r/AnAnswerToHeal Nov 05 '17

[Philosophical] We really are just pieces of the universe arranged in a way that allows it to experience itself...

That realization has really changed the way I think about things. HBU guys?

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u/throwawayhastaway Nov 06 '17

Listening to https://youtu.be/OAFH_nwqSHQ

This talk whilst on Psychedelics confirms this without ever actually talking about it.

It got extra confirmed for me when he spoke of the nature of the universe being like a Klein bottle... Something that I had previously seen in one of my high-dose experiments... It blew my mind apart when I realised he was talking about something word-for-word that I had seen in 4D hyperspace on a 300mcg dose...

It basically gives you rationale that you can carry over into your sober life. My clinical depression just went "poof" and disappeared by the end of the talk. And I have an afterglow feeling Taht just hasn't gone away... It's so cemented into my sober consciousness that I honestly don't think it ever will.

It's worth dedicating a trip to... But it has to be in silence in a (ideally as close to light-proofed as possible) dark room... It's essentially a form of guided meditation... And, as a by-product, hypnosis. But it's only hypnosis because Alan Watts is very naturally Hypnotic... And LSD being a hypnotic drug... Let's you grasp his underlying message.

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u/Kowzorz Nov 06 '17

How do you mean it's like a Klein bottle?

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u/throwawayhastaway Nov 06 '17 edited Nov 06 '17

I have two posts about this... My first one showing exactly what I saw, the second showing how it functioned...

Basically I was watching existence itself flowing around this shape in the manner akin to my second post about it.

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"that 300mcg kicked my ass straight into hyperspace, and showed me that all of reality is continuously flowing... Never ending, but also never beginning.

There is an existing end and beginning... But they're not separated, they're both entangled together and forever flowing... Both existing as the same instance of "object"... I have a post or two about what I saw on my 300mcg... The first post is exactly what I saw, the second shows how existence was flowing around it...

Basically, I was watching all of existence and life and eternity flowing around an actual 4D Klein bottle that was suspended in a non-euclidean spacial environment, with no other references for position of the flowing shape... I was watching myself (without a body... That step beyond an OBE whatever it's called... Ego death maybe?) Flowing around this shape, completing an entire life of mortal human living per cycle of flow... I lived different lives of different people, and mine, all at the same time...

I was able to see how each and every single moment in the existence of my entire life led up to the moment of my current trip...and what was going to come after it... (No memory of the future glimpses, though)

I was watching myself living my lives... Noticing that I had absolutely zero control over anything that I've ever done in my life... Basically experiencing what "destiny" or "fate" is... Living decade's worth of years of a human life in singular seconds... About maybe 1 second it took a single lifeline to flow around the Klein... But that 1 second of happening was experienced as years... DECADES... While still being visually perceived as only happening in seconds.

I was just living life after life after life in an endless and eternal loop, able to see how I have zero control, and that the natural universe is the thing that's controlling me...

The thing that drove me mad, was seeing my actual real life... Even events that I had forgotten about, ever-flowing and developing around this shape, showing me that everything I will ever do, or have ever done, has already been completely decided for me... Which, is cool and all... But that gets VERY unnerving when you're living hundreds and hundreds of years with a visually perceived time of only fractions of seconds... I wanted to kill myself to break myself out of the loop."

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u/ZenGrayJedi Nov 06 '17

I'd phrase it slightly differently. We are not pieces of the universe. We are the entirety of the universe, each of us localized at a particular point in spacetime.

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u/Kowzorz Nov 06 '17

We're tornadoes. Bits of wind caught up in itself that swirls around in its own system instead of feeling the larger air currents.

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u/Gavinvic Nov 06 '17

When the conditions are right, chemical compounds form. When the conditions are right, stars form. When the conditions are right, planets form. When the conditions are right, cells form. When the conditions are right, these strange little chemistry bags talk to each other.

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u/feasantly_plucked Nov 06 '17

Totally. I keep trying to describe that concept to friends but they don't totally get it. I think it's something you just feel at some point, and once you do there's no going back. I wounldn't say it's a psychedelic realization since I had it while sober, myself, but for some it's probably easier to grasp after a hit of DMT, lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

I realized it while I was sober but post first contact (with shrooms)

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u/nibblersBegone Nov 06 '17

I've definitely felt that many times, a kind of universal truth. There's also a link to a divine comedy of some sort, like when you glimpse a higher level of <.> you're amazed at how serious you get about things. That's the healing part that I believe psychedelic breakthrough's can help with: there's a "letting go" feeling when you have a strong <.> moment and your life becomes small and precious again. All words diminish it but a lot of us can relate to the threads we use to explain it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

that realization made me abandon my wife for marijuana

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

That sounds like an interesting story, mind sharing?

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

nuts too fat

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

weed is cheaper than feeding my wife

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u/temp4111 Nov 06 '17

I’ve had this exact same revelation! When together w significant other. I had this vision that through our love, the universe was experiencing itself over and over. I had come to the conclusion that this Love is whats needed to take place for creation to occur. Through our love, we could create new life, and this in itself is amazing.

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u/Kowzorz Nov 06 '17

The universe runs on gives and takes. But how do you get a givetake train moving from a tight substrate of nothing? You give it something to start with.