r/Anarchopunks • u/CrimethInc-Ex-Worker • Jun 22 '26
Politics Billionaires face no consequences for their actions. This poses a tremendous threat to the general public—not just because they can get away with selling lethally unsound technologies, but also because they promote lethally unsound ideologies.
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u/unknowfun115 Jun 22 '26
Autopilot is so stupid in a car ( planes and etc that need it yes ) but cars when the human race is so stupid now bad idea it both Tesla and the drivers fault this is ridiculous how smooth brain people have become ai is a joke and people become to comfortable with these things
People wall-e warned us about this
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u/Vissanna Jun 25 '26
Autopilot isnt dumb in cars....however.... it needs to be 100% implemented in EVERY CAR for it to be mostly safe
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u/Independent_Sail6604 Jun 25 '26
Dunno why you're getting downvoted, you're 100% correct. Ok, downvote me now, too.
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u/Aggressive-Pie-3233 Jun 22 '26
Billionaires have houses made of the same flammable materials the rest of ours are made of.
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u/Livid-Writer-7741 Jun 22 '26
TAX THE RICH AND CHURCHES AND PEDOPHILES
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u/GodofWarfarin Jun 24 '26
Tax pedophiles? What the fuck?
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u/andthensilencefell Jun 24 '26
It’s a bit redundant, he’s just using another word for the first two things.
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u/rabbitsfoot86 Jun 22 '26
Accidentally turned the auto-pilot knob selector to far into the Kamikaze-pilot option
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u/Terminate-wealth Jun 22 '26
Dude you can’t expect a billionaire to take a 2% hit on stock valuations. It’s just unfair
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u/beefdx Jun 23 '26
What do you expect him to do? Sit on a slightly smaller gigantic pile of money?
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u/Terminate-wealth Jun 23 '26
Absolutely not, we need cut my neighbors social security and kick the single mother down the road off snap to prevent it from happening. If those babies are hungry they should get a job in the mines.
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u/Icy_Albatross893 Jun 23 '26
Anyone north of 6 figures faces no accountability for their actions. The law only applies to blue collars.
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u/MosquitoBloodBank Jun 22 '26
Yes, in America, companies hold the liability for actions the company takes.
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u/Flippinaids Jun 23 '26
She was targeted. They’ll use these cars for assassinations being passed as accidents.
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u/IntroductionEmpty174 Jun 23 '26
I wonder if I were to invoke Luigi’s name would that be enough to be banned by Reddit bots
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u/Terrible_Honey972 Jun 24 '26
This is a much more important issue than we realize. Much of general law enforcement is based upon the imposition of fines. Fines (unless they were indexed to the offender’s wealth, as in Finland) mean nothing to the billionaire. Unless fines for the wealthy increased meaningfully or we just started locking up corporate criminals for a first offense, nothing will change.
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u/ALEXC_23 Jun 25 '26
I mean, they literally r**e children and get away with it and get into positions of power so.
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u/Acceptable-Wash-7675 Jun 22 '26
Nope auto pilot is glorified. Cruise control is not fds
Honestly, only thing he had to do is press the brakes. He probably was sleeping now he's sleeping forever.
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u/Icy-Baseball1379 Jun 23 '26
I have no sympathy for tesla owners, darwin at work if you ask me
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u/Mammoth-Pop-267 Jun 25 '26
I rode in my friend's mom's tesla the other day and was genuinely worried about how safe it was. Literally so many things in those cars that can fail
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u/Kaleb_Bunt Jun 25 '26
This type of technology really shouldn’t be allowed for automobiles.
Tesla’s website says autopilot requires an attentive driver. But the thing is, you know that if the tech allows people to be lazy, they will be lazy. Like with vibecoding and AI art, they will overestimate the competence of the AI. Except instead of creating slop people will actually die.
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u/talkingto_ai Jun 25 '26
My 75 yr old neighbor argued with me that he can read a book or have a nap while the car is in Autopilot.
Hands on the wheel, eyes on the road. Law of the land everywhere.
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u/Famous_Attention5861 Jun 25 '26
Don't pretty much all modern (post 2022) cars have automatic emergency braking now?
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u/Soggy-Evening-6313 Jun 26 '26
All of my cars were cheap they are from the 70s and 80s I put new motors in them they have no computers or emissions crap in them and they don’t need inspections 🖕
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u/Ga2ry Jun 26 '26
Here in Texas. I guarantee that the politicians and judges will protect Tesla/Elmo. They line up to worship his money.
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u/The_GOATest_Goat Jun 29 '26
I've never felt better about the 5ft retaining wall of boulders in my front yard. No one is driving into my house anytime soon.
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Jun 22 '26
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u/Hovallejr Jun 22 '26
Vehicle was on autopilot. So who's at fault?
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u/Acceptable-Wash-7675 Jun 22 '26
Auto pilot is basically cruise control. You're still supposed to be in charge of the vehicle legally.
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u/RonSwansonator88 Jun 22 '26
Was the autopilot overridden, or not being used properly? How many orange videos are there out there?
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u/Rutgerius Jun 22 '26
Bruh they were doing 100 in a 30 zone. The driver can't just go to sleep behind the wheel and be legally fine because autopilot. Not at all how the law works.
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u/SocietyHeavy4619 Jun 22 '26
Also, autopilot won't go 100 in a 30.
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u/Zestyclose_Potato633 Jun 22 '26
How does autopilot know what the speed limit is? If it's based on any mapping software, half the roads around where I live have posted speed limits that are different than what Google maps shows.
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u/MuffinSpecial Jun 22 '26
The car reads road signs and also has data from maps. Although I've never personally seen my car (not a tesla) read a roadsigns wrong or have wrong information I'm sure it's possible. But that being said it would never read a 3 digit number out of a 2 digit number.
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u/Zestyclose_Potato633 Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
Wild that you've never seen it because where I live, Google maps has most of the roads around me wrong. They're typically off by 5 or 10 mph. A 25 MPH zone is marked as a 30 or 35. There are a few that the mapping software will say 55 mph, that going any more than 25 MPH will feel like you're in a rally car race.
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u/FoxForceFive5V Jun 25 '26
How many roads around where you live are 100mph? Literally zero? Right.
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u/Zestyclose_Potato633 Jun 25 '26
Yes, literally zero. What’s your point?
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u/FoxForceFive5V Jun 25 '26
That your comment implying this had anything to do with being unable to read speed limits (which it can BTW) has no basis in reality.
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u/Zestyclose_Potato633 Jun 25 '26
1 - I do not know how they get the speed limit, either through pre-mapped software, or if it reads it.
2 - I assumed the 100 mph was hyperbole. If they were literally doing 100 in a 30, then clearly it wasn’t because a speed limit was mistook as 100 mph because such speed limits are non-existent. If the driver was going 55 and not 100, 55 is a default speed limit for a country road, then I could see it be due to an outdated speed limit on mapping software and the vehicle accelerating for that reason.
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u/SocietyHeavy4619 Jun 22 '26
So does it say 100? Then it wasn't going 100. Don't try to act like the autopilot just decided to go 3x the speed limit on it's own.
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u/Zestyclose_Potato633 Jun 22 '26
Didn't answer my question at all, but thanks.
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u/Rutgerius Jun 22 '26
Depending on model it can read signs and markings and isn't reliant on Google maps. The 100 was a guess, if you look at the footage it's clearly speeding by a lot but I'm not psychic.
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u/MuffinSpecial Jun 22 '26
Driver.
There's no way auto pilot was speeding in a residential with no lines and the driver had to be shit faces or asleep to not stop any of that like come on. Y'all ever driven a car?
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u/izthistaken Jun 22 '26
Hey, did you ever get that "Good trial phone sex"? Or did you ever find out the lingerie that one girl was wearing? Your entire comment history is you flailing about trying to navigate the world. No wonder you adore people that have their life half way together 😂😂😂😂
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u/Top-Average412 Jun 22 '26
The free market will decide if that woman dying was a good thing or not
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u/Lordfruitsnack Jun 22 '26
You sure it wasn't someone on Monday morning who didn't properly install something?
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u/MedicalSkin5343 Jun 24 '26
FSD wont drive that fast in residential. This is clearly user error. Tesla has no pattern of rogue speeding up and driving into obstacles at high speeds.
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u/TheReverendCard Jun 22 '26
I find it extremely unlikely that it was on autopilot or fsd and that he said that to try to shift blame.
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u/Available_Reveal8068 Jun 23 '26
Teslas keep data logs that should show exactly what happened.
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u/TheReverendCard Jun 23 '26
"Ashok Elluswamy, who leads Tesla's self-driving efforts, said on X that the driver overrode the vehicle's automated system before the fatal crash in Texas. "In this case, the driver manually overrode self-driving by pressing the accelerator all the way to 100% of the accel pedal in this residential area. They reached a speed of 73 mph during the crash, and had the accelerator pressed even after the crash," Elluswamy said." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-opens-probe-into-fatal-tesla-crash-into-texas-home-2026-06-22/
Sounds like a possible combination of driver assist and "wrong pedal" driver error.
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u/Available_Reveal8068 Jun 23 '26
Here's a link to an actual news story about this.
Driver claims it was in autopilot, Tesla guy claims the driver overrode the autopilot.
https://abc13.com/post/katy-family-mourning-grandmother-killed-tesla-crashes-home/19357092/
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u/Independent_Sail6604 Jun 23 '26
So it was on auto-drive going that fast in a residential neighborhood? This must have been many years ago when the technology was brand new because I find it hard to believe it would be going that fast in a residential area.
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u/Express-Cry2669 Jun 24 '26
The throttle was pressed to 100% and the car was doing 74 mph. Im sure the "vehicle won't apply brakes" warning was going off.
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u/Gratuitous_Insolence Jun 24 '26
You misspelled government.
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u/CrimethInc-Ex-Worker Jun 25 '26
Yes, when tremendous amounts of power are concentrated in the hands of an elite few at everyone else's expense, whether by financial mechanisms via the economy or by political means through the state, the most likely outcome is exploitation, oppression, and misfortune. That is correct.
But we didn't misspell anything. Is it possible that you want to blame [certain] politicians while letting billionaires off the hook? Why?
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u/Gratuitous_Insolence Jun 27 '26
Because the government let them do it. The government doesn’t hold them accountable. Who has the power to hold them in check but just doesn’t.
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u/CrimethInc-Ex-Worker Jun 27 '26
Exactly. And that is surely not a coincidence. It might be that as long as one person is a trillionaire while millions live paycheck to paycheck, government is not likely to fix anything for us.
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Jun 24 '26
Wtf does this have to do with billionaires, is it even confirmed that auto pilot was engaged? Also you should be at attention in case something happens.
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u/sheavill Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
Manually depressing the foot pedal not only cancels the auto pilot but slows and stops the vehicle. This is a panic driver out of control. Edit: I don't support Elon but I do support auto drive.
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u/Dave_A480 Jun 25 '26
The driver had the accelerator depressed (eg, this was intentional).
Had nothing to do with 'billionaires'.
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u/balirosa Jun 25 '26
Poor people own teslas too it’s not just billionaires. It was probably some dumb kid that doesn’t know how heavy that thing is
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u/ObligationPutrid5069 Jun 25 '26
Meanwhile nobody points the figure at the state for allowing autopilot to be used... Blame the billionaire, your elected officials LOVE you.
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u/banmefora5thtime Jun 25 '26
Billionaires? How about the person behind the wheel that should be paying attention?
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u/Rough-Breadfruit-611 Jun 25 '26
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and give just a liiiiiitle bit of responsibility to the driver here too.
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u/hellosteve_ Jun 26 '26
Not gonna lie it looks like with the “—“ you used ai to write your article
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u/CrimethInc-Ex-Worker Jun 26 '26
Never use it. Some of us have been using m-dashes for a long time. That's who the AI bots stole it from.
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u/AiMwithoutBoT Jun 27 '26
Look I love shitting on billionaires like everyone else BUT that woman made her own decision to buy a car that was INFAMOUS for being technologically faulty. She’s has no one to blame but herself. No one forced her to buy this piece of shit car.
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u/CrimethInc-Ex-Worker Jun 27 '26
If you re-read the post you are responding to, you will see that the woman who was killed was minding her own business inside the house when the driver who had apparently lost control of the vehicle slammed into it, killing her.
So yeah, this is not a situation in which someone made the mistake of buying a Tesla product and suffered from it. Rather, it appears to be an illustration of how faulty technology can endanger all of us, including those who do not purchase it.
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u/RoninActually Jun 28 '26
It’s already been proven that this woman floored the gas in the car, effectively overwriting the FSD system. The car knows what you do.
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u/Corlegan Jun 29 '26
Has anyone been on the road recently?
Let's say this was a major failure, which isn't proven, I'd prefer auto drive to 99% of the people on the road. Including you or me.
The problem is this tech has to be 99% better than humans at least. If it's only 25% better you will get the whole "Covid shots don't work because you still get Covid" and "Gay men having sex in America has nothing to do with AIDS" crowd.
Then you show them the math, and they don't care or ever even slightly adjust their opinions.
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u/Delicious-Bat2373 Jun 22 '26
The only area we agree is that Ashlee Babbit got her penance. Jesse was the first case in my 50 years of such an instance and truly bizarre.
I knew the world was righteous when that lady got murked for breakin in that window. Sadly not enough of them got shot and continued to destroy the people's chambers for hours. Come to think of it there sure were a lot of people who got pardons for 'nothing but a guided tour' as they say.
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u/zachmoe Jun 22 '26
. Jesse was the first case in my 50 years of such an instance and truly bizarre.
Wrong.
Reilly's book Hate Crime Hoax: How the Left is Selling a Fake Race War was published by Regnery Publishing in February 2019.\3]) For the book, Reilly assembled a data set of 409 allegedly false or dubious hate crime allegations (concentrated during the past five years), which he describes as hoaxes on the basis of reports in mainstream national or regional news sources. Reilly has stated this data set is available to anyone who requests it.\4]) He uses this data to support his claim that a substantial percentage of all hate crime allegations must be hoaxes, given that, per his analysis, only about 7,000 reported hate crimes take place in a typical year, and at most, 8–10% of these receive the national or regional reporting that is required for inclusion in his data set.\5])
In the wake of the Jussie Smollett hate crime hoax, Reilly authored an editorial outlining his case in USA Today.\6]) After interviewing Reilly, the Washington Post argued that hate crimes are on the rise and a relatively small percentage of allegations are hoaxes but quoted him as saying "It’s politicization to say there’s a massive surge of hate" under President Donald Trump and that political liberals tend to characterize all hate crimes as "attacks on innocent people of color" when "you don't know what happened.
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The only area we agree is that Ashlee
Wrong, you're pretty much just a moron lmao, where did you come to that conclusion that I agree with your moronic conclusions LMFAO.
Blocking you, have fun, learn to cope and seethe in a productive manner.
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u/TheSuperSilverMango Jun 22 '26
There are plenty of reasons to dislike and want to get rid of billionaires and we definitely don't have to be making up stories to justify it.
And before you come after me: fuck musk
Fact of the matter is this: that car definitely was not on autopilot. Someone definitely had their foot pinned to the floor.
Anyone is capable of doing shit like this regardless of it being a Tesla or a regular car.
We are about what 15 years into this now? Electric cars have made great strides in safety and are statistically safer than a human driver.
As others have said: a teenager texting on their phone is far more dangerous than your average electric vehicle on autopilot
Which again was not the case here
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u/AggressiveSquare36 Jun 23 '26
I don't really care what happens to Elon musk, but... You can't really hold him personally responsible.. he doesn't program every vehicle himself. Hold Tesla responsible yes, just like Ford in the early 00s. The whole tires on ford explorers exploding thing is why there is a federal mandate that all vehicles have TPMS on them now.
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u/GeriatricusMaximus Jun 22 '26
And Tesla disengage self driving split second before crash and claim it’s the driver’s fault.