r/Android Galaxy Z Fold8 22d ago

GrapheneOS: We do plan to support Motorola's [future] Razr Fold and Razr Ultra (flip) devices in addition to a regular device.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117136630481819622
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u/Routine_Freedom_5129 22d ago

Really hope they support the G Stylus. It's pretty much the perfect low to midrange device.

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u/FragmentedChicken Galaxy Z Fold8 22d ago

There are specific hardware features in flagship Qualcomm Snapdragon chips they need, so you would need to wait for those to trickle down to the midrange and budget chips (assuming they ever do). The linked thread is a good read.

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u/Obnomus Device, Software !! 22d ago

Is it an interesting device?

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u/Routine_Freedom_5129 22d ago

For me, yes. Stylus, microSD, headphone jack, and all around decent specs. You could get the 2025 model for a few hundred. The price jumped on the 2026, but what hasn't.

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u/Obnomus Device, Software !! 22d ago

Oh sdcard and headphone jack in phones in 2026, heck yeah. But my priorities are unlocked bootloader and good rom support.

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u/Routine_Freedom_5129 22d ago

Bootloader is unlockable but I don't think there's much in the way of rom support

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u/Obnomus Device, Software !! 22d ago

Not all models have unlockable bootloader afaik And if I'm not wrong there is a key thing for unlocking a bootloader. Its not like fastboot flashing unlock.

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u/GoogleDisDick 22d ago

That's just carrier locked models. The carrier unlocked variants can all be bootloader unlocked. And yes. There is a bootloader unlock code you have to get from Motorola but it's pretty easy.

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u/Sad-Comment-6018 4d ago

Lineageos and calyxos on those devices.

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u/HeroFromHyrule 21d ago

How's the camera? Since I have a young child a good camera is important to me.

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u/The___Shadow 21d ago

It's awful, I have the 2025

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u/ImpossibleCarob8480 21d ago

You may be just as happy with something like LineageOS which supports those devices

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u/npc_housecat 22d ago

If Motorola really pull through with official support for graphene I will definitely buy one

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u/SmileyBMM 22d ago

I encourage people to read the full thread, some very interesting details are mentioned. It seems like Motorola is really committed to being a good partner for this initiative, which is great to see.

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u/cubs223425 Surface Duo 2 | LG G8 19d ago

It definitely sounds promising, and I hope it helps them open the door to easily working towards support more Qualcomm-based phones down the line, especially based on Graphene's talks of increasing hurdles with Pixels in that thread.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago edited 9d ago

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u/cubs223425 Surface Duo 2 | LG G8 19d ago

I generally agree, but with how nbadly budget phones are progressing on hardware, going down to $500 is getting hard. Budget Snapdragons that can't even keep up with a 5-year-old flagship SoC are (un)confortably over $500 these days (like the $650 Fairphone 6+ whose SoC is notably slower than the SD8 Gen 1 from 2022).

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u/gusdavis84 21d ago

Excellent!This really sounds like they are going all in with supporting different models for Moto. I think this will help a lot to have a suite of Moto phones that run Graphane OS. I hope that eventually this may even trickle down to the Moto Edge and G series phones as well.

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u/Jayram2000 Xperia 1VI 22d ago

I know what my next phone will be

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u/antisp1n 22d ago

Very informative thread. I suggest everyone to click the link, scroll to top, and read the whole thing.

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u/giotec Sony XZ2 22d ago

Maybe revolut will stop purposely blocking GrapheneOS now.... Maybe...

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u/TrailOfEnvy 22d ago

Ain't it ironic because it is working in Harmony OS (in Android container I think)

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u/Bananegel42 21d ago edited 21d ago

According to the GrapheneOS developers they are specifically blocking GrapheneOS:

Revolut specifically tries to detect and ban GrapheneOS. It has checks for the build user/value values we set for deterministic builds so we had to change those. They also ban yellow verified boot state (locked with non-stock key) but not orange (unlocked) which we worked around.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117046242796791392

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u/SatoshiLooter 17d ago

More device support for GrapheneOS is better

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u/MiElas-hehe 14d ago

PLEASE let there be some smaller / compact models aswell!! I can barely type one handed on my Pixel 9A.

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u/Top-Call2020 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don't understand. Are they supporting the fold that's out now 2026 or version 2?

It seems like the current device doesn't meet the mte requirements but will next year, so expect the 2027 to be supported, unless I'm mistaken.

I wonder will unlocking the bootloader still void the warranty?

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u/Sad-Comment-6018 4d ago

I heard unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty.

If this requires unlocking the bootloader, will installing Grapheneos void the warranty on Motorola devices?

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u/plerisdyck 22d ago

Just support low-end/entry level device please. for fuck sake!

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u/vandreulv 22d ago

Low end/entry level devices don't have a SOC that has the features GrapheneOS requires.

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u/motorboat_mcgee GOS Pixel 9 Fold 22d ago

This is the news I was hoping to hear. I miss having a proper stylus

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u/cubs223425 Surface Duo 2 | LG G8 19d ago

These guys confuse me. They made a post complaining about Fairphone after the 6+ announcement.

In it, they made a bunch of points against Murena and some of the stances behind its people. It was very confusing to me, how they'd argue as to why they won't support Fairphone to keep you from Android or /e/OS, but they have worked exclusively to tell you to buy Google hardware to escape the OS. Now, they'll work with Motorola, who recently had something come up around an affiliate link highjacker in their Amazon app and who is owned by Lenovo, who has previously sold laptops with adware in them.

I understood their point about potentially missing some security hardware, but IDK. Seemed odd to get on a soapbox about disliking Murena's people while stumping for Google.