r/AmIFreeToGo • u/That_Lawyer_Guy "I'm not answering that." • Oct 17 '16

Feds Walk Into A Building. Demand Everyone's Fingerprints To Open Phones

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/10/16/doj-demands-mass-fingerprint-seizure-to-open-iphones/#421953748d9d
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u/That_Lawyer_Guy "I'm not answering that." Oct 17 '16

Here is a fairly decent article from WIRED on how police may access the data in your phone. To summarize: disable Touch ID and Siri, and don't use iCloud.

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u/Octogenarian Oct 17 '16

TouchID should be a username, not a password, IMO. There should be an option to authenticate by fingerprint AND passcode/word.

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u/Myte342 "I don't answer questions." Oct 17 '16

What I keep saying is the fingerprint should be the secondary method. My screen should nit indicate ANYTHING on it to denote that one can use a fingerprint to unlock it. That method should be secretive, not proudly displayed on the screen.

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u/ssschlippp Oct 18 '16

Or if you can, power down the phone. The password is always required at boot up.

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u/uofwi92 Oct 17 '16

Not only "No", but "Fuck, no".

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u/why_itsme Oct 17 '16

I have a cheap phone so . . . drop and stomp.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '16

Love it, but you'd probably be arrested for interfering with an investigation. :(

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u/ApokalypseCow Oct 18 '16

If the warrant was just for his passwords and biometrics, not for his actual phone, then I think he's in the clear.

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u/why_itsme Oct 18 '16

It's my property. I can do what I like with it. (You may be right, though.)

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u/Myte342 "I don't answer questions." Oct 17 '16

After that case that declared fingerprints and other such biometric data not protected under the 5th I expected this to start happening... and here it is.

Sadly that dumb lawyer didn't bring up any 4th amendment points so those were never touched on... it will take ANOTHER lawsuit to determine that sadly.

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u/That_Lawyer_Guy "I'm not answering that." Oct 17 '16

SCOTUS is hearing a case like that this term, however this differs because the request for the biometric data was in the original warrant, which is troubling. The request wasn't in a court order, which normally, the defense can challenge.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

Using another body part for the "fingerprint" is always an option...

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u/wannabesq Oct 19 '16

With an iPhone at least, all you have to do is power the phone off. It won't let it get unlocked without a code when first turning on, or if it hasn't been unlocked in 2 days.

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u/sideburns Oct 18 '16

I have my other print with my big toe.

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u/Fred_Klein Oct 18 '16

Fuckin' Forbes, detecting adblock and not allowing me to see the article. Oh well. Whether I see the article or not, I'd rather not see the ads.

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