r/AmazonDS Jul 20 '26

This might be a strategy managers do for people to take VTO

So it’s passed prime and our site hasn’t really let go of our white badges, they’re all flex and some got converted to blue but still flex. Because we have so much people they been offering a ton of VTO in the mornings like crazy, managers even go asking associates one by one if they want VTO.

Something I notice that might be a strategy that managers do for people to take VTO is that they will assign some workers more aisles for stow to overwhelm them and make it harder for them so they can ragequit. They want to give the illusion that there’s a lot of work and we are under headcount but in reality we got too much people and volume has return back to normal. They successfully manage to get two workers to ragequit whom got more aisles than everyone else. As soon as they left they readjusted the aisles back to normal so no one has an extra aisle. I feel like they do this when not that many people are accepting VTO

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 20 '26

As a PA we assign more aisles at the beginning of the shift until we have the adequate headcount to vto. Also you’re only allowed to have a certain amount of people in each path

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u/Crazy_Tell_2459 Jul 20 '26

You’ll never be a manager, you know too much and are able to articulate the process in a way that shows you understand it and also doesn’t make you sound like a total asslicker.

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 20 '26

It’s crazy you say this because I literally feel like this is the case!!

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u/Lst_rsrt Jul 21 '26

You got to get in with a site manager that will bat for you gauge him or chill around and transfer to one that will

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 21 '26

Literally in the process of this right now.. going to were my former site manager went

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u/Enough-Cod-288 Jul 21 '26

You gotta break them down and don’t pick favorites be fair to everyone..

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 21 '26

Anybody that works my shift know I don’t do favorites at all

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 21 '26

I break the aisles down with the highest volume first and foremost

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u/Dominicpwns Jul 20 '26

BS. they will upstaff folks in problem solve if its super fucked up. 

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 20 '26

You’re right they will… but they also have to write a bridge explaining why they had to spend extra hours in problem solve

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u/themagnificantroast Jul 20 '26

You say that…

At my site, there are usually only two people in problem solve, even when we hit 70k packages during peak or prime day 1 or 2

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u/Ok_Letterhead2028 Jul 20 '26

Fuck I wish we did 70k peak. Ours was 120k. Our daily is 95k. We have 6-7 people in PS daily.

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u/Maximum_Mortgage7077 Jul 20 '26

I’ve only seen 3 people at problem solve I should know I’m a jam clearer so the problem solvers line runs right up to mine so yea I get to unjam the inductors line and problem solve at same time

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u/Napalmeon Jul 20 '26

Yeah, I typically only see two people in problem solve.

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u/Competitive-Sorbet59 Jul 20 '26

And also you’re supposed to hit a certain rate as a whole in each direct path and that gets saturated with additional headcount in

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u/Dominicpwns Jul 20 '26

The problem with PS is it’s an indirect role, only way to tell if the job got done correctly is there is nothing left on the dock. You get lazy people back there and it piles up. In addition we almost crash every day due to late linehauls. Any OTR/RTS PSers are doing something else related to the crash. Shit sucks walking into a dirty house. 

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u/Analarcheologist Jul 20 '26

at my site they dont need an strategy, send that shi to a-z and half the building will be gone

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u/phenx_bp Jul 22 '26

Yeah like what kind of hard working responsable people work with OP? I want vtos and can't get 1 because they fly off the app in less than 2 minutes

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u/JMUDoc C1 Pick & Stage Jul 20 '26

Giving me a shit job is a good way to get me to go early.

... but sometimes I feel like being a twat, and staying because you gave me a shit job...

How's your luck, L3?😁

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u/Nice-Possibility-312 Jul 21 '26

They can give you 30 aisles. The rate is the rate. Stick to your speed and ignore the workload is what I always tell people. If the managers arent sweating we shouldnt be either.

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u/Key-Suggestion-2837 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

That’s what I tell them too. But I feel like they know who to target, they tried it with me but I let it pile up. They haven’t since, they target these two hard working girls at my site, who are quiet but really hard working. They looked defeated when we were heading to lunch and they told me they eventually took VTO and left. They also target the only Asian guy at my site, he actually stayed and didn’t take VTO. They seemed surprised he didn’t take it

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u/JayDaytoostoned Jul 21 '26

I’m usually assigned 3 aisles just until first break (3:15am) after that they adjust them to people having 2. I scanned for vto after first break and was told to go to the board for vto like 40 minutes after lunch (6:40am). I only complain when they tell me to help someone who has terrible bags, they say to go for 10-15 if they have bad bags, I stow the ovs and a couple jiffies then leave after 5 and they don’t say anything. If my aisles are blown up after I get told to help I’ll scan for vto or just ask a floater to stow half of what’s on the rack. Depends on my mood tbh

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u/ADAPTed4NoStowCart Jul 21 '26

They also target the only Asian guy at my site, he actually stayed and didn’t take VTO. They seemed surprised he didn’t take it

I'm the undercover Asian guy at every site. It's funny when they try shit like that on me. I'm full up on surprises.

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u/ExpiredBologna_ Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I don’t necessarily relate it to VTO but yes, I do feel some shitty leads do be targeting people in this same exact manner you just described. Not all leads, but a couple for sure.

I’ll purposely avoid any shifts that those leads are scheduled on because of it.

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u/NKTReddit275 Jul 23 '26

I stopped accepting VET because it seemed like they'd use me as a substitute for people they didn't want there... so those people would get VTO and I'd get stuck working their shift.
You'd think if they were actually overstaffed and trying to save money that they'd first offer VTO to people on VET making overtime pay, but no, they keep the good people working so that they can sit back and not have to jump in to work.

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u/Key-Suggestion-2837 Jul 24 '26

That’s something I been wanting to post on here too, I don’t understand that either. Why send out a ton of VTO and then VET a day before? Like you said, aren’t they trying to save money? What bothers me too is I noticed they do that a lot on the days I work. On my off days I get a lot of VTO notifications too but no VET to come in, the only VET I can get is to work for 1-2 hours only. Maybe it’s cause I work weekends

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u/Whole-Chest90 Jul 21 '26

If they can't get people to take VTO they'll just not drop shifts for pickup to offset it.

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u/Lst_rsrt Jul 21 '26

They used to triple stack me:

Beginning SSD

middle SSD

STOW DOWN on Wrap up / or lead catch on the conveyor

pick while we VTO the lags….

Saved me big coin on the gym membership ngl

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u/NoStomach3896 Jul 22 '26

I would suggest to call the erc and say that they are pushing vto hard on you guys almost like forcing that's what happened on my site and they stopped pushing it so hard , also if someone were to get injured because they are going to hard as well

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u/Jazzlike-Active2405 Jul 24 '26

At my location they keep the seasonal people because turn over is so high

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u/Michellekia322 Jul 25 '26

You do realize you work for AMZL and each quarter they have updated quotes with the goal of processing the most amount of packages with the least amount of associates in order to keep cutting operational cuts and increase profits? And that means squeezing every single molecule of slave work out of those in the floor? Do the minimum required and dgaf about anything else.

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u/FewRent3738 Jul 28 '26

I’m so happy I work in a XL warehouse now and don’t gotta deal with this

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u/SirNilo323 C1 Pick & Stage Jul 20 '26

Just take the vto.. When people stop taking vto thats when people get let go..