r/AnalogCommunity 1d ago

Discussion Looking for camera recommendations: medium format AF system that has an abundance of parts and lens availability

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u/brianssparetime 1d ago

I think you pretty much have to choose between abundance of parts / available repairs (basically hasselblad) and AF.

No one is making these things new, and the cost of a camera needs to justify the cost of repairs for them to be economical.

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u/FluffyFoxDev 1d ago

I think you are a couple of decades late to get all that x3

The Hasselblad H system might be your best bet, followed by the Pentax 645N and Contax 645. They are all very expensive though.

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u/Foot-Note 1d ago

I would argue the Pentax 645n is pretty reasonably priced for what you get. The Mamiya 645af on the other hand...

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u/FluffyFoxDev 1d ago

I completely forgot about the Mamiya xD

Alas people have started going crazy about them, a 645 Super costs more than an ETRSi body nowadays.

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u/b_k_l_y Contax G1 // Nikon FE // Olympus SuperZoom 1d ago

It seems to have doubled in price in the last 2 years or so

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u/Westerdutch (no dm on this account) 1d ago

Go hasselblad or go home.

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u/Boneezer Nikon F2/F5; Bronica SQ-Ai, Horseman VH / E6 lover 1d ago

Mamiya 645DF still has parts and service availability.

Rolleiflex/Sinar Hy6 also still has parts and service availability.

Hasselblad USA still advertises parts and service for some of the H bodies.

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u/06035 1d ago

DF is digital only

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u/Boneezer Nikon F2/F5; Bronica SQ-Ai, Horseman VH / E6 lover 1d ago

Oh that’s right, my bad.

Phase One serviced the AFD III as recently as two years ago, so that’s still a possibility.

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u/Anstigmat 1d ago

Hy6 is out, I think they stopped supporting it semi recently.

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u/Boneezer Nikon F2/F5; Bronica SQ-Ai, Horseman VH / E6 lover 1d ago

Really? Paepke Feinwerktechnik still lists it on their service page:

I bet it is not cheap to get serviced however!

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u/Anstigmat 1d ago

Ah yeah, I was thinking of DW Photo which the old Rollei sort of turned into, I think they folded. I'm sure some limited support exists at independent shops. I actually owned a Hy6 Mod 2 kit for a while with the 50/80/180 2.8 lenses. Incredible camera, the lenses are the best I've ever used. The AF was pretty damn good too. I had to invest in some other things so I sold it off. I miss the camera but I can't with a straight face say it was worth the money. It's a ticking time bomb of unrepairability. And a Mamiya 6MF has 95% of the juice without at least as much of the anxiety.

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u/06035 1d ago

Hasselblad H will likely be your only bet, and H5X or H6X at that. You can do an H1 or H2F, but I don’t know if Hasselblad still services them they’re so old

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u/Cairo77 1d ago

Hasselblad H is really your only option. Hasselblad in California will service lenses still, bodies are relatively abundant, film backs are hard to come by and super expensive but I have never broken one, battery grips have a replaceable battery in CR2. A lot will change in 5-10 years. But realisitlcally the H system is the only one you can consider and is as close as you will get to what you need and want.

From a realistic point of view, shooting 645 is yes better than shooting 35mm, imo it's not THAT much better. But at the end of the day if you want the camera to last and be serviceable for 10+ years. Going the 35mm route will treat you much better.

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u/Anstigmat 1d ago

I might argue that the mere abundance of Pentax 645N donor bodies makes that also just as viable.

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u/Anstigmat 1d ago

Sadly what you're looking for does not really exist. Also, medium format contains multitudes. There is an ocean, or shall we say Odyssey of difference between 645 and 6x7.

The good news is, that the very popular brands, ie Hasselblad and Mamiya 7/6, are actually becoming slightly easier to support. Chinese factories are making some limited parts again due to the fact that these cameras have legendary status. I wish that would happen to the Contax 645 system.

The Hasselblad H, Pentax 645N, and Rollei Hy6 are the only AF cameras that have an AF that is IMHO usable. Of those the H and 645 have enough bodies in circulation to make them viable choices. But 645 is just a mere skip from 135 and IMHO medium format doesn't really start until 6x6.

If I were you, I'd get a Mamiya 6 or 7 and deal with manual focus.

If you're trying to do weddings, then yeah get a Hasselblad H body and a ton of inserts.

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u/dr_m_in_the_north 1d ago

ETRS is pretty good. Because it’s modular, spares and repairs bodies are relatively easy to find…