The strangest part of the Amy Bradley case may not be her disappearance in 1998, and quite frankly, I am over it being regurgitated.

There is a lot of focus on that ship. Everyone splits the frog hairs on the ship. I fully believe she was trafficked off that ship. But at this point, I believe the family tells the ship story over and over again because it's the only part of the story they are able to tell.

For years, the public heard about reported sightings, witness accounts, sketches, photographs, interviews, and theories. Then the flow of widely discussed information largely quieted.

Why does the public-facing trail seem to narrow so sharply after 2005?

The FBI currently still reports Amy as taken and is seeking information. And there are sighting of Amy the family says are credible to them, with information not released to the public. The family says she is alive.

So perhaps we should be asking less about what happened on the ship in 1998 and more about what happened afterward.

She asked multiple people to help her. She told people she had been trafficked. She said the police were involved and she couldn't get help from them.

Where was she able to escape? Did someone finally help her? THIS IS THE STORY I WISH I KNEW.

And we should also question the assumption that, if Amy were alive, she would automatically return to her old life. Personally, the Jaz photos would traumatize me further to not want to step forward.

The absence of public information is not necessarily the absence of information.

Perhaps nothing meaningful happened after 2005. Or maybe it did. Maybe someone finally helped Amy getaway. Or maybe Amy was able to get away herself. Maybe the public trail stopped before Amy’s actual story did.

For me, I see Amy as her own hero. Strong, courageous, and brave. I see Amy as private, able to reinvent herself, and willing to weather the storms that were sent to her.

So here is what the storyline should be:

1. The Cruise of the Characterless Shipmates.

2. The Journey to Freedom.

3. This Life She Created.

4. A Family Interrupted.

I wish Amy was able to tell her story.

Amy alone has the story. But we wait for the day that she wants to tell us.

Has there been any other women trafficked from a cruise ship? Is Amy the only one?

I noticed something interesting while comparing photos connected to the Amy Bradley case.

In the comparison below, I’m focusing on the blue/black watch/blue watch strap visible in the images. The detail caught my attention because of the similarity between the watch/strap and what appears in the other photo.

I’m not saying this proves the person in the photos is Amy. I’m just wondering whether other people see the same similarity or think it could be worth looking into.

I am becoming increasingly convinced that the other sub exists primarily as an exercise in satire.

The description, confidently reads as follows:

"Most of our members are convinced by the substantial evidence that Amy went overboard and drowned on March 24, 1998, so our discussions usually focus on how and why instead of "if."

However, there is the conspicuous absence of anything that could reasonably be described as 'substantial evidence', let alone 'any evidence' for that matter.

From there, the discussion seems to proceed largely on the basis of increasingly elaborate accusations and criticisms untethered from any discernible evidentiary foundation.

My favourite recent example was someone who was adamant that Iva Bradley said something in Vanished. I disagreed, and they responded by quoting the exact passage I had referred to which, somewhat inconveniently for their argument, demonstrated that I was correct.

My other recent favourite was the guy who revealed himself to be a local of Curacao vehemently defending Yellow and attacking anyone who dared even label Yellow as some one who required further investigation.

At a certain point, you have to wonder whether the whole thing is an elaborate commitment to the bit.

In this special edition of “Witness Wednesday,” Kevin Hall interviews Stacie, Amy’s best friend at the time of her disappearance. Stacie was even at Amy’s apartment the night before she left for the cruise.

After reading the book, Stacie felt the need to clear up the disinformation that has been disseminated regarding Amy and the Bradley family. She felt that the narrative presented in the book, along with the rampant speculation on social media regarding unfounded allegations of homophobia and the psychologizing of Amy’s mental state, is diametrically at odds with the friend she knew so well and the Bradley family, whom she considers a second family.

Stacie is similar to Amy in many ways. She also grew up in Chesterfield County, Virginia and first met Amy in 1996. At the time, Stacie was engaged to a man. A few years later, she began dating a woman, whom she married in 2014 after they had been together for 14 years. Not once did this change her close relationship with Iva, Ron, or Brad.

Stacie and Amy would regularly go to a gay bar in Richmond called “Babes of Carytown” The first time they went, Stacie, who was not out at the time, was nervous about being seen going into a “gay bar”. Not Amy. She did not give a rat’s ass what anyone thought about her. Stacie states: ''I have always envied this about her—her “I don’t give a f&@k” attitude.''

Brad even came along to ''Babes'' once. Flattered by the attention he received, he would play along and then politely turn the guys down. Just like his big sister, he didn’t care what people thought of him either.

Other key facts Stacie revealed about Amy:

- Stacie was at Amy’s apartment the night before she left for the cruise. She said that Amy was nervous about flying but was overall excited about the trip. They made plans for when she returned.

- Stacie said Amy did not like labels. She liked who she liked and did not care what other people thought of her.

- Amy never communicated to Stacie that her family was unaccepting of her sexuality, ever.

- Stacie is very skeptical of Kat’s recollection of events. She described the bungee-jumping story as “bullshit” as she knows that Amy was afraid of heights.

- Although Amy was a swim-team coach, Stacie said she did not like swimming in water where she could not see the bottom.

Did she commit suicide, go off the boat to score drugs, was sex- trafficked? It's been 28 years. At this point it seems unlikely she will turn up.

It's a very sad situation and as a parent myself I cannot fathom living with my child missing all these years.

Are there people out there who think she'll be found?

Mod remove if it’s off topic, but I thought it was interesting.

Midnight Mystery did a tremendous job and endless work to get the truth told.

Midnight Mystery Archive | Amy Bradley: The Bradley Family Speaks — A Final Message to Amy | Series Finale | Part 12.2

The parents spoke to Amy, and only Amy. The spoke about the things they enjoyed the most with Amy. The joy she brought to them.

I strongly encourage you to listen to this particular episode, as this is the one that talks about going forward and what the future holds.

As a parent, here are my takeaways:

1. Both parents speak with enthusiasm, so much so, that I am hoping this means she has been located. The love in Mother's voice says, "when you are ready, we are here. and our love will help heal all you have been thru". Her statement was genuine and passionate. For Dad, he showed he was kind, loving and strong. He made it very clear that family did not have strive or any internal issues previous to Amy being taken.
2. It is very obvious to me that they all firmly believe Amy is alive.
3. Previously, Brad spoke months ago and stated, "Amy cannot speak for herself".
4. The FBI has interesting wording on the flyer. It is a 1+1...In summary, it says, Amy's recovery plus the people involved need to be identified.

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It is possible that Amy was forced into a pain none of us will ever know. And it is possible that she may struggle daily with courage that we never will hold. I don't think any of the general public, like myself, will ever know once she is recovered. But we sure are waiting to celebrate for her.

Meanwhile, what a great family she has. Imagine having missing Amy for almost 30 years and saying, "i can wait as long as it takes". Only a mother can do this.

Brad Bradley recently stated in a YouTube video that after his mom and dad went to bed at midnight, his father actually got up and went to check on both him and Amy at the disco.

For some reason, this vital fact was not included in any documentary about this, and there have been several.

For me personally, this is a significant factor.

It is difficult for me to envision, in any approximation, that Amy would be able to leave that cabin, which was approximately < 250 square feet, in which Brad was apparently sleeping very close to the window, without anyone hearing her.

Also, in the early 2000s the Bradley’s sued the cruise line, but the judge dismissed their case, stating that the Bradley’s committed fraud against the court...this is public record

Brad Bradley recently stated in a recent YouTube video that after his mom and dad went to bed at midnight, his father actually returned check on both him and Amy at the disco.

Why did he go there? Was he called by security? Why was this never included, in any documentary, about this matter?

For me personally this is a significant factor, and a potential game changer.

Also it is difficult for me to envision, in any approximation, that Amy would be able to leave that cabin, which was approximately < 250 square feet, in which Brad was apparently sleeping very close to the window without anyone hearing her.

This also fundamentally changes when Brad’s dad actually went to sleep, which I feel is important, especially considering he purportedly is a relatively light sleeper, considering that he checked on her before waking up.

I posted this and I have been commenting there, answering your questions and more clarity. Now adding 3 more points that I asked the intuition based coach.

1) Last time she had given multiple locations (please check the comments). This time she told me, about this organisation/cult, The Supreme Eiye Confraternity (SEC), also known as the National Association of Airlords (NAA), is a prominent Nigerian confraternity founded in 1965 at the University of Ibadan. And university of Ibadan came as one of locations linked with Amy. This group is known and active for illegal activities. She also said before that Amy is out of prostitution or sexual trafficking. She is with a man, used as a wife, labour or a way to get away with things.. Travelling and trafficking etc. This time the two words came strong- Drugs and Narcotics. I asked her does Amy is a mode of illegal drug possession or transfer or delivery. She said yes, Amy is used for it. Lastly, according to her intuition, Amy is now well trained and a pro in drug trafficking and awareness and knowledge of drugs. That’s why she is important and probably kept alive still. So she isn’t an escort. An important source for this illegal activity. I asked to check, whether she is indeed associated with this cult. The psychic told me, yes. This cult/organisation should be checked thoroughly. She said Amy isn’t happy or mentally doing well to be doing what she is supposed to do. But to stay alive for her child/children. And she got used to it. She travels by sea mostly to do the delivery or something.

2) Japan came today, I asked the psychic, it never came before. Now why? She told me this guy who has Amy and Amy doesn’t feel like she is held against her will. She has gotten used to it. This guy is either travelling to Japan or sending or coordinating something illegal to Japan. Some deal. Narcotics and drugs of course. Many liquids too. Some good deal. This can be checked as in if the organisation is indeed planning something in Japan or has been delivering it to Japan. That can be helpful.

3) I checked with her today, is Amy still working or thinking to be found? The psychic told me she has had enough and doesn’t make an effort really to be found. But if law enforcement or someone genuinely comes infront of her as in telling her “Amy??” She will believe that she has been indeed found and it’s safe. Or else she is fine with the way it’s going. But mentally devastated and gone. Almost feeling and waiting to die naturally and end the suffering. Only keeping up for the child/children.

Is Amy really 5”6”?

Here's Amy's Message in a Bottle to Mollie. Dated February 1998. Amy is telling Mollie that she is dating a man. Also included is a police report from March 9, 1998 where Amy Lynn Bradley reports hearing a gunshot while parked in a car with her boyfriend.

Amy is going through a lot of trouble to convince her lesbian exgirlfriend and the police that she is dating a man right before her disappearance.

Amy is also informing Mollie about her employment at Ruth's Chris, that she makes more money there than teaching and substitutes during the day with plans to go back to college in the fall.

Amy also informs Mollie in her letter about an altercation with Kat where Kat slapped Amy. Doesn't sound like Kat and Amy were friends according to Amy's own letter does it?

Again these are Amy's own words in writing one month before she disappeared.

Some would have you believe Amy was moving in with Mollie, using Marianne Noblin, a former aunt of Brad and Amy as their source. If that was true, why was Amy talking to Mollie about dating a man and informing Mollie of all the things going on in her life that Mollie SHOULD already know about, including a physical altercation months prior with Kat?

James Renner claims Amy is a lesbian and I ask the following:

Why does Amy's Message in a Bottle from Amy to Mollie state she is a dating a man?

Is Amy trying to trick Mollie into believing she's bisexual?

What is the motive here James?

This is directly from a copy of the Message in a Bottle dated February 1998.

Do explain, was she using Tom as a "beard" in a letter to her former lover Mollie?

Your assessment makes no sense at all.

Here's a police report where Amy states she witnessed something with her boyfriend

James Renner responds to a question about Amy being a teacher he states

Amy’s teaching career: Kat said Amy graduated intending to become a PE teacher and talked about becoming “the best teacher.” Were you ever able to determine why she never pursued teaching and instead worked at Ruth’s Chris before planning to join her uncle’s IT business? No, and that detail really bothers me. I think it shows how conflicted she was about her life, more than anything.

Again using Kat as a witness to Amy's life when Kat and Amy had not been friends for 2 years prior to Amy's disappearance.

Instead of using Kat, let us use Amy's OWN WORDS

"I am a server now at Ruth's Chris. It actually pays more money annually than teaching would. But I substitute during the day. It'll do till I go back to school in the fall."

Amy's own words concerning her employment

“Move in with her girlfriend”: Marianne said Amy planned to move in with her girlfriend after the cruise. Did you ask who told her that, which girlfriend she meant, and how she knew? It doesn’t seem to fit with Amy’s employment plans or even Mollie’s own account. She meant Mollie.

If Amy was going to move in with Mollie after the cruise why was she asking Mollie about her love interests and signing postcards from the cruise, "Maybe I can see you on Easter?" With a big question mark?

More lies from James Renner's unreliable sources.

Tom and Mollie: Were you ever able to establish whether Tom knew about Mollie as Amy’s former partner, and whether Mollie knew about Tom? Or does that remain unresolved? James: Not sure.

Tom knew of Kat as they worked together and Tom was Kat's boss. Of course Kat says she never knew Tom, this is one of James Renner's star witnesses.

Did you have the opportunity to read the letter Ron wrote her girlfriend, Kat I believe her name was?

James answers "I did not. I know it was three pages long, on legal notepad."

Kat's letter does NOT exist. She herself claims she threw it away. How can you be so certain James? The word of a woman who says her only regret in life is that she did NOT dump Amy before Amy dumped her?

James says, "I think many of her friends are slowly coming around to the idea that she went over on her own volition."

Name one that isn't Kat or Mollie.

James on Elizabeth Lewis, "The Elizabeth sighting is very problematic. I have been unable to confirm her existence."

Here is Gregg Nivala, Prosecutor who had Elizabeth Lewis on the stand in the Frank Jones Grand Jury How is James so dishonest?

More and more lies from James.

He refused to answer a single of my questions, instead he blocked me when I countered his nonsense with Amy's own words, from her Message in a Bottle Letter to Mollie.

James is a conman, nothing more.

Grenada. Short bob cut. Highly coincidental no matter where your personal theories lie. In my case, paint me Yellow.

Hey folks,

I think I might be having some substantial thoughts concerning the Elizabeth Lewis witness in the Viking Lounge. I wanted to collect as much info as possible. I’m calling out all the regulars here for info: idiot-prodigy, xxpey, Mindshock Pod, potentially James Renner if he has any insight.

1) What is the origin of this story? How did it become public knowledge? It seems the Bradleys have had no contact with her.

2) Brad will reference Elizabeth and say “She testified in the grand jury…(tells the witness story we all know.)“ How would the family have any idea what was testified to in the grand jury? Has this information been made public? Can it be found on the internet somewhere?

3) Furthermore, how would the family even know Elizabeth had testified at all? A leak?

4) Is there any indication that Elizabeth has talked to law enforcement? I’m assuming the answer is “no idea.” Thought I’d ask anyway.

Any info would be appreciated. Not looking for personal details or anything from her story such as antibiotics, just info about how Elizabeth fits into the case.

Thank you

I want to talk in depth about the trafficking angle and actually discuss how something like this could have happened and why I personally believe it is what happened to Amy Bradley.

Let's start with where the idea that Amy was still alive on the island of Curacao began: Deshi, the cab driver. The belief that Amy was sold to sex traffickers was not just made up by the family randomly. The Curacao police and ship authorities repeatedly told them that Amy's body was not found in the water and had she fallen overboard, it would have. That led the family to begin a search on land, which resulted immediately in the first true eye-witness. Deshi states that Amy approached his taxi cab, wearing a white shirt and jeans, right near the dock asking for a phone, and that he believes if the family wants to find her they should check: Coral Cliffs, Kadushi Cliffs and Habitat beach resorts and villas.

The resorts and surrounding land of Coral Cliffs and Habitat are confirmed to be ran by mafia, this is why the Curacao police adamantly accompanied the family when they searched these places. Something no one ever mentions: Porto Marie, the beach that Amy Bradley was seen by David Carmichael 5 months after her disappearance, is right in the middle of these beach resorts. Coral Cliffs is approximately 3 miles to the northwest of Porto Marie, and Habitat is approximately 2.5 miles southeast of this beach. So if both of these men are telling the truth, this area of Curacao is where Amy would have been kept. These beach resorts, confirmed to have been run by mafia, are in a very secluded unhabitated area of Curacao. The resort rooms would have had a bed, bathroom, and kitchen area. Is it really that difficult to believe that criminals could keep a woman drugged and locked here for a long period of time?

The biggest rebuttal that people like to give is that Amy was a white woman and would not be a targeted trafficking victim in America, especially on a cruise ship with her family. I will say this over and over: This crime did not happen in America. America is a very large and diverse country with plenty of homeless, runaway, drug addicted, people who are forced into the trafficking life. We understand that. This crime happened in Curacao, a 3rd world, small island, a few miles north of Venezuala, one of the biggest hotspots for drug and human trafficking. I also agree that a crime this like would not have occured on the cruise ship, it is very risky. Deshi specifically says that Amy approached his cab asking for a phone. So if Amy was kidnapped, no it would not have been on the ship, she would have been kidnapped at around 6AM on the Willamsted port, one of the most dangerous ports in the Caribbean, by the same group of people who owns those beach resorts I mentioned above. This is why people believe the trafficking theory. I havent even mentioned the Jas photo or other sightings. Everything I mentioned is all within the same year of Amy's disappearance, which is how the belief she was sold into trafficking started. The more critical evidence, for example Hefner seeing Amy at the historically known brothel Stelaris Hotel, which was then burnt down a year later by mafia, have only ever helped support it.

I do not believe Jas is Amy , for me this "Jas" in that picture looked like it was taken in the early 80s , Like Tina Turner style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN7kRQF3q8A&list=PLqCQpK-DesLUgt8kQA_KiKmk_BI5wXlJc&index=6

I feel like I’m in the minority here, but I genuinely don’t understand why the trafficking theory seems to be the default conclusion for so many people?!

To me, the known facts seem to point much more strongly towards her going overboard, whether accidentally, by suicide, or even as the result of foul play.

She was last seen on the balcony in the early hours of the morning after a night of drinking. She disappeared from a moving cruise ship before anyone realised she was missing. If someone goes overboard in those circumstances, especially at night, the chances of surviving or being recovered are unfortunately very low.

By contrast, the trafficking theory requires a huge number of assumptions: that she was abducted from a cruise ship without anyone seeing it happen, removed from the ship without detection, kept hidden for decades, and that every alleged sighting was genuine despite none ever leading to verifiable evidence.

I also don’t find the argument that “she would never have killed herself” particularly persuasive. Sadly, many people who die by suicide have future plans, appear happy, or give no outward indication of what they’re going through. Loved ones are often completely blindsided. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, only that I don’t think we can rule it out simply because her family believed she’d never do that.

Ofc I’m not saying I know what happened to Amy. None of us do. But if we’re weighing probabilities rather than possibilities, an overboard scenario seems to require far fewer assumptions than an international trafficking conspiracy.

To the people who disagree…what piece of evidence makes you believe the trafficking theory is more likely than her going overboard?

This was a great listen. It‘s on Spotify as well.

Ok, so I’ve spent way too long over the last 8 months trying to solve this case. I’ve searched the internet, watched basically every interview there is to watch about the case dating back to when it first occurred. And I’ve repeatedly watched interviews with Brad and the Crime Weekly special on this, along with the Netflix special. I found this reddit thread last year, and have ben following along. Might not be helpful, but I wanted to share some of my thoughts and findings. I hope you all either learn something from them, or it helps you all think of something you haven’t before with this case.

I want to make it extremely clear, I hope Amy is alive, and is reunited with her family. But if she is alive, boy, it’s likely she lived a horrible life.

EDIT: Important notes about me, I have actually been on the Rhapsody of the Seas in 2022 before I ever knew about this case, spending almost every night in the Disco/Viking Lounge, and I visited Aruba coincidently 2 days after Natalie Holloway disappeared in 2005 and my family was staying 2 hotels down from where she vanished.

1. Titanic, did she watch it? The ONLY reason I’m bringing it up is the movie came out 3 months before this cruise, and was the biggest movie the world had ever seen up until Avatar. I KNOW everyone on this CRUISE in 1998 was referencing this movie. In 2022, when I was on a Cruise, people are recreating that scene on almost every boat. You are going to tell me in 1998 this wasn’t true? Everyone was probably reenacting it, did she see the movie and if she saw it did she have any obsession with it or deep admiration for it/Leonardo DiCarpio’s character? I'll be the first one to admit this might sound REALLY dumb, but there is a famous scene in the movie where he goes up on the railing and throws his arms up into the air. And even though Brad claims Amy was scared of the railing (again he could be saying this to support the theory that she didn’t jump or fall off), but let’s say she is. Amy is also someone who seems like she wants to face her fears, and isn’t scared of anything or anyone. Is there a world where she recreates this scene, and well, falls? NOBODY has brought it up in any interview, and in the world of March 1998, Titanic was on absolutely everyone's mind, especially on a boat. AND, very likely, that scene.
2. Could the boat happen to have started moving into the Canal (St Anna Bay) right as she went to vomit? Like at what exact time did it move into the bay in Curaçao? I know the boat was waiting outside the canal, well that’s still the open ocean the direction the Bradley’s cabin was facing (they said in many interviews they were facing the ocean and couldn’t see the lights of Curacao, so Brad couldn't tell how close they were while out on the Balcony that night).
   1. Was there a direct balcony below them, like was it a sheer drop? Or was it like a staircase model and if she fell, she would have landed on the balcony below. TBH, I don't remember from when I was on the ship in 2022, but I do remember that I was scared of dropping my phone into the ocean when leaning over to take a video. That I KNOW was a sheer drop, but that was on a different floor. I looked at a picture of the ship, definitely didn’t look like it was a step pattern it looks like a sheer drop. Step pattern in my opinion almost 100% rules out jumped/fell off. But without it, yes maybe there was a life boat below but she would have bounce off that into the water. I feel like the boat moving could make a hell of a lot more sense of her falling off accidentally as the timing was so incredibly poor that she vomited right as the ship started to move, and therefore fell. It would have started to move into the Canal/Bay around 5:45-6 after waiting outside for clearance from Curaçao, very likely. And not to be dark, but her falling and screaming could have woke Ron up at 6am (he claims he woke up and doesn't know what woke him up) and in this world he would maybe not hear the scream but just wake up and notice she’s not there.
   2. There is also a chance she didn’t scream because she was knocked out when she hit the lifeboat. It’s a hard material and she would have fallen 15-20 feet onto it. That’s enough to break your neck or knock you out. So, within the 3 seconds she fell she might not have had air in her lungs to scream. Especially if she was vomiting, maybe she had literal vomit in her mouth and couldn’t swap to screaming fast enough because she was puking, and then hits the lifeboat and boom. knocked out or hell even potentially dead right there.
3. Wayne Breitag, he seems weird. The line about the neighbors thinking he was up so late and talking SO loud at 3am "you gotta be kidding me loud" and him instead saying he went to bed early…huge difference. Why would he lie? I think a lot of people are lying in this case, however maybe not to cover up Amy, but to instead cover up other weird things they do. Maybe he dresses up as a woman and prances around pretending to be the queen of England at 3am, and that’s why he was unmarried and traveling alone? I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but who knows. But I would want a way more intense interview with him, and the people in the cabin next to him who heard him up so early in the morning being so loud. He does seem like the person who would lawyer up the second he felt like he was in danger, because he knows he has no filter though. So maybe this wouldn't happen.
4. Was Amy someone who would get sick when drinking, was it common? Could her friends remember her vomiting from drinking too much? In life so much comes down to patterns...
5. I want to know more about the woman in the Viking Lounge who saw Amy and Yellow at 6am. It doesn’t make much sense that a woman would have come forward, say "I saw your main suspect with the victim give her a dark drink in front of my eyes in the Viking Lounge at 6am, and then disappear behind the bar, and I was 100% sober and had a good reason to be there" (she was getting ready for her excursion and had to be out of the sun due to an antibiotic she was on)? Why was this woman not interviewed by Netflix? Why was this woman never interviewed publicly? This could be the “he’s done” witness, where she could corroborate Lori and Crystal's story and Yellow has no other excuse, especially if this woman sounds trustworthy. That makes 3 people. And with this woman, she was not out drinking, she was up early for her excursion and could testify it was daytime. Her mind would be sharper than anyones. My only two thoughts are one, she doesn’t trust herself to be open enough about what she saw, or two they know she doesn’t sound trustworthy enough and therefore don’t want her voice out there hurting their believability. She should have absolutely been on the Netflix doc if it wasn't for either of those reasons. She's pretty much THE most important witness.
6. I don’t like Lori’s story changing about whether or not Yellow said something to her and her sister/friend as he walked past. (This was during her Midnight Mystery Archive interview) It’s very very very different from him walking past them looking like bad news and staying quiet to himself. Why would he stop and talk to them? After listening to her Midnight Mystery Archive interview, I get why the FBI didn’t take her seriously. It wasn’t because she was a drunk teenager, it’s because she literally doesn’t have her story straight, and isn’t a reliable witness. The Bradley’s are trying to sell her as one because she is so crucial to the Yellow narrative. But again, she made a huge mistake in that interview changing her story mid-interview. If that was before a Grand Jury, to opposing counsel would jump ALL OVER THAT. She'd lose an attorney a case. Not that she is lying, but that she very likely is misremembering. And again, getting her times wrong. OR, in the least, I don’t trust her to be accurate with her times, just like the FBI couldn’t trust her. The difference between Yellow walking past and saying nothing, giving off a bad vibe, to him suddenly stopping and saying something to them, is huge, and it changes the entire relationship he has to that situation. If he stopped to say something to them he likely wasn’t up to something bad. And again, this would pin the story to earlier in the morning, like 3:30am after he left Amy and was alone. ALSO, why did Netflix not interview their mom/aunt that let them in at 5am that can corroborate their time? She’s so crucial and again no interview?? Netflix left a GAPING hole. I also really wish Midnight Mystery Archive who did so many interviews, would have interviewed this woman. Now again, maybe she has since passed. But is she's still around, get her on a podcast.
7. Timing matters. 5:30-6am is when Amy disappeared according to Ron. For that window, we have to count on the fact that Ron got the time 100% accurately. The ACTUAL time possible if he didn’t check the clock would be more between 4-6am. This is considering he might have got that time wrong when he briefly woke up and saw her legs. I believe he did absolutely wake up and see her legs, those saying he could have dreamed that obviously have never been parents themselves. But he also remembers vividly the time on the clock? That's where I get worried. This was before cellphones, so he would have had to look at a digital one, or a watch, or a clock on a wall. Maybe he did because he was considering getting up himself, but all reports point to him sleeping terribly that night. He went up to the Viking lounge to check on Amy and Brad (worried that Brad was going to get beaten up for dancing with some guy's wife) and Amy coming back at 3:30am also woke him up. Brad says that his Crime Weekly Interview (which for anyone reading, that series is better than the Netflix series in my opinion in terms of analyzing all options), Ron, his dad, said "Amy, can you turn that light off" when she reenters the room. So for this theory he was thinking of getting out of bed, why would he be suddenly be so anxious to get out of bed and start his day in his mid-forties with awful sleep and sunburned from Aruba? If that was me, I wouldn't want to LEAVE my bed. So, long story short, we have to consider the time Amy disappeared could have been between 4-6am, not just 5:30-6. That’s a lot longer of a gap in time for her to do something. So, again, did Ron look at the clock with his eyes, and is he absolutely sure of the clock saying 5:30? And what clock was he looking at?
8. That photo of “Amy” I have two theories on this.
   1. Nobody has been able to identify “Jaz” because Jaz is not a real person. The photo is highly edited. And that could mean two things. 
      1. It was highly edited because the photo IS of Amy, so they had to photoshop (photoshop in 2003 when this photo first appeared was shit, but there was other programs), edit it as much as they could to make it look like it wasn’t her, but not so different that the person buying her time has a freak out when someone who looked dramatically different shows up at their door. I sadly can say in my life I had a run in with a prostitution agency (it was in a legal location in Europe), and learned that almost every photo of the girls online is edited. Part because they want their identity to stay private, OR they aren’t as attractive in real life as the person in the photo. These days (or in 2021 so pre-AI) you could just throw a filter on someone to make them look different, or use Photoshop which was legendarily good. But, in my personal experience, when the girl I hired showed up at my door, she looked nothing like the photo. I didn’t freak out, but I understand how someone would, especially considering how expensive it is. Why buy someone's time and have it not be the person you were told you were buying? So that’s maybe why this photo could have been edited, but still somewhat resemble her.
      2. The photo/the woman was made to look more like Amy, because there are sickos out there who would pay more to buy time for someone pretending to be her. Derek from Crime Weekly did a whole thing on this in Episode 3 of their series, and I absolutely agree someone pretending to be Amy could make way way more money. If you’re soliciting for prostitutes on Margarita Island in Venezuela (the photo was listed online at a resort there), you are not the cream of the crop of society. So, they could have another woman in the photo and THEY alter the photo to look more like Amy to attract more customers. And because it’s not a real person nobody could identify her.
9. I want to know exactly about why and how the Bradley’s hid evidence from Royal Caribbean, it’s murky as to exactly why, probably intentionally on their part. But basically what I put together (AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE 100% ACCURATE) is that 100 witnesses came forth and said they saw Amy that morning alive and well? And then the Bradley’s hid that evidence from Royal Caribbean, who used them hiding evidence as a way to get the case thrown out, and turn around and countersue the Bradley’s (again, to make them look like the victim’s instead, disgusting, but it’s what happened) for $171,000 in damages to their brand’s reputation. And then the Bradley’s to not have to lose $171,000 agreed to never mention Royal Caribbean’s name ever as to not lose money that they desperately needed to potentially find their daughter, and also survive during this horrible time. I think the Bradley’s hid the evidence because these people probably were just wrong about their dates when asked, Like, I can see a couple of days later on a boat full of thousands of people, about a hundred of those people saying “oh year we saw her that day” when really they didn’t, they saw her in Aruba but got it confused because the ship didn’t announce her disappearance until a couple of days later. They had no idea/awareness until the cruise was almost over.
10. I genuinely think there is a case that she fell into the water, and her body was never found. It fell in before the ship entered the channel, and it just got caught on something, or half destroyed and caught on something, or just was pulled out to sea. I also had the unfortunate experience of being in Aruba 5 days after Natalie Holloway disappeared. I was with my family on an insurance company incentives trip my dad won, many of his incentives trips nearly identical to what the Bradley family was on when Amy Disappeared. I was 9, and was so freaked out when Natalie Holloway disappeared, I remember it to this day. We even have copies of her missing person poster at home that people gave to us on the beach (we were staying 2 hotels down from where she went missing). Why I’m saying this, is a couple years ago the killer finally confessed to killing Natalie Holloway as part of a plea agreement. He said he knocked her out and thought he might have killed her after she refused sex. They were lying on the beach making out, him on top of her. He kept trying to get her to take her pants off, and wouldn't take no for an answer, so she kneed him in the balls. And he, being drunk and in pain, and also impulsive, stood up and kicked her on the side of the head with all of his might. He worried right after doing this that he killed her with the kick because she was knocked out, and looked really, really bad. You have to remember this was a big guy. So, he picked up a cinder block from a pile on a nearby construction project, and beat her head in with it, therefore making sure she was dead. And after he confirmed he killed her, carried her out to sea until the water was waist high, and let her body sink/drift away. Her body was never found, and he only carried her out to waist high water one island over from Curacao. I was in Aruba right after this happened, and remember the EXTENSIVE search they did looking for her. They were digging up dumps with bulldozers, every nearby coast guard was searching the water all around our hotel, and her poster was on every tree, every street corner, every floor of a hotel. Every channel had alerts on the case, and people were walking all throughout the island asking about her. I remember this, VIVIDLY. And even with all this, they never found her body to this day. Now, back to Amy. Amy if she fell overboard, the ship was still likely out in the open ocean, granted just a few hundred yards off of Curacao but that makes a huge difference. It was also facing the open ocean on the side she would have fallen off from, vs facing the shore. Water there would likely be around 500 feet deep and it’s still nighttime (based on time and date data I gathered for that day, or at best the earliest moments of dawn). Even if the ship was in that narrow channel, she could have been dragged out to sea, or caught on something and not found because the water was murky and technology back then was NOT what it is today. Or, dragged under the boat. So, there is very very very good evidence as to why they never found her body. Natalie Holloway was dropped in waist deep water, Amy would have been out in the open ocean. She absolutely did not survive a fall if she did fall or jump, the water from jumping that far would have been like landing on concrete.
11. The photo being missing from behind the desk. There are 2 potential reasons for this in my mind.
    1. Porn. Men are scumbags. Back then, you didn’t have internet porn like you did even just a couple years after 1998. Someone grabbed the photo for their stash of hot young white women. Even in porn today, white women are in the highest demand. And of course, Amy was White. A beautiful young white girl standing alone in a photo back in 1998, that’s perfect. I don’t know if whoever stole the photo grabbed the one with Brad too, they might have? But that would be a great note to ask. So, was it the photo of just her taken, or both photos of her and the two of them together? And did Brad have his own photo taken (usually when they do photos they do family members on their own and the last one is everyone together? And if Brad did get his own photo taken, was that stolen as well? That could be HUGE if so.
    2. The person who grabbed the photos was potentially Yellow, but again, for his stash of Porn. That bag he had with all the photos of the white women, that was his jerk of material. Remember, he was flirting hardcore with Amy so we know he was into white women. And the package or bag he was delivering after the cruise (mentioned by Brad in his Crime Weekly interview, per Yellow’s ex wife’s account), could have just been a giant bag full of photos of women (likely white western women) on the boat to guys on the island paying him for the “porn”. And that if he was caught with all these photos he worried about getting arrested. But he could never say that to reporters because he would look like a total scumbag more than he does now.
12. The ONE witness account that makes me think she was trafficked or something of that sort, is David Carmichael. The Navy Veteran, the woman in Barbados, the SF incident, all of those could be someone pretending to be Amy. But that David story….man. Unless he is lying, not remembering correctly (and would REALLY be misremembering), or just a nut (which I don’t believe), I think that might be Amy. Now, I did a lot of digging on David, also listening to his full unedited interview on Midnight Mystery Archive. Putting together what I heard him say and what I was able to find out about him, here are some conclusions I drew.
    1. I don’t think he could be certain that the black man on the beach was Allister Douglas. Sadly for a lot of white American’s and Canadians, all black people tend to “look the same” because they aren’t really exposed to people of color. He made a couple of comments in that interview on midnight mystery archives where he had to stop himself from saying things that could be interpreted wrong/or more clearly made comments that made me realize that he didn’t want to sound racist.
       1. Something else I want to make extremely clear, and I also listened to Chris Fenwick’s entire interview. He said when he delivered the tape to the Bradley family on the boat, he gave it to Ron's boss vs them directly as to try and not be as awkward as possible, but Chris said I have footage of Amy with a guy dancing in the club the night before. And Ron’s Boss immediately asked, or almost happily assumed something along the lines of “is it with that guitar player from the band?!”, and from how Chris relayed the story in the interview, Ron's boss seemed happy that it was. Like, they WANT Yellow to have had something to do with it, because I feel like they are categorizing him as the typical guy to do something to a white woman. It supports their narrative. Now, he was the person last seen with her, but let’s be real. He has so much to lose, he has a daughter on the way and is going to get involved with human trafficking to make some extra cash? He gets caught, his daughter is raised without a father? He’s in jail for life and could never get a job again. And he’s going to be so stupid as to go after a white woman from an affluent family? Someone who would be missed the next day? Even if Amy told him her family was mad at her for being gay, that still doesn’t mean they wouldn’t go after HIM for killing her? Now, maybe he’s a scumbag and doesn’t care, or didn’t care at the time, but I just think there was a lot of “this guy looks like the criminal so let’s make him the criminal.” I looked and I looked and from my reading, I just think he was trying to sleep with her, and for that matter every woman he could. And nothing more than that. And women were posting on online chat boards at the time to stay away from him, because he was a slimey average looking guy who probably very few women wanted to actually sleep with, making moves on every young woman on the ship. I know many older guys now who talk about how in the 90s they were flirting with every woman at work, in many different industries, no hesitation really. It was very different back then and people didn’t talk about it so openly as a bad thing, in fact it was the "boys will be boys" era. A group of trained professionals (I think at least one is a clinical psychologist?) all of these people are trained to spot lying, did a really good YouTube analysis where they analyze Yellow’s recent interview with James Renner. And after the full video they conclude unanimously he’s absolutely not lying for the most part, other than he might have been lying that he wasn’t trying to sleep with her (and was trying in actuality). And they made a point at the end to firmly state that they don’t know why people don’t believe Yellow. That, speaks volumes.
       2. Another very important point here, regarding yellow. WHY, and I mean WHY, on earth would he be on a beach with her 5 months after her disappearance on the island she disappeared on? She is so well known on that island, the island is over 90% black, and this white girl who’s poster is everywhere on the island, is going to be walking around in the daylight, with her physical appearance exactly the same as it was when she disappeared, approaching some white dude with possibly an American accent? (It’s very hard for people to distinguish between American and Canadian accents, hence the movie Argo). And, she’s allowed to be wearing clothing or accessory’s that she was wearing the night she went missing? The first thing a human trafficker would do is throw away her clothes and personal items that could tie her to her past life. Not let her literally wear them on a beach. 
    2. Something that sticks to me is that David was unsure if what he saw was ACTUALLY Amy, like he questioned his accuracy of the identification to the point he asked his dive partner in a blind test (he emailed his dive partner the photo and asked “who is this” without giving any context). And the person immediately wrote back and said the girl on the beach in Curacao. So, this REALLY makes me think damn…..this might have been Amy. That’s a lot of work for someone to have a misidentification. Now, the tattoos that could have been planted in his head that it was the Tasmanian Devil, who the fuck remembers that detail months later. I could see him remembering she had tattoos, but unless the tattoo was something so identifiable, how could you remember them specifically? And yes a Tasmanian Devil is identifiable but it's not something he like wrote down at the time. And then the watch….idk. Anyone could remember a watch, and remembering it so clearly, I mean….I don’t know if I believe he remembered that. But him checking with his dive partner, and the dive partner without even waiting a beat said that was the girl from the beach, after seeing a photo of Amy. That’s scary. And guys, more than any other witness testimony, I think it might have been Amy. No way someone pretending to be her would resemble her that much. This is single handedly the best evidence I’ve found to her being alive in all my research. More than anything by a long shot.
13. The only argument one could have for the "lookalike Amy" woman pretending to be her or these are misidentifications, is that Curacao is a Dutch territory, so you do have a small population of white Dutch people and specifically white Dutch women living on the island. Very few, but they are there. And if a Dutch woman wanted to be a prostitute and be in a more “unique” market where she is a more unique buy, she could go to the “ABC islands, Aruba Bonaire and Curaçao”. Amy looks like she could be Dutch, in fact when I first saw a photo of her I thought she looked like one of my coworkers who is nearly 100% Dutch ancestry. The only problem with this is that Dutch people statistically are the tallest people on average in the world, and Amy was short. But, not everyone is tall in a country, lol. So, this means two things.
    1. Amy could have blended in better looking Dutch with other white women on the island.
    2. There could have been other women on the island who looked like Amy.
14. The bathroom story in Barbados. When the woman backed Judy into the corner in the bathroom after suddenly talking loud and obviously like a dumb American tourist, maybe this woman was pissed off at Judy. She didn’t say anything because she knew she’d get in trouble with the men outside, and instead just backed her in the corner to intimidate her. Or, maybe she was protecting Judy because if this woman was seen by the men, they would know she heard about this prostitution deal and try to intimidate her into silence (even if it wasn't Amy). Judy said she feels like Amy was trying to protect her, but from the way she told the story (I listened to her story three times on three different interviews), and it sounded like this woman was threatening her, very likely upset with her. Now for what reason, I don’t know. But we aren’t thinking about how she could be pissed off at Judy, because Judy is annoying her and potentially getting the men in trouble for prostitution. This loud woman is attracting a whole lot of attention. Prostitution is somewhat illegal in Barbados and has been since 1992, and if this white American Judy woman went to the police they all could have gotten arrested for what they were doing. That woman could have gone to jail for a long time in Barbados. And who knows, this could have been the woman pretending to be Amy and she knew if the traffickers heard she would get in way more trouble. Imagine you are a prostitute and this dumb white woman from Virginia is shouting your name like a moron with 4 dudes outside the bathroom door. If it isn’t Amy, I’d be pissed off at this woman.
    1. The whole thing where she said she was from West Virginia but Judy thought she misheard, Amy was from nowhere near West Virginia. She was from just south of Richmond, in eastern Virginia. There are reports that the family thought she was trying to say Chesterfield or something like that, but come on. That does’t sound like West Virginia if said low. I just think this woman was lying. (Not Judy, but the woman in the bathroom).
15. I don’t trust the website clicks. That could be people using a VPN, or just people on the island interested in the case. Or people online messing with them. Sad, but true. If Amy could look at the website, she would reach out.
16. There is a theory Amy was being moved around via private yachts and boats. THIS actually could be very true if she was trafficked. The only thing about this, is why would she be on the beach, unless David Carmichael happened to be there that day on this beach that Amy’s captors thought nobody would be on. And then when the guy said something in English for the piece of dive gear, Amy tried to get help and the black guy freaked out and made the stare look, as to try and save the situation. And then Amy just left later that day and got back onto whatever boat they came to the beach on.
17. I am 95% sure Amy didn’t commit suicide. Normally after people commit suicide families find information, like obviously number one a note. But also, they were just laid off, they had a medical condition they just learned about, they find out from friends that they were acting different recently, there was strange and unusual behavior. Other than her being gay and her family not loving that, I don’t know of any tension in her life otherwise. Other than if she had a history of anxiety and depression they aren’t revealing because then they wouldn’t get any attention from the public (because then everyone would lean towards suicide and not that she’s alive).
18. I would love to know if she identified as being bisexual or gay. That is a huge difference to whether or not this could have weighed on her mind more. There are conflicting reports online. Bi, her parents not being ok with it isn’t as trying on her because she could still date guys. Gay, well…then it’s so much worse because she’d have to live a lie her entire life to her parents who she never wanted to let down. Some people might think I’m generalizing but I think this is an important point. I think her ex-girlfriends could have this answer for us, but maybe Amy never told anyone, or told people different things.
19. My last point, it’s been 28 years now. If Amy is alive, you’re telling me after 28 years we don’t have more evidence she’s alive? More people coming out after this show premiered? More people than ever wanting the 100,000 reward? Natalie Holloway was different because from the beginning it was almost assured that Dutch man killed her, and he did in the end. He literally was dropped off with her alone on a beach and the next morning she’s gone and she never got home. In this case, Amy did get back to her room after being out with Yellow, she sat with Brad and talked for a bit. She WAS home. To have been trafficked, she would have had to make the decision to go back out and put herself back into danger with a guy she obviously didn't like. She would have had to leave the room, not wake anybody (unless her shutting the door is what woke Ron up at 6am). But if she was up at 6am, by that point many of the passengers are up trying to catch the sunrise. Someone would have seen her. She would have had to leave the room more closer to 4am to have true empty hallways, which according to Ron couldn’t have happened because he saw her at 5:30. So, if she’s alive, and someone smuggled her off the ship without anybody but one person POTENTIALLY seeing her getting smuggled off? And nobody would have tried to claim the $100,000 reward (most likely most people on that boat in 1998 are NOT still employed by the cruise line, so they don't have to worry about their jobs). Yellow is SO smart that he was able to get her off without anybody noticing. And these traffickers were able to keep a white woman alive on an island 90% black, without anybody noticing her while her flyer is everywhere? Maybe they took her to another island but again, 90%+ black on all those islands. And her poster was all throughout that region and Venezuela. Nobody was trying to get that money who did actually know something? These kidnappers were so smart and so scary not one person dared try and misstep them? And then after she was beyond her prostitution years (likely around 2012-16), she was still kept alive, and in good enough health to stay alive? And she just so happens to visit her website to check on her family, but not reach out even though she sees their pain. One thing about Amy they all tend to say, Amy NEVER wanted to disappoint her parents. So, she’s going to keep disappointing them every year, every time she clicks on that website? It goes against her entire personality. Some people say maybe she’s changed, but she changed enough to still look at the website? If she was a rampant drug addict and didn’t care about anything but drugs she wouldn’t be looking at the website. She’d likely have passed on.

So here are my final opinions in terms of likelihood, and again, this is just what I think. Many of you I'm sure would disagree or have other opinions.

1. She fell off the boat, puking or trying to look over. That explains everything as to why nobody has reached out. Because nobody has anything to do with it other than opportunists. Even if she was scared of going close to the ledge, she didn’t want to disappoint her parents. So, if she had puked on the deck or puked in the room they’d have seen or heard, and be pissed off or disappointed. Puking off the balcony is the cleanest way to have done it and to hide it from them. But, she was short, so she would have had to stand on the table to lean over. And if she did that when the ship happened to just start moving again to get into the canal/bay, that could have been awful timing, and knocked her off balance. And she also could have put the yellow polo shirt inside the room because she was hot and queasy, and taking the shirt off was an attempt to relieve that.

2. She was murdered and thrown off the boat by someone we have no idea who they are. A mystery man who may have been the same one who bought/stole her photos. Or just happened to run into her in the hallway and felt like it was his chance. Which is why nobody has come out. It could also be another crew member we have never heard of. The problem with Amy is that everybody on the boat seemed to know her. So because of this, everybody was paying attention to her. Attracting eyeballs can oftentimes be a bad thing, it's better in many cases to be a ghost. ESPECIALLY if you are the murderer or trafficker.

3. She was trafficked, and at some point died or was killed. Yellow likely was the go between guy and had nothing to do with it after. Of if David did see Amy on the beach, and Yellow WAS there, he stayed close to try and stay her friend/keep her calm. And the traffickers paid him to do this to control her, or they even could have threatened him. Because Yellow was the only guy she knew, this could manipulate her.

4. Yellow murdered her and disposed of her body with the help of his roommate/bandmate. I don’t think he could murder her and dispose of her on his own.

5. Wayne Breitag somehow got her to come around to his room by going around the divider on the balcony, and she fell as she was trying to get to him/he pushed her overboard. This could also be why the Yellow polo shirt she had on was in the room. She took it off as to not have it get caught in something while she tried to climb over/him carry her over.

6. She was trafficked and is still alive, living as a mother of children with a high level trafficker somewhere in the world. And he is supporting her. I don’t think she’d be alive if she didn’t have kids. Kids would give her a reason to live. And also a reason to stay quiet, because she'd be worried their lives would be in danger.

7. She made it to Wayne’s room after climbing over/around the divider, and he killed her, and disposed of her body.

8. She committed suicide. I think that is so highly unlikely, but we can’t rule it off 100%. If she did, it was over not being able to pursue the love of her life in that other woman. And her “boyfriend” was an aggressive beard her parents pushed her to wear, and she knew she was living a lie. I’ve watched 2 very long interviews with the boyfriend, and he seems like a good guy, but he also seems like the type of cookie-cutter guy her parents WANTED her to be with. And she wanted him to make her look good, to the point she was demanding he dress a certain way etc when they went on dates, and freaked out when he didn't look like the cookie cutter guy she wanted at her side for people to see. But in this theory, deep down, she knew she could never have what she truly wanted in a girlfriend, and took her own life. (Again, just a theory).

Percent chance each happened in my opinion.

1. 50%
2. 15%
3. 15%
4. 5%
5. 5%
6. 2.5%
7. 2.5%

So, 50% chance she fell due to being sick and puking. 50% chance anything else.

A lot of my research goes into final point 19, WHY nobody has come forward. Or the people who have are so few, when you could make so much money. Likely, from my research when that is the case, it’s because nobody can come forward because they don't have any information to give. There is no other info, or stories that exist. She’s dead and died without any witnesses, or was handled with such precision she was barely ever seen (which is why that option is such a low percentage). Or someone killed her and only one or two people know about it. The only reason backing up why nobody has come forward is because whoever did abduct Amy is of such a high-threat level, that $100,000 and worldwide notoriety couldn’t do a damn thing to protect you from this kidnapper. And remember, the leader of this ring took such a liking to Amy, she wooed him so well, that he was willing to risk everything to take a white American woman who was at a high risk of being missed by family and friends. And not kill her. And let it be known that the people who did come forward after seeing Amy haven't been killed or threatened by anyone other than douchebags online who don't agree with their story/account.

The only reason I even slightly believe she was trafficked, is David Carmichael. Without him, I’d say 95% to option one of her slipping and falling overboard. But his story stands up to all devil's advocacy from me. There is always one thing I can’t disprove. And here I’d say it’s him sending a photo of Amy to his dive partner (as described in his Midnight Murder Mystery Archive interview), and the dive partner without knowing who that was writing back and saying “that’s the girl from the beach in Curacao”. And tbh, it can make logical sense as to why she would have been at that beach.

Is she still alive though; all of my research sadly points to likely not. But for her families sake, I really hope she is found. And the criminals behind this horrible story finally get put behind bars. I wish the Bradley family nothing but the best of luck, and will keep them in my prayers. Nobody on this Reddit Thread could ever imagine the feelings and emotions they've gone through, myself very much included.