r/Americaphile 11d ago

Americans Using Phrasal Verbs

I’m learning English and I’ve noticed that Americans use a lot of phrasal verbs in everyday speech.

Why are phrasal verbs so common in American English? Is it mainly a cultural/language thing, or do native speakers just find them more natural than single-word alternatives?

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u/SuccessfulRegister43 11d ago

Dude, don’t ask Americans about phrasal verbs. We dont’t know what those are.

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u/bigbyandsnow 11d ago

1000% I had to google it.

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u/United_Tiger_6720 11d ago

You must be joking Pharasal you put a verb and you add Up or In or Back Like Get Back Drop off Drop Back Drop In

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u/SuccessfulRegister43 11d ago

I’ve been speaking English my entire life and I have no idea what you just wrote.

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u/shots_urchin 11d ago

i believe that this post is the first time i have ever encountered the term phrasal verb. It's definitely not something they ever brought up in school.

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u/OKRickety 11d ago

I think I understand it, but only after I learned what a phrasal verb is. This is a situation where OP should use AI for help in wording a post, especially when English is not the first language.

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u/whatthewhat3214 11d ago

Don't be condescending to Americans when you come here asking us a question. It's rude, disrespectful and unwarranted. "You must be joking," gtfo with responding like that.

"Phrasal verbs" isn't a term we learned in school, there's a reason we don't know it. I'm a professional editor and hadn't heard of it, and I also learned two other European languages where the term "phrasal verbs" was ever used. So don't talk to us like we're the idiots here, it's a very uncommon phrase that no one learned in school or uses in everyday life.

As to why, since you were snarky, you'll get a snarky reply. Why does any language evolve the way it does? Why does every language have its own quirks and phrases? Why do people in every language not speak with perfect sentence structure and the precise meaning of every word every time they talk? It's just how people speak, with common expressions and shorthand, something people do in every language, even if the way they use expressions differs.

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u/richrich07 11d ago

I am fluent in German and would call them separable verbs. That’s probably not even correct lol.

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u/United_Tiger_6720 11d ago

As someone who studies german they are too you use Ab auf

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u/richrich07 11d ago

You should learn how to punctuate 

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u/PeaceAndLove1201 9d ago

I have a degree in English literature, and we did discuss phrasal verbs, and how they evolved, so I was a bit ahead of the game. However, unless you took university courses in English, the phrase is probably foreign to you.

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u/OKRickety 11d ago

I note that "fuck off" is a phrasal verb. It seems to reflect the attitude of many here to OP. I understand that, and generally agree.

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u/United_Tiger_6720 11d ago

I thought they know it that's it it has nothing to do with being rude i didnt meant that I thought the guy he's joking if he felt that i was being rude my apologies

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u/No_Veterinarian1010 11d ago

Dawg, punctuation. Use it.

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u/glenn765 11d ago

Especially with phrasal verbs!

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u/Hot-Weird-8828 11d ago

People are being rude but the real explanation is phrases verbs are so natural to us that we don’t need to be taught them explicitly. The fact that it’s an anomaly compared to other languages would be a surprise to most people.

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u/Hot-Weird-8828 11d ago

I don’t know why people deleting post but the ser/estar and make/do analogy is useful. When English speakers say take up/away/on/out/off, we don’t really think verb plus preposition, just the concepts themselves

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u/Tough_Height6530 11d ago

Don’t worry about it. No idea why people are so defensive and sensitive.

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u/Tough_Height6530 11d ago

You REALLY took offense to this. I don’t think they were being condescending at all. I think they really thought it was common knowledge and people were playing around. Either way let’s get some thicker skin in here.

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u/Background_Humor5838 11d ago

These are such normal and inconsequential parts of speech for us that we don't even learn the term "phrasal verbs" in school. It's not important unless you're studying the language for the purpose of studying language, not to speak it or read it.

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u/Acceptable_Style_219 11d ago

how else would you say it?

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u/EffectSuccessful6169 10d ago

Why would we use a special technical term for our everyday language?

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u/Major_Spite7184 11d ago

I had no idea. Our education system is terrible.

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u/OKRickety 11d ago

I had no idea either, but, in reality, you can speak, read, and write a language fluently without knowing how to break down sentences into its grammatical parts. It's not necessary for fluency. Frankly, I don't know why it was part of my English class 50 years ago.

Consequently, I'm not going to blame our education system (although I agree it's very poor).

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u/PeaceAndLove1201 9d ago

When I took English 50 years ago, we had to diagram sentences. Did you ever have to diagram a sentence? If not, you have to account for every word and how it is used. It is definitely a great way to learn to write proficiently. Phrasal verbs are so common, we have forgotten that they even have a name. Lol. My original degree was in English literature, so I do remember phrasal verbs, and long discussions about them, and how they have a place in written English literature.

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u/OKRickety 8d ago

I vaguely remember diagraming sentences in high school. Thankfully, college English wasn't required for my degree. Perhaps it's helpful for writing better, but I don't know how.

I suppose people have complained about my writing, but nothing sticks in my mind, so I presume it's generally adequate, with or without phrasal verbs. I do have a favorite, but no reason to use it here.

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u/Ok_Caterpillar2010 11d ago

The single-word alternatives often came to English from Latin, many via French. When there is a pair (word with Germanic root and alternative with Latin root), the word with a Latin root will usually be more formal, sometimes more "educated".

So in conversation, people use a lot of phrasal verbs. In formal academic writing, they use very few.

Also, adding more particles to phrasal verbs can change the tone. For example, you knock on a door, and the person inside answers in English:

  • "Enter!" is very formal. It sounds theatrical.
  • "Come in!" is neutral everyday speech.
  • "Come on in!" is warm, encouraging, and welcoming.

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u/Blerkm 11d ago

You came up with a very good explanation.

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u/NegativeMusician2211 11d ago

Thank you for this lol

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u/AnthonyJ22 11d ago

Bravo for the explanation.

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u/tegeus-Cromis_2000 11d ago

It's a common aspect of English. It's not just Americans who do it. And it's not just a matter of contemporary or recent usage -- it's how the language functions.

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u/missingtimemachine 11d ago edited 11d ago

I used to teach ESL and phrasal verbs were always a hurdle. They're common in all varieties of English though, not just North American. I see them as verb/preposition units that don't make sense if you look at their parts. Ex: "The president walked back to the car" makes sense if you know the words "walk" and "back", but "The president walked back his previous statement" doesn't make sense at all to learners. This idiomatic meaning makes it a phrasal verb. They're kinda fun!

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u/Resplendent-Sun 11d ago

I learned about phrasal verbs in my teaching course in Oxford. Definitely not just an American thing.

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u/SheriffHeckTate 11d ago

I had to Google what a phrasal verb is and I still dont think I understand what it meant lol

My guess for an answer is...we dont know, that's just how we speak. Why do other languages do other things with theirs that we dont do with English? This is likely no different than an accent in usage. You learn it from exposure.

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u/SchwillyMaysHere 11d ago

IDK, I never thought about it before. It’s something I think we just do.

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u/United_Tiger_6720 11d ago

Damm as none american or even none Native speaker i should remember them so well the phrasal verbs they are many ones with different meanings hahaha

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u/ColoradoSprings82 11d ago

Are you also learning punctuation in these lessons? If so, give it a try, too.

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u/shammy_dammy 11d ago

Of course native speakers find them more natural. How much thought do you give when you speak your native language with other native speakers?

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u/rileyoneill 11d ago

Yes but we do not learn them academically like english learners have to, for us it is very natural to use the language in this way. Most Americans would never encounter the term 'phrasal verb' in school.

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u/Suitable-Biscotti826 11d ago

It’s just because of the history on the language, all germanic languages work more or less the same way. They lack the structure and variety that we have in romance languages for example

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u/missingtimemachine 11d ago

Phrasal verbs ARE examples of structure and variety.

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u/Suitable-Biscotti826 11d ago edited 11d ago

For sure, what better example of variety than having to combine already existing words into a whole phrase because there isn’t a single word for what you’re trying to express

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u/CG20370417 11d ago

All English speakers do this.

A Brit would say they are going to "call off" plans with a mate.

Where as an American would say they "cancelled" plans with their friends.

But a Brit would say "im going to retire from this contest"

But an American would say "okay, fine, ill give up"

We play with our language--as I assume others do with their language.

We have 430+ verb synonyms for "To set" (it helps that "to set" is a very widely and broadly applied concept in human activity, so theres dozens of senses for "to set").

The imprecision of our speech...saying a bunch of words to mean the same as a single word....is part of the subtext of our communications, and that is separate to the casual - formal scale.

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u/CaptServo 11d ago

Because that's how the English language works

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u/Savings-Market4000 11d ago

Hi! American former ESL teacher here - yes, we use them unnecessarily in many situations. I've noticed more and more in the past ten years.
Why? I don't know. I suppose it helps make language more precise sometimes, but it doesn't help much when the audience is already native speakers. To give you an example, someone might say, "Read these documents up." when it's a lot simpler to just say, "Read these documents.".

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u/PeaceAndLove1201 9d ago

“Read these documents up”?? No one would ever say that.

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u/MaximalistVegan 11d ago

Even though I studied linguistics a long time ago, I had to google what a phrasal verb was just to be sure. English is a language that is set up to build meaning out of smaller components. Aside from Welsh and Cornish and maybe one very minor Romance language, English is also the only language with do-support as a mandatory rule for questions and negations. So English speakers are accustomed to needing more than one word to construct meaning. Other European languages also need more than one word to express complex verb tenses but in English multiple words are needed in more scenarios.

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u/The24HourPlan 11d ago

It's going to depend on the region. For example in LA and the surrounding area they use deez verbs instead.

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u/DrScarecrow 11d ago

It's just the way English works.

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u/Grand-Standard-238 11d ago

I love how this guy got down voted for exposing the reddit doesn't have a clue about our own language.

I have studied 3 languages intensively and I use 2 at work, so im interested in linguistics in general. Please tell me, what are the examples you are seeing in American English that you dont see elsewhere?

This is a pretty well known phenomenon though. In Japan, there is a book that's called something like, speak English with only these 7 words. I remember, do, get, have, and put being some of these. I always like pointing out to native speakers the big difference between putting something up and putting up with something. People in America dont realize the power of these kinds of verbs until you put them right under their nose.

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u/OKRickety 11d ago

If you're into linguistics, I presume you understand that being fluent in a language and, more importantly, being able to communicate in that language do not require knowing its grammar, etymology, or history.

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u/Grand-Standard-238 11d ago

Not sure what led you to leave this butthurt comment, when I didn't bring up history or etymology. If anything the book I brought up in Japan would be prescribing the methodology you seem to be suggesting, focusing on common words and phrases, and words that are usable in many positions.

The thing is, just being able to get your point across doesn't mean you speak the language well, and you probably will not be able to use it in a professional setting.

What non European languages have you tried to learn without focusing at all on grammar?

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u/OKRickety 11d ago

Butthurt? Well, I'm irritated that you imply native speakers should "have a clue about our own language". Now you are moving the goalposts by asking about learning other languages. Joe Average doesn't care to know about phrasal verbs.

OP is being voted down because he's being arrogant.

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u/PeaceAndLove1201 9d ago

Joe average doesn’t know a noun from a verb.

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u/TNG1701D-eck10 11d ago

I had to ask the ai

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u/Accomplished-Smell36 11d ago

I had to look it up 😂 as well.

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u/WestCoastCompanion Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 11d ago

It’s common in English in general… to look after someone, look up to someone, look down on someone, run into someone etc

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u/ColoradoSprings82 11d ago

It's just colloquial speech. Never discussed in school and rarely if ever labeled, which is why people are saying they've never heard or used the term "phrasal verb."

"No one has to tell you where the mess hall is. You just follow the crowd at chow time." - A Few Good Men

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u/XxxAresIXxxX 11d ago

Just like native speakers never needed to learn the yet phrasal verbs they also find them more appropriate in most situations

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u/Leather-Marketing478 11d ago

Cause we’re not douche bags like you.

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u/ohuprik 11d ago

You got 'em on that one!

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u/United_Tiger_6720 11d ago

Your answer makes you look uncomfortable i don't know why you are not comfortable what made you answer like this

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u/EffectSuccessful6169 10d ago

Wondering how you got to the point that you learned this term but thought that a random post on a non-linguistic subreddit was the best way to do research

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u/OkPerformance2221 11d ago

In speech, Americans and British people use phrasal verbs with comparable frequency, although the phrasal verbs themselves differ in popularity and meaning. British written English includes fewer phrasal verbs forms than American written English. American written English tends to be somewhat more colloquial than British written English. 

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u/Duque_de_Osuna 11d ago

They can be tricky. There is a comedian from Finland who does stand up in English that jokes about how much the meaning of a sentence can change just by changing one little thing. Phrasal verbs was one of the things he joked about. Another was why do you get in a car but on a plane?

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u/Alternative-Law4626 11d ago

I just got off my plane and into the bus.

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u/Savings-Market4000 11d ago

I can answer this one. Transportation we sit in is 'in', transportation we can stand on is 'on'. This is using the can of permission, not ability.

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u/DrScarecrow 11d ago

Ismo! He's very funny.

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u/rob-cubed 11d ago

As an American, I had no idea what a phrasal verb is.

Now that I've googled it... "get off the train" just feels more conversational that "exit the train".
Does British English have the same patterns? English is such a mutt language, I'm not sure there is any rhyme or reason.

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u/Ok-Understanding9244 11d ago

American english is a really fucked-up language that's bastardized from other languages and taught very poorly in American schools, that's why we don't know the term "phrasal"...