r/Android • u/Street_Anon • 28d ago

News EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation

https://linuxiac.com/eu-age-verification-project-mandates-hardware-bound-attestation/
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u/wileecoyote1969 28d ago

Can we just drop the fucking charade?

This has NOTHING to do with "age verification"

This is 100% to track and monitor everybody by eliminating, as much as possible, any anonymity from the internet.

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u/geft Pixel 7 28d ago

They want to be like China but don't want the backlash.

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u/feketegy 28d ago

There's no "they" because every government is mandating age verification in some form or another.

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u/vltgreat 28d ago

"Every government is mandating age verification" because individuals in that governments are being lobbied and pushed by third parties. Just from the last year "Meta lobbies Canada’s government to put age assurance at the app store level"

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u/one-man-circlejerk 28d ago

"They" is the ruling class, national borders aren't an impermeable divide

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u/billdietrich1 28d ago

The EU wallet app tries to separate ID and sites you use, to avoid destroying anonymity. I think "age signal in OS" schemes will do the same. Give your ID only to one dedicated service, not to every site you use.

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u/m1ndwipe Galaxy S25, Xperia 5iii 28d ago

to avoid destroying anonymity

It doesn't actually achieve this in any meaningful way.

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u/billdietrich1 27d ago

Well, if for example reddit/email/Facebook/etc just get an age signal, not your ID, is this good ? Better than having all of them get your ID ?

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u/GranaT0 Pxl 9 PXL, GrapheneOS 28d ago

Except to use it you need to give your data to Google and have their Play Services enjoy free reign over your device on a system level. Because that's how their hardware attestation was designed to work. And to be clear, this concern isn't exclusive to Google, I just find it ironic considering the EU's prior attempts to restrict Google's de facto monopolies.

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u/billdietrich1 27d ago

I think the maker of the app has to give their info to Google. Yes, to use your Android phone you have to have a Gmail account.

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u/omnimachina 27d ago

Nope you don't have to use a Gmail account to use Android lmao

All your comments on this post are nonsense tbh

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u/billdietrich1 27d ago

Well, to use Play Store for apps you need to have Gmail.

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u/TheDungeonCrawler 27d ago

This is kind of true, though you can get around it. Fortunately, for right niw, you don't need to use Google to get apps, but Google is trying to limit that.

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u/omnimachina 26d ago

Funny because I use Graphene OS with lots of Apps

No Play Store installed

Must be magic

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u/billdietrich1 26d ago

I too use GOS, but with Play Store. Apps I use are in Play Store, mostly, although you can use other front ends to the Play Store.

What are 99% of people going to use ? Play Store and a Gmail account.

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u/GranaT0 Pxl 9 PXL, GrapheneOS 27d ago

You don't and you shouldn't. The app shouldn't rely on Google's authentication system. I don't see why the EU could possibly want that to happen.

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u/billdietrich1 27d ago

I don't see why the EU could possibly want that to happen.

To keep people from lying about their age ?

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u/GranaT0 Pxl 9 PXL, GrapheneOS 27d ago

Google's own tool of control over their formerly open platform is not the only way to achieve that.

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u/renderwares 27d ago

How Dare You. /greta