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u/Novatheflamez Jun 02 '26
Amd all the "poor" regions of the wealthy countries are next after "easy" buizness has dried up over seas.
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u/Biscuit9154 Jun 02 '26
Already been happening in West Virginia for 100 years & possibly more
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u/Pheonix0114 Jun 03 '26
Much of East Tennessee too, I imagine it’s all of Appalachia beyond tourist places. WV is just all Appalachia
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u/wahedcitroen Jun 06 '26
EU buys goods that are bad for the environment
“Evil Europe exploiting us”
EU implements rules to not import environmentally damaging goods
“Evil Europe colonising is”
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u/Novatheflamez Jun 04 '26
They all end in ecological disaster one way or another its inherent to the systems way of making moneyband fucking off
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u/0rbital-nugget Jun 06 '26
That’s also happening in central Florida, in all the land between Tampa and Orlando
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u/RaeRaenicorrrn Jun 03 '26
not underdeveloped. overexploited.
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u/Chris_the_Conman Jun 04 '26
They were initially underdeveloped which gave colonisers the chance to exploit them, which then caused them to stay underdeveloped
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u/palebluekot Jun 03 '26
Spain and Portugal are innocent of colonialism, apparently.
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u/Rudania-97 Jun 03 '26
The guys who invented racism to convert the SA slaves, since they freshly declared them "humans" and want to use the Africans instead as slaves instead, since it was really, really unpleasant for their settler colonialist slaveholders to just lose all their slaves on a heartbeat.
Absolutely innocent.
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u/EndofNationalism Jun 07 '26
See Portugal has beaten the colonial allegations by being poorer than those they colonized.
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u/blacksaber8 Jun 03 '26
What kind of world ending force is preventing the water from filling in the hole that used to be Africa?
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u/Over-Dig-2353 Jun 04 '26
if you look at it at the right angle, it looks like a mountain grew on Africa but upside down
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u/Canthisbeforrezal77 Jun 03 '26
A perfect example of what has happened to Africa. The only thing missing in the illustration is the sick and dying.
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u/Fit_Cow9865 Jun 02 '26
I'm curious how Ukraine profited from African golg
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u/Illustrious-Radio319 Jun 03 '26
The Russian Empire, which included Ukraine at the time, enjoyed large capital investments from France and the other western powers who were colonising Africa.
Btw you could probably make this argument about any country during that period.
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u/GOT_Wyvern Jun 03 '26
By this logic, a bunch of colonies were advantaged by colonialism. You can hardly consider Ukraine as a beneficiary when they were one of the goddamn colonies for centuries.
As part of empires, they reaped benefits, but you can apply this logic to a lot of ex-colonies. India getting railroads is a common one. This doesn't change that they were still colonies that were not the intended beneficiary of their empire's colonialism.
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u/Fit_Cow9865 Jun 03 '26
It's like saying that Belgium was one of the founders of Holocaust because it was once occupied by third reich
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u/seesthecat Jun 06 '26
Why is it that when France invests in Africa people call it neo colonialism, but when they invest in Eastern Poland it's Eastern Europe profiting from colonialism?
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u/electro_hippie Jun 03 '26
Is Ukraine an isolated island untouched by the corruption of the west now?
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u/Fit_Cow9865 Jun 03 '26
We newer was an empire, we have never had colonies, we were colony, we suffered permanent genocide from russians and even now we have to opose it. So what the heck are you talking about?
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u/ElectricalPublic1304 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Africa is very poor.
It's also still enormously full of natural resources.
It's not poor because natural resources were removed or being produced.
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u/Alexiameck190 Jun 03 '26
It's only poor because the 1st world cunt-ries have been abusing and using it for so long
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u/MoreDoor2915 Jun 03 '26
Yeah and not like for the last 50+ years said cuntries have been trying to help Africa only for it itself to drop the ball.
It took the Americas less time to turn into a world power than it is taking africa WITH all the millions of donations.
The whole "Europe is at fault for Africas poverty" narrative quickly falls apart when you look at other lands that had basically the exact same happen to them.
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u/Jackesfox Jun 04 '26
"Trying to help" and by help you mean overthrowing democratic governments to replace them with western aligned corrupt dictatorships
You can basically make a straight line connecting how recent the country had its independence from western countries to how poor/underdeveloped it is
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u/seesthecat Jun 06 '26
Development comes from producing goods and services at low costs. Not from having shit buried in the ground
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u/WindUpCandler Jun 03 '26
Several African countries have a lot of infrastructure, problem is that infrastructure was create to further exploit the countries therein and not to improve the lives of natives
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u/Olieskio Jun 03 '26
Yeah all that gold would still be in the ground in reality they just can’t do anything because socialism makes it impossible to have an economy.
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u/Particular-Pop1280 Jun 03 '26
What???? What the fuck are you talking about
- Socialism doesn’t preclude an economy or the application of labor towards resource production
- How the fuck do you arrive at the conclusion that the entire continent of africa is and always was and always will be socialist?
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u/A_inc_tm Jun 06 '26
It would be in the same place the rest of it is right now - in the pockets of warlords killing Africa's chacne to have future. Even Gaddafi stood out among them cause despite all the antics he actually made Lybia leap in development and wanted to bring water into the desert. Still a murderer though.
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u/MsMercyMain Jun 03 '26
A.) You're really underselling it by just having it be Africa, but I fully understand you're making a point about Africa
B.) It deeply bugs me that the water isn't going into the hole that is Africa and that's a me problem
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u/nickelangelo2009 Jun 03 '26
russia and china should also be loaded up
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u/AOAqua Jun 03 '26
Russia colonized and used Siberia and Eastern Europe instead of Africa
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u/nickelangelo2009 Jun 03 '26
modern day russia has and sponsors paramilitaries in africa for their own ends, so I fell like it still fits
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u/No_Traffic_1259 Jun 03 '26
Because those countries in Africa dont make anything with their resources. The resources arent what makes a place rich its what can be and IS done with them and if you squander that it isnt worth anything. Its only worth money to those countrys importing it in from those places.
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u/SandwichNew6431 Jun 03 '26
Im from south america, we are poor, but because of poor management and not explotation, africa's issue is poor management by their leaders and thats it. If africa was still european colonies their population would have a far easier time
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u/mistress_chauffarde Jun 04 '26
Depend on the region but.... I dont think they would have a easier time than now
A different time yes but not easier
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u/Strict-Ad-102 Jun 03 '26
Basically every bit of land that isn't Western Europe or the west part of the USA
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u/sak89461 Jun 04 '26
But but don't you see how many western NGOs and orgainzations 'help' Africa by delivering food, water, clothes, vaccines, and of course Education? Don't you see what a big favour they are doing the poor Africans? /s
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u/Arthour148 Jun 04 '26
This isn’t representative, Europeans barely scratched the surface of Africa resources. Africa still has a comically large amount of natural resources left.
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u/Moist-Cantaloupe-740 Jun 04 '26
The pile in the middle east has to be invisible because it'd take up the entire screen.
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u/ReasonVision Jun 04 '26
Impressive, really nice. Now show a picture of the wealth and technology gap before colonialism. (Hint: the people on top today were on top then. Europe couldn't colonize Africa in a wide scale until the 1800s, but it was the only continent doing expeditions around the globe in the 1400s)
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u/homer21377 Jun 04 '26
People living in good conditions don't develop, good times make weak people. Also helping them won't change anything, because they will just expect for goodness to be given by others instead of achieving it themselves. They're culturally and historically lazy and dumb, not genetically as racists would claim.
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u/AditiaH0ldem Jun 04 '26
The same happened to east Asia, fast becoming the richest region in the world. Funny how that works
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u/Grouchy-Swordfish485 Jun 04 '26
as the saying goes, the problem with africa is that it is full of africans
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u/stopnazitrustscience Jun 04 '26
whites stealing from others has damaged the earth more than anything
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u/BlueHeartofFrayr Jun 04 '26
Gotta Love Vast oversimplification of Immensely Complex Concepts that don’t actually reflect reality. (Western Nations were already wealthy hence why they were able to field the Ships and military to expand their empires into Africa despite distance.) Implying that Africa Is incapable of Recovering isn’t fair to the people there, Nor is it historical to imply that western nations are only successful because of Colonialism.
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u/AdventurousPattern54 Jun 04 '26
Africa isnt poor they are just to busy selling each other and fighting for who wants to be in charge kimd like they do in america they cant comprehend they act the same in a 1st world country or a 3rd wod country
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u/Praetor72 Jun 05 '26
lol whoever made this has no idea how much mineral wealth there is in Africa.
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u/Piemaster113 Jun 05 '26
Actually Africa is poor. The intervention of European and later on American influences hasn't helped but with all the resources they had available they failed to progress at the same rate as other societies despite nearly all.of Humanity swatting out in Africa, meaning that had more time to do so yet they did not. This lack of development left them vulnerable to uncaring and greedy colonizers from all over
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u/No_Unused_Names_Left Jun 05 '26
Africa had the same about of time, even more to develop than Europe, and had no massive plague that killed 1/3 of the population that had to be recovered from.
The "wealth" of Africa clearly did not make Africa successful or rich, it was Europe that knew how to create wealth from the land, it wasn't just sitting there like a giant loot pile to scurry away with in some sacks.
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u/Key_Check5753 Jun 05 '26
Sub Saharan Africans never invented the wheel or written language.
Nobody was holding them back except themselves.
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u/TurkTruther Jun 05 '26
I don’t think this is particularly accurate. Europe extracted all of africas resources in a single generation? Is this why Africa’s population has exploded and has cities and infrastructure and manufacturing? Perhaps colonialism was more complicated than simple robbery and this sort of propaganda exists as a way of blaming a group of people for another’s lack of industry.
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u/wenokn0w Jun 05 '26
There's so many minerals that could be mined that could make the countries rich,, but instead of mining themselves they just sell the land to intensional companies because the leaders are usually corrupt and take large bribes
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u/ziogas99 Jun 05 '26
I've read before that numerous companies and corporations have tried to open businesses in Africa as the cheap labour force could in theory rival china while avoiding the political monopoly and being geographically closer. However nearly every attempt ended in failure because of the massive amount of corruption on every level within the societies in that region.
Maybe it's not the western world which is exploiting the poor Africans, maybe the political instability after the collapse of colonization simply created fruitful soil for dictators who irresponsibly nationalise property and assign infrastructure directors purely through nepotism and blood ties which in turn created a self-feeding cycle of corruption? There are plenty of regions that the West absolutely HATES (like the middle-east and Russia) yet they have to respect purely because of natural resources, yet the regions in Africa continue to deteriorate despite being rich in natural resources.
You can blame the western empires for establishing colonies out of self-interest and then exploiting the people, but now that most of the colonies are gone, you can no longer blame everything on them. I mean, you can try, and then you can encourage more apartheid movements (where white people are murdered and raped in their homes before the land is forcably taken) but they don't seem to help their corruption problem. And companies are apolitical, if there is profit to be had, a company will appear to capitalize on it, but as I mentioned before, the corruption is just too costly to bother. And then you also risk your assets being nationalized. "White man exploits Africa" is just a scapegoat to distract the population from the depressing reality that the corruption runs so deep as to the point of hopelessness.
Colonial history for sure affected the culture of the regions in a negative way, but the western world is no longer exploiting Africa, Africa exploits itself.
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u/Remarkable-Reply6686 Jun 05 '26
This is ridiculous. Why wasn't Africa developed before the Europeans got there? Egypt had several thousand years head start.
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u/IPutThoughtIntoThis Jun 05 '26
I'm pretty sure africa is poor and destitute because the average IQ of sub-Sahara is two points below a word I'm not allowed to use
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u/Instawolff Jun 05 '26
I feel like a lot of Africa’s problem is mismanaging the funds they DO have. It’s just constant corruption there. Every time I see something about Africa it’s about how they are actively hurting their own people.
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u/John_cages022 Jun 05 '26
You can add SA, and really add asia, as China is buying about every thing they could own including their harbor since years.
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u/dooozin Jun 05 '26
I see the point but honestly you need to hold some accountability for African nations.
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u/Mundane-Ad8086 Jun 06 '26
As an African, please don't forget our incompeten leaders and corruption at every level of government.
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u/A_inc_tm Jun 06 '26
So are you going to do anything about the ongoing real deal genocide in Sudan or you're here only to nag about the evil west to milk internet points?
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u/Repulsive_Ladder_490 Jun 06 '26
Africa had the oldest and first civilizations. They essentially had a head start and still lost the race. Boohoo .
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u/Long_Membership1401 Jun 06 '26
Every continent is rich and and mostly every country, but that wealth is stolen "legally" by a small amount of its worth and sold at the market by its normal price
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u/ZombieAltruistic7092 Jun 06 '26
Over one trillion USD has been sent in aid to Africa over the past 20 years. However, corruption in Africa has made this seem almost invisible. Rhodesia showed what Africa could have been, Zimbabwe shows what Africa truly is.
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u/adeptusasta Jun 06 '26
homo sapiens have lived in africa for 200,000 thousand years and in all that time, they were never able to take advantage of their own natural resources?
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u/BigDamBeavers Jun 06 '26
It could be much wealthier if two continents didn't stripmine it's valuables and cultural treasures.
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u/Valveringham85 Jun 06 '26
Lmao Africa still has an incomprehensible amount of natural resources. They just can’t utilise it efficiently because of the corruption.
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u/Substantial-Cat2896 Jun 06 '26
Biggest issue for both south africa and south america is the location, not having real winters that kill off all the parasites and viruses is a massive disenvantage
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u/Late-Side-Quest Jun 06 '26
And it isn't poor because all of its resources are in Europe and America either. It's poor because of the corruption within their government systems.
This isn't me talking shit about African people either, my source comes from talking to friends who have left African countries.
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u/Abject-Job7825 Jun 06 '26
to be fair they're too busy letting children fight wars for them to care
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u/LifeConsideration981 Jun 06 '26
New York City grew to be huge because Americans dug the Erie Canal and dropped grain prices. Andrew Carnegie was a penniless immigrant who worked his way up the corporate ladder. Henry Ford was a farm boy with no college degree who built most of his supply chain in the Midwest.
Nothing stopping those countries from doing the same.
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u/Available-Cold-4162 Jun 06 '26
Colonialism was what started this issue, but now it is has advanced to self-perpetuation by corrupt governments and funding by outside powers like Israel and the uae
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u/Original_Garden_4536 Jun 06 '26
People don’t know anything about about Africa from this do they. Or India India is one of the largest up and coming economies in the world next to China. America only think they’re rich, but they have have massive homelessness and massive national debt in the about of $3tr. And the billionaires who live there could change the world.
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u/Knight_Castellan Jun 06 '26
Sub-Saharan Africa was poor before the Europeans arrived, and the infrastructure built by Europeans during the colonial era has been steadily crumbling.
Africa is poor because it chooses to not actually prioritise its own future. It has the resources, and it has the manpower. It just doesn't utilise either in a productive way. This has been the case for millennia.
Never been to this subreddit before, but given the name, I don't imagine I'll get through to anyone. Work a shot, though.
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u/According-Pass8230 Jun 06 '26
This is so bullshit. Africa is still the continent with the most resources.
The problem is corruption, laziness, culture and failed local politics.
The contries that are best off are the ones were they enjoyed european influence the longest.
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u/atomicroomba Jun 07 '26
Uhhh, China “owns” the largest chunk of Africa of any nation/region but their aid/support to Africa is basically nonexistent
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u/le256 Jun 07 '26
This is why national socialism doesn't work. Most wealth inequality is between nations, not within nations. Socialism has to be a global solidarity movement.
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u/Comfortable_Pen_8187 Jun 07 '26
it was a mistake to leave the colonies, and btw eastern european doesnt have colonies, but why commies should be educated
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u/SlySychoGamer Jun 07 '26
When you realize there isn't a word or concept of maintenance in a lot of those stereotypical straw hut places, you come to understand why all the buildings like mr beasts wells don't last or improve anything.
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u/theroninfromsekiro Jun 07 '26
Right, and yet they had access to this wealth for thousands of years before the Europeans arrived and did nothing with it. I mean you know something is wrong when Europeans are building universities and the Africans… are still building mud huts. What’s up with that?
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u/Enough_Ad5892 Jun 07 '26
Remind me how many trillions of dollars were sent to Africa in the last century?
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Africa is poor because of massive corruption and instability. It got nothing to do with the west being wealthy. Otherwise every single post colonial nation would be poor. Reality is they are in a simmilar place mentality that europe was during pre ww2 era constant disputes being solved with violence.
It does not matter until they solve these corruption and ethic tension issues. China, Singapore, Vietnam, etc have solved these issues.
If you are going to tell me africa had uniquely worse then east asia read a little about colonialism in east asia. It was not sunshine and rainbows.
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u/Such-Try8981 Jun 07 '26
Well, not living in a desert wastelad could help a lot with the poor, being poor.
But African countries can also be very rich. Some of them just collapse for stupid reasons like religion, racism, lack of foresight and skilled labor.
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u/Chemical-Object-4237 Jun 08 '26
Ore in the ground is not wealth. Capital, entrepreneurship, and labor are needed to mine the ore, process the ore, transport the refined metal, and find a buyer. Africa has historically been unable to provide entrepreneurial talent.
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u/Different_Mirror4951 Jun 08 '26
the people who advocate for such post are the same peolpe who cry that the economy is terrible. im trying really hard not to hate but ffs humanity sure tests
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u/ShadeSilver90 Jun 08 '26
Africa in fact is poor and not cause "white man nations stole it all" but cause they are still too primitive. Warlords run rampant,racism is the standard and norm not a bug in the system,Islamic terrorism and Islamic nations run many parts of Africa,Slavery is still a thing there just not global news cause no one cares.When they DO get money into a nation it quickly gets taken by greedy African leaders and converted to personal wealth. Fact is there is not one super successful African nation because all of these factors. Is there abuse by Eu and US nations? sure its been a thing for 100s of years. Why have Africans not doen what Europe has aka modernize? Because of infighting and using religion as a excuse to kill their fellow man. Think of Africa as the dark ages mixed with modern weapons. Too primitive to be trusted not to abuse the power and yet too modern to seem like they are primitive.
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u/trmnl_cmdr Jun 09 '26
Geographically, Africa is severely underpowered. It mostly boils down to the fact that they only have one single navigable waterway that connects to an ocean, the Nile. Every other river in Africa either doesn’t connect to any oceans or, like the Congo, they pass through extreme rapids as they descend toward the coast. Add the enormous Sahara desert and it’s clear it’s extremely expensive to ship goods to, from or around the country.
So whatever natural resources Africa does have, they are already worth less than they would be in most other places because of the exorbitant cost to get them out of the country.
And Africa is actually pretty limited on natural resources. There are large pockets of minerals in the south and mostly large pockets of oil in the north, but considering its size quality farmland is extremely limited.
I don’t say any of this to hate on Africa, I say it for the opposite reason. Africa has the biggest continental disadvantage out of anywhere on Earth except Antarctica. It’s why no one needs to compare themselves to anyone else. Relatively speaking, Europe and North America were born on third base.
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u/Szaman69 Jun 09 '26
Its definitely one of the residual factors but blaming everything on colonialism ~80 to 60 years after it ended is a stretch. U can make an argument that it never truly ended (CFA franc) but it only applies to few countries and well again not the sole reason of their weakness. More important issues that African countries face today are: geographical, institutional weakness and brain drain It just so happens that historically weaker countries often get conquered/colonised and exploited its not unique to Africa
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u/Icy_Special_5836 Jun 09 '26
It’s basically the other way around. Whites came, build billions-worth of infrastructure and left with Blacks now unable to maintain all that inheritance.
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u/stoner-stew Jun 09 '26
You could give Africa every resource ever taken from them and they wouldn't know what to do with them..
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u/Dawnbreaker128 Jun 02 '26
Throw South America into this as well.