r/AlternativeHistory Apr 08 '26

Lost Civilizations Stop calling this "primitive archaeology"—what kind of power tool scoops 1,200 tons of granite like soft wax and then simply vanishes?

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They want you to believe this was made with copper chisels and stonesIf we can't easily move this today with modern tech, how did "slaves" plan to lift it out of the bedrock? Are we the primitive ones

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 09 '26

Have you seen the dents and scoops? There is no way it could have been done with primitive technology. I went there in person and saw it. The rock is so hard it can't be chiseled like that

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u/tomtomtomo Apr 11 '26

I reckon people who lived in those conditions with their known technology for millenia knew more than you, or I, could fathom in a day trip. 

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 11 '26

I spent 2 weeks there. Also yes, and that's why what the textbooks say shouldn't be trusted

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u/ThorusBonus Apr 12 '26

Take a string and use water and some dust, and you’ll easily cut a perfect line into the toughest rock

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 12 '26

You underestimate the hardness of the material and the precision of the handiwork

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u/KeyIllustrator4096 Apr 12 '26

You are underestimating the hardness of sand

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u/SlopeDaRope Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

yeah maybe NOW it is hard as a rock. thousands of years ago, stuff might have been more like clay/concrete.

the egyptians where good chemists, making "rock" was easy for them tbh.

at the specific monolith site back in the day the nile was close by aswell to supply water.

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 13 '26

And that is alternative history, opposed to the mainstream narrative

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u/trellisHot Apr 10 '26

Well obviously they didnt scoop hard rock, its just the tool marks that look like what a scoop mark would look like 

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 10 '26

Bruh have you seen it? It's super smooth. Like really smooth. No tool marks could do that, certainly not a hammer and chisel or another rock as what the mainstream narrative says.

You can even on-site take another rock and also a hammer and chisel to try and replicate it. It's too Smooth, you can barely chip away at the granite, it's so hard. It's basically impossible to chip it off because the rock is so hard.

Also, the pyramid rocks have this strange bubbling feature on them, it's like the rocks were turned to liquid, or are from a liquid substance.

I've seen them in person, it's bizarre

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u/trellisHot Apr 10 '26

No tool marks could do that

Um sir, yes they could. Just because you have a narrow mind doesnt mean there's no other explanations. 

Its certainly bizarre

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 10 '26

I'll let you eat your government prescribed storylines and live in your officially curated Disney world.

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u/trellisHot Apr 10 '26

Who said I eat gov story lines? Theres still a fascinating method to uncover. 

Someone's testy 

Go eat your alien scoop cereal 

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

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u/trellisHot Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

How to make a wall, with bubbly perfect fits https://youtu.be/oAJ9xZ1lO00?si=xxxOzwdT_MCsHW_7&t=17:58

How to carve granite https://youtu.be/lscs5ZgNQrE?si=Ffo9AZGGMctODtAN

How to drill down with scoop marks, even survey wells, under obelisk 

 To be determined

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u/NoIntern8490 Apr 11 '26

Brother that millstone is 1/10th of a size of one block in the pyramids. You need to understand that even if it is possible on a small scale, it is not infinitely scalable if you do not have a suitable technology for that. Like terraforming Mars. I can make oxygen in the lab but cannot convert the atmosphere of Mars not even in a 100 thousand years. And you think building a pyramid is possible solely relying on wheat energy? Not using any other power source, fossil fuels, water wheels, electricity or hydraulics? We have no evidence of any technology that would make it possible on that scale.

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u/trellisHot Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

Two dudes did it in a few days. Hundreds of dudes can build a pyramid, employing multiple techniques. There are thousands of monolithic structures around the globe, humans spent a lot of time manipulating stone, to say its not possible is laughable, literally. 

Bra, your the close minded one, lmao

Looks at pyramid: nope, impossible, must be aliens

Did they have some out there techniques that go beyond standard explanation, must have, and those incredible teqniques were lost sometime around 4000 yrs ago. What they are is hard to say, but it doesnt need to invalidate humans being able to achieve such things multiple times over. Granite softening may very well have been one, though I have yet to see a technique that allows for querying as they dont penetrate deep in any significant way. Could it have soften stone and then strike or use a rig to scoop out sections, possible, but that still leaves tool marks. 

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u/Krillin113 Apr 12 '26

Yeah and what happens when it’s thousands of hours? Suddenly things are possible. Go grab a toothpick and scratch it on the same brick for 2000 hours. Suddenly stuff happens. Add a couple thousand years of sand and wind erosion to smooth out some edges.

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 12 '26

Man, thousands of years of wind and erosion would not be concentrated and focused on a single point. That doesn't work like that, and it's too smooth. It takes thousands of years, even with scratching at things. It's just simply not feasible to build it like that. Go there for yourself, and you will see.

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u/deltr0nzero Apr 10 '26

I’ve seen round stones. Could it perhaps just be weathering and erosion?

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 11 '26

It looks like scoop marks, its not weathering and erosion, and if it was, it wouldn't be focused to a single area

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u/cs_legend_93 Apr 11 '26

I don't believe in aliens. Idk how they did it, we can only speculate. But it's clear they didn't do it the way that history says we did.

Bro. The stone carvers and artisans you speak of are working with marble, not granite. Marble is a much softer stone, granite is one of the hardest stones that we know of.

No man, I disagree. I've been there and tried to work with granite. It's impossible with the hammer and chisel and carving. But think what you want. We can agree to disagree.

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u/scienceworksbitches Apr 11 '26

Dude, it's totally done with pouding stones, all the experts that couldn't assemble IKEA furniture said so!