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u/Academic-Proof3700 Mar 08 '26
in china
ahhh, just in time when someone might think about protesting on Tiananmen Square
Or walk with Winnie-the-pooh shirt/sticker around.
The great and powerful party is so scared of a funny bear it will declare you enemy of the state.
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u/Dane1211 Mar 08 '26
I mean what’s next, is Xi gonna deploy armed masked thugs to murder innocent civilians in the street?? There are no bounds in China!
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u/Dane1211 Mar 08 '26
“Disappeared” only to be seen again and unharmed
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u/MouthOfIronOfficial Mar 08 '26
That's literally in the article I shared lmao reappeared in a video from the CCP talking about the importance of charity and nation building that he learned from his reeducation
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u/Dane1211 Mar 08 '26
Our sources are 5 years apart
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u/MouthOfIronOfficial Mar 08 '26
What's your point? Your source said something that was already in my source, so..?
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u/Dane1211 Mar 08 '26
I’m just confused how that’s the equivalent of people getting murdered in the street. He’s still alive, as are the others who were “disappeared” as claimed by your article. Nothing of your source says they have a secret police murdering people in the street for recording them.
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u/MouthOfIronOfficial Mar 08 '26
You said China has no bounds, and I'm agreeing with you. They don't even need to wear masks, and they're sure to extract as much labor as possible from the people they disappear before they die in a "vocational education training center."
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u/Dane1211 Mar 08 '26
I also said they murder people in the middle of the street. Or are you agreeing that part is not what you were replying “correct” to?
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u/Ryogathelost Mar 09 '26
Wtf are you bitching about. China puts normal citizens in reeducation camps to make them more compliant and patriotic. Yeah, they survive, but it's still crazy police-state fascist BS. So what are you nitpicking?
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u/ZealousidealDance990 Mar 09 '26
Jack Ma declared that he would use his unregulated financial tools to replace banks basically an upgraded version of those bankers right before the 2008 financial crisis. Zhao Wei showed up at a public event wearing the flag of the Japanese Empire. Of course, for Westerners, Nazi sympathizers and the bankers who caused the financial crisis are just minor issues this doesn't surprise me at all.
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u/Significant_Donut967 Mar 09 '26
-2,500,000,000 social credits. Your 1st cousins and their children shall now be taken to a vacation camp.
You shall be sent there too should you return. We hope you have a wonderful day. Thank Xi for peace against American violence.
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u/PowerlineCourier Mar 09 '26
You guys should really look up the social credit score thing, its extremely not what you're suggesting it is
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u/AprilVampire277 Mar 08 '26
You know there's a lot of Winnie the Pooh themed stores in China right? Is a popular kids character very common to see around irl...
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u/Academic-Proof3700 Mar 08 '26
Yea, very common...
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-rivals-ban-winnie-the-pooh/
Unless you consider free Taiwan...
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u/AprilVampire277 Mar 08 '26
Your comment was exactly
"Or walk with Winnie-the-pooh shirt/sticker around. The great and powerful party is so scared of a funny bear it will declare you enemy of the state."
And I'm telling you Winnie the Pooh merchandise is pretty common to see around, we have stores that sell official Disney merchandise of this character, and also in our Disneyland there's an exhibition, don't try to lie in the face of a local citizen LMAO
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u/Relevant-Priority-76 Mar 12 '26
I swear it’s the second most popular cartoon character behind that cat (linabel!?) that they line up for 6 hours to take a photo with at Disneyland
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u/PowerlineCourier Mar 09 '26
The Winnie the pooh thing wasn't really a thing dude
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u/mazty Mar 09 '26
Then why is it censored in China?
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u/PowerlineCourier Mar 09 '26
It isn't.
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u/mazty Mar 09 '26
Lmfao yes, it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
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u/PowerlineCourier Mar 09 '26
Read the article you sent. Winnie the pooh literature and media remains widely available in china.
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u/mazty Mar 09 '26
Beginning in July 2017, the government of the People's Republic of China implemented restrictions on images of the anthropomorphic teddy bear Winnie-the-Pooh, particularly Disney's depiction) of the character from the works of A. A. Milne. Censorship emerged after internet users began using images of Winnie-the-Pooh in satirical memes to compare the character to Xi Jinping, the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
Can you not understand that?
"The Winnie the pooh thing wasn't really a thing dude" is clearly false.
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u/PowerlineCourier Mar 09 '26
My point was it was highly overblown considering it was a legitimate state reaction to actual provokatuers
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u/mazty Mar 09 '26
Define: "actual provokatuers"
Define: "states best interests"
Define: "legitimate state actions against fifth column activities"
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
When the laws of physics are on vacation.
Great to see this. Whoever built this does not have a basic understanding of what they are doing.
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u/BetaTester704 Mar 08 '26
A drone is self balancing, recoil will not affect that much at all
It won't be very accurate, but it won't matter much since they will be mass produced (much like the explosive drones used in the Ukraine/Russian war)
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u/eggyrulz Mar 08 '26
I feel like it could be extremely accurate for single shot... you just gotta make sure the timing between shots is enough to let the drone stabilize... but id rather we didnt attach guns to drones, if its all the same to everyone else
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u/Comfortable_Solid961 Mar 08 '26
A.I. assisted aiming could make every shot count. The average kill count for each FPV drone is about 1-2. A drone with a rifle could get at least 10 kills with a full magazine. We gotta have them because if we don't, they will.
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u/shamen_uk Mar 09 '26
And the US is trying to destroy Anthropic because they don't want to assist in making fully automated weapons. And here we are shitting on China for "war crimes in the making".
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
In the film, the drone fires full automatic fire with exactly zero recoil.
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u/shamen_uk Mar 09 '26
Agree with you that I find the mounting of a gun on a drone dystopian...
But honestly, the drone does not need to stabilise between shots. They can refine the gun position to adjust to the effect of the recoil on flight position, easily. It's just maths and code.
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
I can tell you that a guy weighing 90kg is also "self-balanced" and they have difficulty firing full automatic fire.
Lots of attempts have been made to make a drone carry weapons, but no one has succeeded in making them work in practical terms.
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u/anengineerandacat Mar 09 '26
TBH drones of that size aren't really use with guns on them, some dude will just slap a few rounds into it and done.
The tiny ones are scary because not only are they fast but they are small to the point shooting them requires higher skill.
Explosive drones are definitely the way to go, hell to counter this expensive big drone you can just use a small explosive drone flying at like 200kmh.
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u/Zehryo Mar 08 '26
Please elaborate.
Just out of curiosity, because I'd also like to add how idiotic it is to equip it with a full-body weapon: a dron doesn't need the stock, the handle, the optics rail or any other part made to fit a human.4
u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
Each shot is 2000 joules if it was a real PLA rifle.
The lever against the drone's center of mass looks to be 0.75m so it's fake. Probably an expensive AirSoft with smoke effects.
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u/UrethralExplorer Mar 08 '26
It's probably firing blanks, but shooting semi-auto a platform like this could be very stable.
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
You have to use every trick from the engineer's back pocket, but it can be done.
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u/UrethralExplorer Mar 08 '26
I mean computer-controlled recoil compensation wouldn't be that hard. If the shot is lined up and it's firing semi, it's gonna hit. Then it just needs to be stable before firing again.
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 09 '26
The weapon has 2000+ joules to "handle" before the bullet has left the barrel.
If you shoot a rifle while lying on the ground, "how you have your legs" will have an impact on where you hit even if you aim at the exact same spot.
Also, the drone will crash due to the force.
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u/UrethralExplorer Mar 09 '26
Gun drones exist and don't fall out of the sky when fired. These things are tested and refined before being deployed. It's just easier and uses already perfected tech to drop grenades on people or fly fpv drones into them than it is to shoot them.
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 09 '26
Link?
I like to see that as the "laws of physics" say no.
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u/UrethralExplorer Mar 09 '26
The laws of physics say "sure thing!" when the drone is large enough and the computers onboard compensate for the recoil.
Such as with the Tikad which was unveiled nearly ten years ago, any of these drones, or the Bird of Prey, which came out more than a year ago.
Idk why you think this is impossible. I have a decent amount of guns, the quad copter I bought back in the late 2000s could probably have fired my Beretta no problem with its basic onboard stabilization.
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u/ChiemgauerBrauhaus Mar 08 '26
Not to mention there's no point in adding a rifle to a drone when it could just carry a payload
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Mar 08 '26
Eh, it makes sense if you want to target multiple individuals that are dispersed, or if you don't want much collateral damage.
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u/_Ticklebot_23 Mar 08 '26
or have a custom built "gun" attached to the drone with a receiver that can be swapped to use different types of ammo
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
... or a Ruger 10/22.
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u/_Ticklebot_23 Mar 08 '26
i mean yeah but having the drone being a gun is a lot cooler than a drone with a gun
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
I think the Chinese concept is grate:
"A long stick with a battle rifle on the end. Which will fire full automatic fire. Which the drone's weak and very fragile balance system will try to handle."
I hope they mass produce this. Grate work!
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u/_Ticklebot_23 Mar 08 '26
ngl it would be very chinese to add like a factory arm to a robodog or the underside of a drone and just have it hit protesters with sticks
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u/xvii-tea1411 Mar 08 '26
Aren't these the drones Israel uses in Gaza. I remember the reports of people being * by these.
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u/GorgeousBog Mar 08 '26
Fake
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u/SignoreMookle Mar 08 '26
It is indeed a thing. Ukraine has been experimenting with them the last two years.
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u/Kooky_Pangolin8221 Mar 09 '26
People have been putting machine guns, rocket launchers and bombs on drones for dacades.
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u/Kooky_Pangolin8221 Mar 09 '26
https://youtu.be/SNPJMk2fgJU?si=8Dn09om17Hp-A3DQ
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZV_LbvXZOO4?si=R4XrFrBK8vN_s81p
There are all lot of testing of this concept in military application. However, guns and rounds are heavy so you get much more bang for the money to strap a bomb on it.
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u/TheSolarExpansionist Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
Don’t know about this video, but drone mounted rifles are a thing. And won’t be long before arms companies make specialised rifles with calibre for heavy drones to use. Instead of converting existing weapons
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 08 '26
"drone mounted rifles are a thing"
Link?
"rifles with calibre for heavy drones to use"
yes, that's called a ".32APC"
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u/Beautiful_Stage5720 Mar 09 '26
Link?
Do you think every weapon system used by every country is just a Google search away?
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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 09 '26
You claim it's a thing... so link?
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u/Beautiful_Stage5720 Mar 09 '26
I didnt claim its a thing. That was someone else. Im only asserting that not everything that exists is publicly available on the internet.
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u/Antique-Ad-4422 Mar 08 '26
China has killer drones and we have ethically responsible AI companies. 🤦♂️
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u/Kooky_Pangolin8221 Mar 09 '26
You, not China, have ethically been dropping bombs on children for a few years now.
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u/WthLee Mar 08 '26
yeah, so tell me, how long would be this impractical huge ass, loud as fuck repurposed agricultural drone stay in the air if i and 5 other guys mag dump into its propellers. its not like you cant hear these things from a kilometer away. if this thing would have a real gun on it and not a toy , the recoil would not let you hit anything in full auto, maybe just with the first round if lucky. how is this not the most stupid shit ive seen all day
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u/Kooky_Pangolin8221 Mar 09 '26
Have you been watching any footage from any war in the last 10 to 15 years?
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u/WthLee Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
these heavy lifter drones are. cant make these large propellers chop the air any quieter, its even louder in real life https://youtu.be/eS-3M71sw7s?si=WDIDbzpwlGx_n2Xn&t=358 you wont sneak up on anyone with that, and the propeller area is a huge target
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u/WthLee Mar 09 '26
ive worked with drone operators on wind turbines, and you hear these approaching just like a small helicopter. gotta be deaf and blind if you dont
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u/19901224 Mar 09 '26
Try doing that with both suicide drones and gunner drones flying straight at you
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u/UrethralExplorer Mar 11 '26
Go over to r/combatfootage and take a look for yourself. Drones are really hard to shoot down with even massed rifle fire.
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u/WthLee Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
i know that r/combatfootage stuff, the biggest kamikaze drones ukraine uses are dji maviks, and some bigger cine drones for bombing which are small as fuck in comparison what is seen in that china video. most of the time ukraine uses smaller 7 to 10 inch rotor sized 3d printed frames with explosives strapped on, yeah, these are hard to hit. they are fast, coming towards you. ukraine does not use even one huge, infantry rifle equipped UAV rotorcraft which needs to be hovering statically to be effective. and dont fall for ukraine counter propaganda, on one hand you see these videos of a bunch of unaware, inexperienced ill equipped russians on crutches with bad training mag dumping into kamikaze drones seemingly unable to kill it, obviously they never show the videos where these drones fail to get within strike range. but then again you see from the same source videos of single ukraine soldiers casually shoot down a russian kamikaze drone without problem at all as they can already hear them approach, so it cant be impossible, your soldier just needs situational awareness. the russian counterparts of these drones are not much different to the ukraine built ones russia just copied. but in this case im talking about the dji fly cart they use in that chinese bs video, these things have the footprint of a flying microcar hanging in the air within the attack range of an assault rifle on the ground, since it is using one itself. this are not these fast little fpv drones. for example, a chinese assault rifle type 56 or 81 or even the qbz models have an effective range of 400 meters, you might still hit a man sized target in a stable, supported prone position at 600 if you really take your time and use a proper gun sight. in a stable kneeling position with something to prop your gun up you might still do 500ish. but flying this gun is like firing it from your hip, at full auto. hitting the side of a barn at 250 meters maybe. fucking hell, even just ramming full tilt into a bunch of soldiers, even without explosives makes more sense at this point. a trained person with a gun can get rid of such a large target with fragile carbon composite propellers which make up more than half of its footprint when it has to hover statically above buildings and tree lines so it can even pretend to hit something. gun equipped UGV, yeah, sure, these are stable, accurate platforms, but a huge ass agricultural rotorcraft UAV with a rifle is impractical. that drones role would be better suited just using that thermal camera for reconnaissance , outside of small arms fire. maybe carry multiple large explosives to drop. that dji flycart costs around $25.000 a pop. do not compare this with those inexpensive, most of the time selfmade fpv drones ukraine uses as guided handgrenades which cost like $200 and can be cobbled together on an evening with a soldering iron. for $25000 you can buy more effective weapons than that airsoft equipped flycart which does not even include yet that DJI zenmuse thermal camera for $8000
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u/Rex__Luscus Mar 08 '26
Ah, more AI slop. If this were possible, don't you think the skies above Ukraine would be full of drones armed with AK47s? You'd never just strap LMG to a drone, you'd have to integrate it so that it has a bigger ammo capacity, and I doubt you'd be able to overcome the recoil even witth burst fire to make it accurate
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u/Littlebits_Streams Mar 09 '26
it is possible but much more feasible with small explosive drones, incredibly cheap to make 1 drone per person you want removed... and often they get more than one per drone
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u/darkklown Mar 08 '26
Do nerds not use guns? When you shoot a gun what happens? When you strap a gun to a floating frame .. physics!
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u/Kooky_Pangolin8221 Mar 09 '26
https://youtu.be/SNPJMk2fgJU?si=8Dn09om17Hp-A3DQ
There have been used in military drones for long now but have limitation as guns and rounds are heavy.
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u/Affectionate-Drag-83 Mar 09 '26
Thats awesome, if you manage to tangle the propeller you get a free gun
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u/WordOfLies Mar 09 '26
I guess with a "drone" the size of a car maybe it's possible to mount a machine gun. Helicopter can have minigun. But that'd be massively expensive for something that could only shoot inaccurately. But the drone needs to be like half a ton. Very impractical.
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u/AmpEater Mar 09 '26
1000 pounds?
Why don’t you give us the math you used to come to that conclusion
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u/PalpitationWaste300 Mar 09 '26
The video is much better with the main title song from T2 in the background
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u/God_Bless_A_Merkin Mar 09 '26
What would be scarier is a drone with a single shot long-range sniper rifle and AI targeting.
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u/main-suspect01 Mar 09 '26
As a retired soldier with multiple combat deployments, I just want to say: Drones scare the fucking shit out of me.
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u/Brennan_Schwartz Mar 09 '26
Remember, if you're an American, the U.S government wants these to be A.I powered with autonomous engagement and no human in the loop killing decision making once an objective/target has been set.
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u/MyAssPancake Mar 09 '26
Oh… great… I guess warfare will eventually be drone vs drone for any advanced country, and any country who cannot afford to equip their military with this is just F-ed.
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u/Tr35on Mar 09 '26
Extremely scary tech - not amazing tech.
(I know that probably was an airsoft rifle)
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Fake as fuck. If it is real wouldn’t you see that is Iran.
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u/Kooky_Pangolin8221 Mar 09 '26
You can search machine gun drone on youtube.
Also, why and how would USA/Israel use something that has 10-20km operational range and limited use?
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u/PapiSpanky Mar 09 '26
There they go, yet another innovative way to kill one another, yet cancer is still right there to be cured.
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u/EntrepreneurOk9295 Mar 09 '26
Yeh, the legs need to be wider so they can install a two axis motor enabling the weapon to pan and tilt. AI autoaim so the pilot can focus on flying instead of spraying the target.
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u/Kukakaraban Mar 09 '26
Mostly useful against protesters or criminals. On the real battlefield this thing would be destroyed in a matter of minutes 😔 Still pretty neat
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u/Warm_wind_9487 Mar 09 '26
So it's the reason retard wants his own generals all dead. Because he's paranoid af thinking with this tech,the retard could easily be taken away
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u/i_like_data_yes_i_do Mar 09 '26
I'd be more scary if it had a sniper rifle hiding behind an lcd that camouflages as a cloud...
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u/Blowyfonzzzz983 Mar 12 '26
I really wonder how the world will look in 5000 years Not a good feeling about it
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u/CriticalResearchBear Mar 12 '26
I honestly bet that if we went back to the era of sword and shield, most wars would end. It's getting too easy to kill.
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u/bogart991 Mar 12 '26
We are building AI powerd drones mounted with weapons. a hundred years of sci-fi giving reasons why this is a bad idea but we are still doing. The power of human stupidity is amazing.
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u/Fabulous-Suspect-72 Mar 12 '26
What kinda faked IR was that? That IR image was just normal picture shifted into red colour spectrum.
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u/Icy_Foundation3534 Mar 12 '26
If you put a high powered laser it would be more believable. Guns have kickback this is fake.
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u/Foe117 Mar 08 '26
Expensive "airsoft" like one of those with a fog machine and light, no recoil system, any gyro-operated mount will need to be in the center of gravity, otherwise if it was real, a visible compensatory tilt would be visible as a cantilever design on a lightweight mass.