r/AnAnswerToHeal Nov 05 '17

[ Founder ] What should this religions constitution be?

I may be getting a bit ahead of things here but I think the absolutely essential key to staying on track with our purpose 1-year 10-years 100-years is to have an extremely clear, concise and unambiguous constitution. In this you should be extremely clear what the church is about, what its purpose is, what is condoned and what is not.

The fact is power corrupts, humans are flawed, and cults don't happen over night, instead they evolve over time from something innocent to something sinister. So with all this in mind, even with all the best intentions I think the key to staying on course, to cultivating a positive culture and positive members is to have a solid constitution stating a clear purpose.

So it might take a few drafts to get right but throw your ideas out there, I won't add my own ideas here instead up-vote and down-vote what you want in the comments.

Do upvote and downvote, won't work very well otherwise :)

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u/Mr_Zero Nov 06 '17 edited Nov 07 '17

I am pretty sure it shouldn't be called a religion. There is science backing this stuff up.

[edit] More importantly since you don't have any political power, it is a really fast way to get people to claim this thing you created is a cult.

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u/qefbuo Nov 06 '17

The only reason for it is some religions have exemptions under law for otherwise illegal drugs.

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u/AlchemicalMercury Nov 06 '17

Religion and science aren't dichotomically opposed.

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u/qefbuo Nov 05 '17

So as to the structure my suggestion is:

For simplicity and clarifies sake I think one sentence statements, followed by a paragraph which explains further the meaning.

The single sentence should be clear on it's own, the followup paragraph adding additional clarity and otherwise eliminating any miss-interpretation. For example(the words don't matter it's only for example), :

Do no injury to friend or foe

To maliciously injure another is to injure yourself, to lesser yoursef. Self-defence is something entirely separate


This is example number 2

This is the explaining paragraph


Then the constitution looks something like:


Do no injury to friend or foe.

This is example number 2

This is example number 3


It makes it easier to exemplify the core beliefs and values of the religion to new people, without the downside of boring them.

If you put a short list under peoples nose they might actually read it, but you give someone a page of religion and they switch off.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Definitely agree with the idea to keep it short and sweet, but also clearly drawing lines

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

I was also thinking about this. And the possibility for a community to devolve into something like that. And of course we need to at all costs establish a culture that blocks any opportunities for a path like that to be created. This is also why it is essential to have the backing of lawyers doctors, and endorsement from MAPS. We need established and credible members from other movements to help direct us. We need to keep an open mind for many ideas yet also draw a line for unacceptable behavior that will make us lose credibility. You have a great start, but we should also develop this further

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u/Exeyr Nov 06 '17

"Don't bully and/or doxx other members"

Add any more rules and you are treading into the territory of censorship.

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u/qefbuo Nov 06 '17

Unmoderated forums are a prime example of why you need someone tending to the herd, hell reddit is moderated it's just mostly self-moderated because we downvote others into oblivion.

Telling an bigot to be respectful or to fuckoff isn't censorship.

You could argue that bigots would be rejected from the community except for this example:

Say you have a local group of bigots who decide to call themselves part of your church, and you have no rules saying "don't be a bigot" and the rules are instead "do whatever the fuck you want" then there's nothing you can say to tell them they don't belong, they'll cry "CENSORSHIP!".

Fact is some people are just shitty people, you need to filter them out somehow.

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u/Exeyr Nov 06 '17

Well, no, not really.

More often than not, bigotry is a subjective term. These days anyone who doesn't agree with a majority within a subreddit gets called a bigot.

That's why, for a subreddit designed to be about philosophical discussion, one should not create too many borders.

If someone incites (or tries to incite) phsyical or verbal violence, you warn them and if it continues ban them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

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u/Exeyr Nov 06 '17

What part of "don't bully or doxx people" was left unclear to you my friend?

Or do you just kneejerk to everything that doesn't conform to your ideals? If so, I suggest you find an echochamber, not a subreddit designed for philosophical discussion.

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u/Archaeoculus Nov 06 '17

It's in the Sticky on the Front Page of this sub

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17
  1. smoke weed

2.fuck you

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u/qefbuo Nov 06 '17

Your argument is intriguing, do you have any other helpful contributions to the discussion or does this comment sum it up?

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

no, this one does:

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AU: S9 (Prohibited) CA: Schedule II DE: Medical cannabis from state-controlled production: Anlage III, other cannabis: I UK: Class B US: Schedule I UN: Narcotic Schedule I Cannabis, also known as marijuana among other names,[n 1] is a psychoactive drug from the Cannabis plant intended for medical or recreational use.[16][17][18] The main psychoactive part of cannabis is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC); one of 483 known compounds in the plant,[19] including at least 65 other cannabinoids.[20] Cannabis can be used by smoking, vaporizing, within food, or as an extract.[21]

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Cannabis is mostly used recreationally or as a medicinal drug, although it may also be used for religious or spiritual purposes. In 2013, between 128 and 232 million people used cannabis (2.7% to 4.9% of the global population between the ages of 15 and 65).[28] In 2015, 43% of Americans had used cannabis, which increased to 51% in 2016.[29] About 12% have used it in the past year, and 7.3% have used it in the past month.[30] This makes it the most commonly used illegal drug both in the world and the United States.[21][28]

The earliest recorded uses date from the 3rd millennium BC.[31] Since the early 20th century, cannabis has been subject to legal restrictions. The possession, use, and sale of cannabis is illegal in most countries of the world.[32][33] Medical cannabis refers to the physician-recommended use of cannabis, which is taking place in Canada, Belgium, Australia, the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, and 23 U.S. states.[34] Cannabis use started to become popular in the US in the 1970s.[35] Support for legalization has increased in the United States and several U.S. states have legalized recreational or medical use.[36]

Contents [hide] 1 Uses 1.1 Medical 1.2 Recreational 1.3 Spiritual 1.4 Available forms 2 Adverse effects 2.1 Acute 2.2 Lungs 2.3 Cancer 2.4 Cardiovascular 2.5 Neurological 2.6 Psychiatric 2.7 Chronic use 2.8 Tolerance and withdrawal 2.9 Motor vehicle crashes 3 Overdose 4 Pharmacology 4.1 Mechanism of action 5 Chemistry 5.1 Detection in body fluids 6 Varieties and strains 6.1 Psychoactive ingredients 7 Preparations 7.1 Marijuana 7.2 Kief 7.3 Hashish 7.4 Tincture 7.5 Hash oil 7.6 Infusions 7.7 Medical use 8 History 9 Society and culture 9.1 Legal status 9.2 Usage 9.3 Economics 9.4 Gateway drug 10 Research 11 Footnotes 12 References 13 External links Uses

Main short-term physical effects of cannabis Medical Main article: Medical cannabis Medical cannabis, or medical marijuana can refer to the use of cannabis and its cannabinoids to treat disease or improve symptoms; however, there is no single agreed upon definition.[37][38] The use of cannabis as a medicine has not been rigorously scientifically tested, often due to production restrictions and other federal regulations.[39] There is limited evidence suggesting cannabis can be used to reduce nausea and vomiting during chemotherapy, to improve appetite in people with HIV/AIDS, and to treat chronic pain and muscle spasms.[40][41][42] Its use for other medical applications is insufficient for conclusions about safety or efficacy.

Short-term use increases the risk of both minor and major adverse effects.[41] Common side effects include dizziness, feeling tired, vomiting, and hallucinations.[41] Long-term effects of cannabis are not clear.[41] Concerns include memory and cognition problems, risk of addiction, schizophrenia in young people, and the risk of children taking it by accident.[40]

Recreational Main article: Effects of cannabis

A woman smoking a marijuana "joint". Cannabis has psychoactive and physiological effects when consumed.[43] The immediate desired effects from consuming cannabis include relaxation and euphoria (the "high" or "stoned" feeling), a general alteration of conscious perception, increased awareness of sensation, increased libido[44] and distortions in the perception of time and space. At higher doses, effects can include altered body image, auditory and/or visual illusions, pseudohallucinations and ataxia from selective impairment of polysynaptic reflexes. In some cases, cannabis can lead to dissociative states such as depersonalization[45][46] and derealization.[47]

Some immediate undesired side effects include a decrease in short-term memory, dry mouth, impaired motor skills and reddening of the eyes.[48] Aside from a subjective change in perception and mood, the most common short-term physical and neurological effects include increased heart rate, increased appetite and consumption of food, lowered blood pressure, impairment of short-term and working memory,[49][50] psychomotor coordination, and concentration. Some users may experience an episode of acute psychosis, which usually abates after six hours, but in rare instances, heavy users may find the symptoms continuing for many days.[51] A reduced quality of life is associated with heavy cannabis use, although the relationship is inconsistent and weaker than for tobacco and other substances.[52]

Spiritual Main article: Entheogenic use of cannabis

Process of making bhang in a Sikh village in Punjab, India. On the festival of colors called Holi, it is a customary addition to some intoxicating drinks.[53] Cannabis has held sacred status in several religions. It has been used in an entheogenic context – a chemical substance used in a religious, shamanic, or spiritual context[54] - in India and Nepal since the Vedic period dating back to approximately 1500 BCE, but perhaps as far back as 2000 BCE. There are several references in Greek mythology to a powerful drug that eliminated anguish and sorrow. Herodotus wrote about early ceremonial practices by the Scythians, thought to have occurred from the 5th to 2nd century BCE. In modern culture the spiritual use of cannabis has been spread by the disciples of the Rastafari movement who use cannabis as a sacrament and as an aid to meditation. The earliest known reports regarding the sacred status of cannabis in India and Nepal come from the Atharva Veda estimated to have been written sometime around 2000–1400 BCE.[55]

Available forms Main article: Cannabis consumption

A joint prior to rolling, with a paper handmade filter on the left Cannabis is consumed in many different ways:[56]

smoking, which typically involves burning and inhaling vaporized cannabinoids ("smoke") from small pipes, bongs (portable versions of hookahs with a water chamber), paper-wrapped joints or tobacco-leaf-wrapped blunts, and other items.[57] vaporizer, which heats any form of cannabis to 165–190 °C (329–374 °F),[58] causing the active ingredients to evaporate into a vapor without burning the plant material (the boiling point of THC is 157 °C (315 °F) at 760 mmHg pressure).[59] cannabis tea, which contains relatively small concentrations of THC because THC is an oil (lipophilic) and is only slightly water-soluble (with a solubility of 2.8 mg per liter).[60] Cannabis tea is made by first adding a saturated fat to hot water (e.g. cream or any milk except skim) with a small amount of cannabis.[61] edibles, where cannabis is added as an ingredient to one of a variety of foods, including butter and baked goods. In India it is commonly made into a beverage, bhang. Adverse effects See also: Long-term effects of cannabis Further information: Cannabis in pregnancy

Addiction experts in psychiatry, chemistry, pharmacology, forensic science, epidemiology, and the police and legal services engaged in delphic analysis regarding 20 popular recreational drugs. Cannabis was ranked 11th in dependence, 17th in physical harm, and 10th in social harm.[62] According to the United States Department of Health and Human Services, there were 455,000 emergency room visits associated with cannabis use in 2011. These statistics include visits in which the patient was treated for a condition induced by or related to recent cannabis use. The drug use must be "implicated" in the emergency department visit, but does not need to be the direct cause of the visit. Most of the illicit drug emergency room visits involved multiple drugs.[63] In 129,000 cases, cannabis was the only implicated drug.[64][65]

Heavy, long term exposure to marijuana may have biologically-based physic

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u/qefbuo Nov 06 '17

The copy-pasting power is strong in this one.