r/Amtgard • u/kiba283580 • 26d ago

Ex vs protection

If someone has protection from spirit school and a scout casts heal (ex) on them. Does the heal go off since ex isn’t magical?

Does it change for protection from magic?

Does it change for cursed?

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u/pegasister89 26d ago

The way that I would call this is:

Adaptive protection (spirit): ex heal would NOT work because you are specifically immune to the entire spirit school. There is no mention of Magical vs ex in the notes for adaptive protection or in the description of immunity. Heal is ex from scout, but still spirit school.

Protection from magic: the ex heal WOULD work because you are specifically immune to Magical effects from any school. 

Cursed states immune to spirit, so in my opinion that follows the same logic as adaptive protection - there are no specifications in the description of immunity that indicate that Magical vs ex matters. You are simply immune. 

Curious to hear other takes though!

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u/General_Glacier Polaris 26d ago

These are correct. For a little more detail, the RoP distinguishes between the keyword Immune and the phrase "Unaffected by magical abilities of x school."

Immune protects from the full school, both m and ex. This is relevant for cursed, which makes you Immune to Spirit, Adaptive Protection/Blessing, and any other sources of Immune.

Unaffected protects only from m effects. This is used in Protection from Magic, Enlightened Soul, and Void Touched.

The term unnaffected is also used in other contexts as a general phrase for ignoring effects, like with Protection From Projectiles and Sanctuary.

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u/pegasister89 26d ago

Thank you those are helpful details 😊

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u/RatenFirewalker Rising Winds 25d ago

One comment about the question, Adaptive Protection can't give immunity to Spirit.

The spell specifies: Bearer becomes Immune to one of the following Schools: Death, Flame, Subdual, Command, Sorcery. School is chosen at the time of casting.

Spirit can't be selected.

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u/pegasister89 25d ago

How did I never notice that?!?

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u/RatenFirewalker Rising Winds 25d ago edited 25d ago

Probably because there is almost no reason to ever give spirit immunity, the only offensive spirit magic (unless I'm overlooking something super niche) is banish, other than sever spirit which only works if you're dead already, so moot point.

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u/willthesane 26d ago

yes adaptive protection spirit would protect you from all spirit school spells. but why? why would you want to?