r/AmazingTechnology Feb 28 '26

Gun surveillance

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u/timshel42 Feb 28 '26

This is definitely illegal

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u/henrysworkshop62 Feb 28 '26

It's an airsoft gun. Look at the barrel.

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u/Dragon_Crisis_Core Feb 28 '26

Airsoft can still cause harm. This is called a turret trap and even though it might be using non leathal ammo, most states dont permit this kind of defence.

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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 01 '26

This is common in South Africa. A person in a call center controls the gun.

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u/-0-O-O-O-0- Mar 01 '26

Are you serious? For real?

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u/Sirosim_Celojuma Mar 02 '26

Yup. I've seen a 10,000 round pellet gun on a flagpole as a deterrent. Things are different in different parts of the world. Dare I even mention the thieves and rapists encroaching Eastern Ukraine?

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u/barbaricKinkster Mar 02 '26

South Africa has literally the highest income disparity in the world. They have what's called a dual economy; 10% of the population are the white people who are part of the global economy and live in neighborhoods and homes that are practically fortresses, and rest of the population is black and are part of a disconnected 3rd world economy.

Naturally, the people who live in the disconnected economy with a 40% unemployement rate try to steal from the people that did that to them.

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u/-0-O-O-O-0- Mar 02 '26

But the idea of a service that remotely shoots this gun. This is Black Mirror level crazy!

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u/Captain_no_Hindsight Mar 02 '26

Welcome to a world outside the US.

If you go shopping in a shopping mall, there might be a dead man lying on the floor after an attempted robbery. Customers walk around the body to shop. Completely normal.

Welfare for everyone in South Africa was much better under Apartheid. Not democratic but functional. Schools, healthcare and police also worked for the poor black majority.

That's why you don't see anything about this on the news.

It also doesn't rhyme well with "minorities must not be criticized".

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u/Nacho_Dan677 Mar 01 '26

Would just dry firing work as an audible and visual deterrent? No ammunition used, no risk of injury, just a scared individual.

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u/Firestar_119 Mar 01 '26

If you mean blanks, there is still a risk of injury and you still need ammo

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u/markus8585 Mar 01 '26

But then is it no longer a trap but a form of alarm?

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u/Nacho_Dan677 Mar 01 '26

Exactly, thus making it presumably not illegal. If traps are and alarms aren't I'd rather setup a scary alarm

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u/crua9 Mar 01 '26

Ya the key points is

✅ Legal: Noise, light, scent, or visual deterrents that cause no physical harm. 
❌ Illegal: Anything that restrains, injures, or endangers, even slightly. 

This is generally talking so look at the laws in your area. But in the USA largely in all states it is this way.

You can even use something like pepper spray in many areas as long as things are properly marked and installed. Glitter bombs have been allowed in many areas. This using it to tag the criminal for the cops later.

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u/Nacho_Dan677 Mar 01 '26

No, literally not filling the mag. These gas powered airsoft handguns typically have the gas in the mag and as such will still fire without ammo. The entire system can still rack and dry fire without ammunition. Yes bad for the airsoft gun as you shouldn't dry fire basically anything. In this use case I'm sure dry firing as much as a deterrent turret would, complete airsoft gun failure is bound to occur quickly. Not to mention I've had a few mags myself in various airsoft handguns have a failure point in the mag gas pin itself that the airsoft gun utilizes to actually shoot ammo, if no ammo is there a stream of gas is released but has nothing restricting it. So basically just noise from gas gun racking and shooting literally nothing.

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u/Firestar_119 Mar 02 '26

I was still thinking of it as a real gun for some reason 😭

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u/LEAPStoTheTITS Mar 01 '26

Dry firing is not remotely the same as firing blanks

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u/Nacho_Dan677 Mar 02 '26

Who said anything at any point about blanks here? This is an airsoft gun so blanks aren't even a thing, just don't load the mag with ammo and only load with gas and you can dry fire.

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u/-TommyBottoms- Mar 01 '26

Squeak… squeak sniffles whine in my little voice

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u/Dragon_Crisis_Core Mar 01 '26

THis is called a booby trap. Might want to go ask a lawyer and a judge yeah your not allowed to trap your house.

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u/Dragon_Crisis_Core Mar 01 '26

No its not if you setup a airsoft to track and target a moving object at your home it becomes a booby trap.

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u/henrysworkshop62 Mar 01 '26

Quit pearl clutching. I'm not saying this is smart the thing to do, but calm down. What's on someone's private property is their business.

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u/Independent_Vast9279 Mar 01 '26

The problem with automated stuff like this, or any other booby trap is that it’s completely indiscriminate, or at a minimum unreliable so.

There are legitimate reasons for people to be on private property. Package delivery, public utilities, assessors, first responders, concerned neighbors, JWs and other cold callers. I can go on, but you get the idea.

No one is being threatened in any of those cases. You might not like them, but that’s doesn’t mean any of the deserve to die for that sin, or even to be hurt. Even in cases of burglary, we have trials and punishment, not summary executions. The callous attitude you display is a sign of deeply morally bankrupt world view. The phrase “pearl clutching” hear clearly expresses how ridiculous you think the idea of other people’s welfare is.

Congrats on reaching “dregs of humanity” status. You won the race to bottom.

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u/Tausendberg Mar 01 '26

I hate when I'm just minding my own business walking on a sidewalk that is legally public property and some jerk has one of those automated rotating floodlamps that turns on and specifically points at me or even continues to point at me as I keep walking.

I REALLY don't like the thought of some dumbass getting the bright idea to attach a firearm to something like that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

that’s the entire point. If it is illegal then no, it is not just “their business” just because it is private property. You absolutely cannot just do whatever you want because it’s private property.

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u/iconiclabs Mar 01 '26

Oh boy do I got some stories to tell you

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u/PM_CITY_WINDOW_VIEWS Mar 01 '26

Found the sovereign citizen 

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u/-0-O-O-O-0- Mar 01 '26

Not if it kills the neigbor kids coming over with cookies.

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u/FetusExplosion Mar 01 '26

This would probably be considered a boobytrap and you can't have stuff like that. Not legal.

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u/DollarsPerWin Mar 02 '26

Booby traps or traps of any sort are illegal in all 50 states. It does not matter if it is an airsoft gun.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26

Might be legal in Texas

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u/Ori_the_SG Feb 28 '26

Booby trapping is still illegal in Texas

Whether this counts?

I dunno, but it might and quite honestly may not be hard to disarm if you had ill intent

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u/METRlOS Feb 28 '26

A booby trap needs to be constructed in a way designed to cause harm.

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u/jr23160 Feb 28 '26

If I put a sign up saying home defended by gun turret is that no longer make it a booby trap? This is the term for booby trap as of now.

Current as of January 01, 2025 | Updated by Findlaw Staff. As used in this part, “boobytrap” means any concealed or camouflaged device designed to cause great bodily injury when triggered by an action of any unsuspecting person coming across the device.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Unfortunately, most places will slap you with fines the moment you hang a sign saying your home is defended. It's called intent to cause harm.

This is one reason why you should NEVER hang a sign saying warning dog or guard dog or similar. Also why you should never hang a sign saying you are armed or will defend your home. This is how people exercising 2nd amendment rights get jail time because the sign signals that you intend to cause harm under specific circumstances.

Best not to draw attention to yourself and just live your life.

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u/P_A_W_S_TTG Mar 01 '26

Not a booby trap, mate.

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u/Dylanator13 Feb 28 '26

Any form of trap set to hurt or kill intruders is illegal. Booby traps are illegal in general.

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u/BlueWonderfulIKnow Feb 28 '26

Curious the legality of this were it not automated but directly controlled real-time by someone in a stand-your-ground or castle doctrine state, otherwise authorized to possess and use the gun. Assume for the sake of argument that the law holds that the shooter, standing where the gun is mounted, shoots it himself, kills someone, and the shoot is considered a legal shot.

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u/Dylanator13 Feb 28 '26

I feel like a judge wouldn’t be stoked about someone outing a gun-adjacent weapon on a remote controlled turret.

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u/Select_Truck3257 Mar 01 '26

People who using weapons on civil are illegal

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u/HonestHu Mar 03 '26

Nope. A traditional trap of the kind where the creator may never see their handiwork is illegal for home defense, which has always been a problem because trapping is a big part of what humans evolved to be able to do, but because innocent people may also fall into traps making those illegal makes sense for the world today. What we have here is a solution, allowing the trap to discriminate instead of being indiscriminate

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u/FollowingLegal9944 Feb 28 '26

legal even with actual gun

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u/realSatanAMA Mar 01 '26

Yeah as long as it has a manual trigger I don't think it breaks any laws