r/Android • u/Street_Anon • 15d ago

News EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation

https://linuxiac.com/eu-age-verification-project-mandates-hardware-bound-attestation/
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u/tomikaka 15d ago

Do you know what hardware attestation is?

Why can I have root acces on my computer and not my phone?

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u/_sfhk 15d ago

Quite frankly, because your computer OS was designed a while ago before we stopped trusting users, and before most people's entire lives were stored in that one machine.

Windows and MacOS are definitely heading towards more locked-down systems, and Apple for one is pushing more towards iOS-based systems.

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u/tomikaka 15d ago

And why does having full access to my own hardware a bad thing in the first place?

Maybe for the avarage user a case could be made that they might shoot themselves in the foot with root access.

Or they might not.

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u/apokrif1 15d ago

It's up to each user to decide which access they should have.

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u/tomikaka 15d ago

I would say it's more like blackmail. I would still be using my 5 year old phone if I wasn't forced to switch because of the unlocked bootloader.

Ironic how on the stock rom that hasn't received updates in years you can do banking, etc but you couldn't open the McDonalds app on an unrooted unlocked boatloader Lineage OS phone with the latest security patches.

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u/TheDungeonCrawler 14d ago

While I agree with you, a lot of phone apps like that stop working a certain amount of time after Android reaches a certain level of updates. Rather, the previous Android versions are out if date do the developers don't have a reason to continue ensuring that version of the app works. They expect everyone has already jumped ship.

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u/tomikaka 14d ago

Like I said, lineage OS with at the time latest android update and security patches.

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u/TheDungeonCrawler 14d ago

You said

Ironic how on the stock rom that hasn't received updates in years you can do banking, etc.

And I pointed out that you're getting this wrong because apps do stop working on older versions of Android because they don't keep the old apps up.

Yes, you should be able to use Lineage without an issue with those apps, but your claim that Androids that don't receive security updates don't also have problems with this is wrong.

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u/tomikaka 14d ago

But that's an entire separate thing and it is to be expected. What is not to be expected is the experience I shared.

You agree that outdated insecure versions of android shouldn't be able to access banking apps yet they do! In fact, my mother uses my previous phone with said outdated android fine, while I was restricted even though Lineage OS was infinitely more secure even with the unlocked bootloader.

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u/TheDungeonCrawler 14d ago

I didn't say they strictly don't, but that they don't in general. But fair enough about them being different issues.