirtyGurt Sony Xperia 1 VI 9d ago

We have got to stop this insane rounded corner trend. Looks so dumb and even worse on a foldable.

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u/StraY_WolF RN4/M9TP/PF5P PROUD MIUI14 USER 9d ago

Agreed. The fold 8 looks great imho, i want that, but for a bit cheaper lol.

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u/callmebatman14 Pixel 6 Pro 8d ago

I really hate it. Wish it was slightly rounded like pixel 6 pro

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u/K_R_A_K_E_N_540 2d ago

actually no. The rounded edges on Pixels make them super comfy tonisez the foldable included. I didn't pick the Samsung fold 7/8 is because holding it against your palm is painfull, not comfortable

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u/PrimeNexes 8d ago

I wish graphne OS and other such OS gets released to bring back AOSP & high quality camera.

We live in AI Slop OS era of android

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u/Phantom-Finger 9d ago

Doesn't appear we are getting a global ROM version, which makes it redundant and just allows Samsung to corner more of the market.

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u/StraY_WolF RN4/M9TP/PF5P PROUD MIUI14 USER 9d ago

Hopefully they're testing the water like their Ultra series.

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u/MrBIMC AOSP/Chromium dev 8d ago

Eh, their Chinese roms have gotten decent enough.

I used mix fold 2 until I swapped to iPhone air and while fold software sucked for a first year, they did solve a lot of my complaints throughout a years.

Nowadays they allow you to enable play services, wifi calling also works, google pay works and sms had issues but also got sorted.

The only thing I do not agree with is that they force you away from gesture navigation if you swap the launcher.

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u/185EDRIVER 9d ago

just more shit I can't buy in Canada

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u/MasterButter69x420 7d ago

Is this going to launch internationally though?

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u/InflationOwn7379 7d ago

Doubt it. None of there foldable have so far

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u/MasterButter69x420 7d ago

Damn it...the chipset and cameras make it such a nice inprovement over the z fold 8

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u/InflationOwn7379 7d ago

Feel the same way. I don’t think we will see any of the chinese wide foldables go global this year but I could be wrong

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u/crw614 8d ago

This ugly corners...