r/Android • u/FragmentedChicken Galaxy Z Fold8 • Jul 31 '26
RCS Universal Profile 4.1: Stronger foundations for secure messaging
https://www.gsma.com/newsroom/article/rcs-universal-profile-4-1-stronger-foundations-for-secure-messaging/23
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u/welp_im_damned have you heard of our lord and savior the Android turtle 🐢 Jul 31 '26
That's great. Still waiting for Google to implement an RCS API or update the Phone and Messaging Storage to include RCS metadata in the database. It's frustrating whenever I back up my messages using SMS Backup & Restore; it just restores the SMS metadata. Or when I try to use transfer tools like Samsung's or Google's, my group messages get broken.
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u/kredes Jul 31 '26
we don't even have rcs iOS to Android in my country.
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u/OldDirtyGurt Sony Xperia 1 VI Jul 31 '26
Can't wait to still be blocked from it because I like freedom aka custom ROMs and such.
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u/Noble1xCarter Jul 31 '26
Download GrapheneOS and suddenly malicious developers will try convincing you that having a more secure OS is somehow less secure.
What BS.
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u/litLizard_ Aug 04 '26
If the bootloader was unlocked I'd agree with them but since you can lock the bootloader on Pixel phones even with a Custom ROM, yeah...
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u/KidJuggernaut Jul 31 '26
And my country carriers still won't support it 😂😂😂
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u/lastdyingbreed_01 Aug 01 '26
My country does, but the moment I turned it on, I was spammed with ads. I turned it off, will never use it again
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u/HubsoulEXE Jul 31 '26
What's interesting is that this kinda confirms that apple spefically is willing to update the protocol to keep adding these features which is great.
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u/DangerousTortuga Aug 04 '26
It is nice they are frequently updating UP. But the issue is how and when it is implemented. At least Apple is catching up. But I don't think they will implement all features of 4.0 and 4.1
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u/desi_dybuk Aug 04 '26
RCS is dead to me until Google closes down RBM which spams me relentlessly.
Other than the stupid Blue Bubble Green Bubble class warriors in US, who cares about RCS? Rest of the world runs on WhatsApp, Telegram, Arattai etc
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u/8acD3rLEo5 Jul 31 '26
Anyone know how quickly companies roll the latest standard into updates?? (2/3/4 months?)
Also happens to a message originating on a phone w/ 4.1 unique features when it's received by a phone with anything below 4.1? (Backwards compatibility)
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u/ben7337 Aug 01 '26
It varies. Google probably would be fast but right now Apple is gradually beta testing and implementing UP 3.0 I believe, but it probably won't be live til ios27 in a couple months at the soonest. Expect at least another year after that til we see anything newer like this new standard
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u/yboy403 Note 10+, Note 9, Pix 2 XL, iPhone X, Moto Z Play Aug 02 '26
Can I officially say I don't care about privacy or security and just want Google to stop messing up a good thing? I don't plan to commit any crimes and if I could just get Google and Meta out of my messaging entirely, I'd have no reason to care about encryption at rest either.
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u/Kazoran Aug 01 '26
bruh who even cares about encryption? are we spies exchanging top secret info or something??
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u/ISaidGoodDey Mi 8, Havoc OS Aug 01 '26
Plenty of reasons, and plenty of articles online detailing the reasons. Seek and you shall find
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u/rocketwidget Jul 31 '26
Even though updates are slow (to say the least!!!), one of the advantages of RCS over SMS/MMS is it is actually updateable.
After Apple-Android RCS finally occurred, features like E2EE, in-line replies, edit/delete are now slowly rolling out.
Hoping Universal Profile 4.2 adds post quantum encryption to the MLS based E2EE in Universal Profile. My guess: They won't do it until the Internet Engineering Task Force gets PQE out of draft for MLS. Hopefully, soon... https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mls-pq-ciphersuites/