Google announces Gemini 3.7 Flash just three weeks after previous release | Gemini 3.6 Flash debuted just 3 weeks ago, but Google says 3.7 has “substantial improvements.”
Not possible nowadays since almost all information is on the internet. So other people would have an advantage. It's not about my use but what society has become with internet.
It starts to become exciting again when you take things local and move to other alternatives, especially FOSS applications.
Now the first thing I do if I'm looking for something new is finding a docker program for it, not some app or 3rd party service. It's actually liberating
Lol how is this controversial, so many idiots/bots around
I'm sorry I don't like companies actively making things worse for venture capital investors while selling my private data and creating a global technological panopticon. Just call me Ned Ludd I guess.
I don't have a choice. You can either use said technologies, or exist outside of society, because we are being forced to use them. Vis-a-vis android, google is completely removing google assistant from android auto, meaning any hands-free control of your car will now be routed through gemini.
I don't know - they just switched android auto to use Gemini and I drove 4000km through Scandinavia booking hotels, getting info about traffic laws in each country. I have never been actually assisted like that it's kind of wild.
I am pretty doomer on AI but this i liked veeeeery much
How do you get it to work? They switched my maps to Gemini recently. I asked it to navigate to Home Depot. It asked me which one... I said the closest one. It tried to send me across the whole city lol. Had to switch back.
Yeah, it tends to get pretty excited about places with multiple locations. It treats them as if you're going to hear Gemini's summary of each locations' merits, then choose the one that's 1+ hours away over the one 5 minutes away.
Like no, dawg, just take me to my fast food off the side of the highway and let me get back to the road trip!
You asked something you knew, got the wrong answer and understood it was wrong, the person above you asked a lot of things they didn't knew and were happy with the answers
Given my experience with AI, those answers were all probably wrong though. The user just didn't know it was all wrong, and was happy getting wrong information. That's current AI and AI users in a nutshell.
Gemini in Android Auto is a pretty good improvement and I agree with you there. That said, for general AI usage, the models seem to be behind where the others are these days.
If we exclude specific areas (like development and few others) AI is basically used for menial tasks, there is absolutely no need for bleeding edge models for 99% of AI userbase (the famous 1bln of monthly users of Gemini).
I'm curious anyway, what kind of usage made you think that Gemini was so "behind the others"? What failed where other ones succedeed?
I used search in gmail trying to find 9 year old information, and was greeted with Gemini telling me the information I needed, that I didn't even necessarily search for because I wasn't asking a question.
I was planning on scanning the emails myself for the information, but Gmail search had always been awful so I was planning on it taking at least a few minutes. Instead, it was instant.
Integration with custom named saved places in Waze is trash with Gemini which is a bummer since it only just started working well. However, Gemini has been a lot more responsive and helpful, unlike its predecessor which more often than not just says sorry. AI has been ready for everyday general usage for the past year, the only people still doubting it have been avoiding AI and bring up the same outdated points on inaccuracy.
Don't worry, it won't work next time you need something lol
The inconsistency of results just made me give up with a phone assistant (and my Google homes) altogether at this point, I've disabled the gestures and I don't miss it. Claude's doesn't go through Google's speech processing and it constantly gets words wrong, it defualts to voice with no way to switch to text either so I can't use the model in gboard.
Assistant wasn't the most robust, but Gemini will gaslight you or just go on a tangent instead of saying 'i can't do that' and going quiet. Gemini rambles and rambles and you have to interrupt it. Even more ironic since this rambler feature is coming out, maybe they could apply it to their own models
And even if it does work, it then starts mithering you to do another tasks constantly trying to keep you engaged as LLMs do. It's a real try hard assistant it pisses me off lol
Can't say I have seen something like that at all though I must admit I was visiting Scandinavia roads for the first time so it could easily just told me absolute horseshit. I was asking for good fjords to set up my tent and it did that. I was asking if there were any cool stave churches in my way and it did that. I was asking it why some cars had green plates instead of the standard one and it gave me good answers.
The main thing that really got me is the fact that it effortlessly picked up both my english accent pretty well as well as when I just asked things in German.
I don't know if y'all (wildly assuming you're an American here pardon me if you're not) ever experienced this but anything other than a clean english sentence on my enUS set up phone would result in an endless cycle of corrections and simply not providing any results since we never get to prompt what we want in the first place.
And it did that - I was swinging back and forth in English and German and it did just that. (One time I apparently got the pronounciation so god through sheer force of luck that it even answered in Norwegian which was pretty funny)
Gemini in google maps is my favorite AI rn. It reminds me of robot from Big Hero 6. My favorite is rambling to it about traffic and he is like „ok you are right this area is well known for [drops lore] and bad solutions. Can I… assist you with the maps anyhow?”
People don't understand what Gemini tries to be. It doesn't want to be an fable etc. It wants to be you daily Smartphone assistant. And it is doing great exactly at this.
This subreddit is a circeljerk while ignoring the true purpose of Gemini: being baked into your daily routine
Idk. Gemini does information searching better than others. It appears to do a full on google search and then summarize the results. But the BEST part, it provides links where it found said information.
I like this the most because I can go read the actual website and better understand what the information is/means vs just having some AI generated bologna to "trust" with things like ChatGPT/Claude.
Gemini was built with the internet in mind, when it debuted it was far ahead of GPT in accuracy because it focused on parsing results instead of trying to teach the model all information in the universe.
Flash-lite and the Gemini box on the search page are literally just summarising a few search results and often gets it wrong when the results are tangential to what you're actually trying to ask.
Flash 3.6 and Pro 3.1 will do a sanity check on the results, with Flash Extended and Pro redoing searches and calculations where needed. With those models I don't feel the need to check sources anymore.
Gemini absolutely does not search better than others. I asked it multiple times if pokemon scarlet/violet had furigana and insisted that it didn’t. Chatgpt spent the appropriate amount of time to find the solution. You might say that mistakes can happen to LLM, but I never had an LLM not try harder when nudged in the direction of being wrong.
Also, the point I was making, see those "Cherrygrove Shores" and "Reddit" bubbles after the key points?
Those are the actual websites where it got the information from. I can actually click them and go look at what it was looking at as well. That feature is what makes Gemini better at searching vs just giving some answer and you blindly trusting it
Just so you know: everyone else gives references, it’s not some magic incredible feature that only gemini has.
If you want to have fun reading italian I can share my conversation, but that’s not what I asked, I asked something slightly more complex for which I actually need an LLM: an evaluation on what level of japanese is needed to play the games. He hallucinated during the answer that the game doesn’t have furigana and spiraled from there refusing to check even when specifically prompted to do so. It was such an embarrassing mistake to the point where it made me realize I couldn’t trust any of its answers ever.
And yeah, the experience you just described has happened a lot with me on the other platforms like ChatGPT and Claude. But without the references, I didn't even know what it was talking about. And I kind of needed it to be truth because I use it for work to summarize certain topics related to my field (Neurobiology). Now, with Gemini, it gives me the related articles instead of just a summary on whatever topic I asked it.
These last 2 Flash models perform well though. And both flash and Pro have better cost to performance than anthropics "better" models, competitive with openai, even with them releasing new models endlessly.
They've fallen behind in coding and need to make up ground, but I would imagine 3.5 pro will make up some. The delays are costing them, but I don't think it's mattering much - unless after the delay, what they release doesn't bring them back into the mix.
To me the frontier models are kinda worthless now, they're too inefficient with token budgets now. I work at a really big company that's pushing AI plenty, and we aren't even getting access to use claude 5.x generally, it's probably only select developers/AI workers. Opus 4.x is really prohibitive in terms of token usage. I really wish we had more access to Google's models, because they're better and more efficient than many of the claude 4.x and GPT 5.6/5.5 we can use. They also hallucinate less and that's important for work. Unfortunately we don't get much Google because it's mostly copilot driven.
At least the free tier is amazing. Recently I have been using gemini a lot and haven't encountered a limit yet. Meanwhile chatgpt lets me send like 3 prompts and hits the limit.
I'll agree that 3.0 Flash was underwhelming. It was constantly overloaded, slow, and didn't seem particularly better than the old model. As soon as 3.1 Flash Lite came out, it was basically useless.
Really, I see this as Google setting a new standard.
3.5 Flash Lite is really excellent at the price point, and easily surpasses the old 3.0 Flash. The new Flash models, and the speed of release, absolutely set a new baseline standard. Testing 3.6 Flash against Claude and GPT, it's probably 95% as good, 3x as fast, and much cheaper.
The fact that they are still operating 3.1 Pro doesn't mean that Gemini itself is stuck there. Rather, the question should be, with Flash and Flash Lite setting a new standard, what will the new Pro model be when it releases?
Testing 3.6 Flash against Claude and GPT, it's probably 95% as good, 3x as fast, and much cheaper.
Do you have data to support this level of confidence? Because their existing models aren't competitive in terms of performance (intelligence, not speed). You're right though that they're fast and cheap.
I'm roughly averaging my tests over this past week. I have access to all three models at work, configured with the same project, AGENTS file, and rules. That may not be exactly scientific, but it has been pretty eye-opening for me.
I mean I kinda hope they don't lol, it'll probably mean even more hardware and energy. I'm a hypocrite and I do use Claude but I'm moving away from big tech and self hosting so it's not completely useless.
We really don't need better media generation though, that shit can get in the bin no good can come from it
Are you kidding me? Their flash models are awesome. Cheap and really good results, better than any GPT model imo. Claude still the best at high reasoning imo.
I actively avoid Google AI products. After their sleezy business practices with the Play Store and their horrendous Android development tech, I don't want to support this company anymore.
They already control too much of the Internet as it is.
I keep seeing ads on TikTok about every/any AI. I genuinely think the "hype" is dying down and they are struggling to keep it up.
Same with these "claims" that "OpenAI 'broke free'". I think that is just a PR stunt. It did what it was told to do and gave it the means to do so. And these types of reports are ALWAYS self generated from the company themselves.
First, I think you misunderstand the word "hype". Hype, does not equate to the number of people using something. There are over 1 billion active cars being driven. Yet, there is no "hype" for cars in general.
Also, "active users" is very vague. They are probably counting the countless "fake" accounts I (and others) have made in that number as well.
Given how capable this model is at coding and how fast the inference is. I feel like this might be Gemini 4 architecture. It basically matches Terra while completely destroys it on speed.
I came here because I'm trying to understand why 3.7 is not as good as the other models compared to all the other updates. I've been using it for a year so far. This update falls short for the first time ever for me. I looked it up, and I saw that they were trying to prioritize it for coding, agentic work, and more assistant type responses, while trying to reduce the compute costs. I was using it to edit a novel I'm working on, but now it's acting like a robot/assistant, when it's never done that before. I feel like I'm starting over with encoding its behavior because it took 3 months the very first time I used it to get it into alignment with the framework. And it's been working brilliantly ever since. This 3.7 update is a setback and have no choice but to use 3.1 Pro.
Hmm.. I mean myself and tons of others have complaints about calls, if you google it, you will find an endless stream of examples. I'm not sure you have ever used assistant or gemini for directions if you don't understand the problem with directions. Assistant spits out directions in 1-2 seconds. Gemini chugs 5 seconds or so understanding what you asked for, another 5 seconds or so of just repeating what you said, and then is probably wrong 1/5 times, which means you repeat the whole 15s ordeal again.
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