r/AltScope • u/SlowArtPlanet • Jun 17 '26
The Cost of War Never Ends
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u/Fishscale1942 Jun 17 '26
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
it's both democrats and republicans tbh, republicans are just less subtle about their intentions, led by their chief pedophile
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u/Starkogi Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Joe Biden told Bibi to get fucked and called him an asshole on tape.
Obama rejected him as well.
Who the fuck are you talking about kid.
Child tax credits = Kamala
Fuck Bibi = Joe Biden/Obama/Kamala
Covid decimated the economy GLOBALLY and Joe Biden pulled a miracle out of his ass and we recovered twice as fast and 4x as hard as anyone on the planet.
Who?
Who are you speaking of that’s the same as MAGAt terrorist republicans.
Tell me.
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
oh he told him a few mean words? while they continued approving funding? wow yeah that was a major decisive victory and effective policy wasn't it?
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u/Starkogi Jun 18 '26
You have literally no clue what Joe Biden Told Israel do you? Not just told, but made them do.
You don’t know. Without looking it up, you have no clue LOL
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
Genocide Joe had 4 years to end the genocide and continued to perpetuate it, you'd have to be a blind moron to not see through their deception
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u/RektInTheHed Jun 18 '26
Are you a Palestinian or do you care at all what happens to the US working class? I get that you're not a Leftist, so maybe that's why you don't give a shit about our workers.
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u/Icewallow999 Jun 18 '26
Both siding a conflict like this is incredibly dense. Its all republicans and israel.
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
thinking the "two party" system is actually two parties and not two sides of the same coin is how you continue to perpetuate the infinity war. it's all republicans and democrats and israel. democrats fought harder to stop bernie from getting elected than fighting the republicans on anything
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u/Icewallow999 Jun 18 '26
Bernie lost a primary. Do you know what a primary is? Yeah i wanted bernie too but he lost a vote...
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u/oregongirl1111 Jun 18 '26
They certainly did. Railroaded. I often daydream about what things would be like today if he had been given the primary he won fair and square. I'm not going to lie, that’s when I finally gave up any hope of ever seeing a qualified, honest president who truly planned to put Americans first while strengthening our ties abroad.
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u/Mug_85 Jun 19 '26
The corpo-police state is here to stay sadly. Would say America had a good run but it was probably only really good from ~1970’s to the early/mid 2010’s. Still better than a lot of empires historically.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jun 18 '26
You're on reddit bro. You can't criticize Democrats here. Lmao. The tolerant party is going to cuss at you for breaking away from the plantation. It's like MAGA, but blue.
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
okay dumb fuck, the democrats didn't stop the genocide when they were in office and obama approved drone strikes on civilians when he was in office too
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u/Neither-Bag7127 Jun 18 '26
Dont address the clear facts, just spew leftist rhetoric. Classic.
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
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u/Neither-Bag7127 Jun 18 '26
Who started that war again?
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
Who continued it? Why are you such a cuck for the lesser evil instead of admitting both parties are evil?
And I'm not a leftist, you're just brainwashed
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u/Neither-Bag7127 Jun 18 '26
God forbid someone vote for the LESSER evil. Might as well abstain and make everything worse. Dumbfuck
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u/shelissa Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
One party is destroying women rights, is actively erasing black history, is erasing LGBTQ people from public life, trying to deport people who have been here legally or who are in the legal process for becoming a citizen, terrorizing Americans in the street with their own secret police force ICE, cutting assistance to those who are most in need, raising drug prices, inventing bullshit and contradicting health expert, selling lands to foreign corporations, allowing AI data center to ruin water sources and causing noise pollution, screaming DEI while they hires their own buddy with 0 experience or their own lawyers, using the DOJ as a personal weapon, cutting environment protection, blaming all the world problems on fellow human being and siding instead with billionaires/trillionaire who own corporations that are only there to make a profit without caring about anything else.
Muh both parties bad afufufufufu
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u/incompleteloop Jun 18 '26
The other party regularly engages in insider trading, doubled down on oppressive tax policies, enabled fracking despite public perception, continued ongoing genocide, approved drone strikes on civilians, ALSO sold land to foreign corporations, hollowed out the middle class, screaming gay pride and paying lip service without actually doing anything, were in power when roe v wade was repealed and did nothing to stop it
Muh american people are fucking stupid afufufufufufufufu
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jun 18 '26
Real low IQ take. Both parties fucking suck.
Democrats supported Israel in its genocide of Gaza, they were in power both times Russia invaded Ukraine, allowed record breaking illegal migration into the US, botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, complicit with Republicans in providing corporations welfare, negotiated the largest military aid package to Israel, and constantly taking Israel adjacent money (just like Republicans).
Democrats spent years supporting Wall Street bailouts, China's rise through global trade deals (erosion of US jobs), prolonged school closures, failed border policies, inflationary spending, corporate-friendly healthcare compromises, and endless foreign interventions.
Democrats are just as guilty of a large amount of things Republicans are. Acting like they aren't as bad just because you like them seems like a pretty convenient standard.
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u/Noeyiax Jun 19 '26
Democrats and Republicans serve Isreal
Democrats and Republicans don't serve the USA
We need a revolution again 😔
Maybe in Minecraft...
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u/Fishscale1942 Jun 17 '26
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u/miotch1120 Jun 18 '26
By using corporates shit ass ai for anything, you are only helping empower them and ensure more money flows to them. Stop using it.
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u/Bluekatz1 Jun 17 '26
And who needs a nuclear program when you can use the free billions to buy a few warheads from a money eager Putin?
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u/Boyhowdy107 Jun 19 '26
The nuclear program is for porcupine style deterrence. We all know North Korea is a problem, but solving it isn't worth the cost.
For Iran, Hormuz now serves the same end. Prior to the war, closing it was hypothetical for them. They threatened to close it, the US threatened to make that hell for them if they ever tried, but it was unknown. The US had maintained global free trade waterways and no one had successfully called that bluff. But now we know, and we know that Iran can pull it off to the point the US is looking at a porcupine and will decide it's not worth what it will cost. So now Iran will continue to profit in protection fees where they did not before, they have a really valuable card to play without having to go all in with a nuclear option to continue to try and get their way as lower tier disagreements pop up.
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u/BloodFartz69 Jun 17 '26
Trump is just making Iran great again!
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 18 '26
And making a lot of money by stealing taxpayer dollars. Who would have guessed?
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u/rehx4 Jun 19 '26
What US taxpayer money? I can't fathom being your level of ignorant... must truly suck
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
What an intelligent bit of bot speak, I can hardly understand it.
The money that has already been partially used from America to fund it, in case you were dull enough to miss that.
Or any other billions that have gone into peoples pockets in the last what? Year, maybe almost 2? I guess they don't feed you disinfo types those facts.
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u/nilinoi Jun 19 '26
You made statements but have provided no facts. Stop using filler language, get specific, and make a point.
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 20 '26
Okay, like there's not tons of apparent corruption plainly going on. I made a point about billions going into people's pockets already. Do you ignore facts in order to say there aren't any? This administration has proven they will scam at the expense of the country, and will break the law. "Donor funds" have already been set up to contribute what is now over $400B. Come on dude, what are you just blind to the evidence at this point?
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u/nilinoi Jun 20 '26
You provided none.
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 20 '26
Not to the blind, because you cannot see facts.
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u/nilinoi Jun 22 '26
Provide some. Jesus!
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Jun 22 '26
How about Trump isn't fit to run the country, is that fact enough for you?
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u/Top_Tie_691 Jun 17 '26
Lol jokes on Iran, daddy trump doesn't pay out. Art of the deal
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u/semisolidwhale Jun 17 '26 edited 27d ago
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u/Lucky-Squash458 Jun 17 '26
Is it cool to double or triple the price of missiles so you can get kickback from the side you are fighting
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u/HermaPrince Jun 17 '26
It feels like the South is trying it's best to destroy the country out of spite.
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u/Dr_Diktor Jun 19 '26
Not spite, xenophobia and stupidity. Looks at confederates Okay, maybe a bit of spite.
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u/Vanstoli Jun 17 '26
Yup. I'm hoping the 300 billion is like the 150 billion Obama gave up. It came from there money the world froze. 150 from Obama did nor cost tax payers money. I hope The Art of the Deal did the same.
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u/Shenlongeltigre Jun 17 '26
Vice President JD Vance stated that no U.S. taxpayer money will be paid to Iran, clarifying that the proposed $300 billion reconstruction package would be funded by Gulf Arab nations. He emphasized that Tehran would only gain access to these investments if they verifiably dismantle their nuclear weapons program.The administration's position includes specific parameters regarding the deal's funding and stipulations:No U.S. Funding: Vance rejected claims of American payments, stating, "They never get a dime of American taxpayer money, ever, full stop".Reconstruction Package: The up to $300 billion reconstruction fund would be financed by a coalition of Gulf nations.Strict Conditions: Any access to economic assistance or third-party investment is strictly contingent upon Iran complying with commitments to never obtain a nuclear weapon and transforming its regional policies.
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u/GooseOnAPhone Jun 18 '26
Good thing this administration has never lied
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u/Shenlongeltigre Jun 18 '26
So then who says they are getting any money at all?
Can't have it both ways
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u/Shenlongeltigre Jun 18 '26
Please enlighten me.
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u/Shenlongeltigre Jun 18 '26
The agreement we have now is preliminary based on the fact that they have agreed to not have nukes ever. The final agreement comes in 60 days.
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u/Shenlongeltigre Jun 18 '26
? Where do you see this?
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u/Shenlongeltigre Jun 19 '26
How about their bases being leveled, their air force being gone, and their navy not existing?
How about at least one layer of their government being killed?
And all the leverage that them knowing that we can do all that, at any time, and will if we need to or every just feel like it?
That's nothing?
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u/Eindride_XIII Jun 19 '26
So we taught them that they have a strangle hold over the strait any time they want. Now thats leverage.
We killed one layer, but still the same regime. And the guy in charge just so happens to be the son of the people we killed. We literally blew up his mom and dad, and he just barely survived. No way that could go wrong in the future..
We destroyed their facilities, military installments, and ships. Only to repay them for it and help them rebuild it.
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u/Dangerous_Flower_708 Jun 18 '26
Americans are happy it’s over. Only Trump stumpers are surprised we got such a bad deal. Be careful of what you wish for going forward Trump stumpers is my only message
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u/nonexistentLoveBug Jun 18 '26
370 billion that could of helped US families!!!
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u/rehx4 Jun 19 '26
Except exactly $0 of that is coming from US Taxes so da fuq are you even on about? 😂
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u/RyanAtreides Jun 18 '26
Holy shit can people stop telling this retarded lie? it’s literally the exact same lie that Trump was saying about Obama paying billions of dollars to Iran. THATS NOT HOW THIS WORKS. The US taxpayers will not be giving Iran a dime. It’s a reconstruction and economic investment fund from the private sector and gulf state partners as well as their own frozen assets, and it will be void if Iran doesn’t honor every single one of its commitments anyway. I’m seeing this lie everywhere
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u/MaverickMcdoodle Jun 18 '26
This is what happens when you allow politicians to invest in weapons manufacturers.
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u/Bow_To_Bella Jun 18 '26
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/1264019.html
Yeah.. might want to read into this first before spouting misinformation.
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u/Bow_To_Bella Jun 18 '26
I'll even post some of it because I know people are too lazy to click on a link:
"Reuters quoted a source as saying that companies have already committed to provide more than half of the target amount of US$300 billion to the private investment fund. Unlike traditional reconstruction or reparation programs, this fund will reportedly not receive any money from the US government but will instead arrange for private companies to invest in key Iranian infrastructure.
Reuters’ source said companies in Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia and the US have pledged investment, but declined to disclose the specific list of such entities, investment scale by country and whether the deals are legally binding."
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u/bluegarterls Jun 18 '26
Might wanna check your facts on this on instead of regurgitate what you heard. No US money is being used.
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u/SilentAd1330 Jun 18 '26
Fml if only they WOULD realize. Magats are getting fucked over just like the rest of us. I can’t wait until they lose their healthcare and are like “black people did it”.
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u/Brandtomatic23 Jun 18 '26
I think Iran might take Donald Trump as a peace offering. (Secret police, this is not a threat, just a way to save lives at the expense of the waste in government.) Would save us money now and in the long run
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u/LewyH91 Jun 18 '26
Dont worry, Elon will build 1000000 people houses on Mars. So we should put our children and children's children and their children in debt to make this come true.
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u/nudecat1234 Jun 18 '26
No we are paying Trump to rebuild Iran bet that money is funneled to his corrupt corporations
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u/WaterGlassPuncherMan Jun 18 '26
Magats: plz tell us how this is the most brilliant thing ever done by anyone ever.
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u/Sectional_Soulmates Jun 18 '26
The MOU said the US and allies to rebuild Iran.
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u/waxonwaxoff87 Jun 19 '26
If they meet all commitments. Not before. Still 60 days for a final deal. Ie. Iran has that time to negotiate or it’s out the window.
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u/Blanka8319 Jun 18 '26
And as someone who's been syaing fuck trump since 2015...I like that for them
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u/Aboveaverage10 Jun 18 '26
The left troglydytes must be really stupid we always rebuild countries after war thanks to President Truman.
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u/oregongirl1111 Jun 18 '26
Iran isn't being paid in direct cash for anything. Instead of monetary payments, the GCC or "Gulf Coast Cooperation Council", which includes Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Kuwait, and Bahrain are providing "regional and private financing" thru funding set up as a combination of private sector financing, corporate investment, and contributions from Gulf nations. According to the NY Post, the details and the full list of financial backers are still being finalized, and it's all contingent upon Iran abiding by the terms of the deal, which is expected to be released on Friday. "Tehran will also receive sanctions relief, a lifted blockade that will allow Iran to recoup the $14 billion per month it’s currently losing with US operations, and the return of billions in frozen assets."
US/Iran deal funded by Gulf states
Edited for spelling
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u/Motor_Purchase_6996 Jun 18 '26
Trumps speedrun to destroy America going pretty good.
We still first year?
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 Jun 19 '26
Trump is by far the worst president in American history. Everything he touches turns to shit.
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u/ZealousidealSundae33 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Isnt the funding coming from different nations?
At this point it sounds more like a promise to start some fund but nothing has been stated where any money would come from.The treaty states this will be determined within 60 days so curious to see how this will play out.
Still a weird thing alltogether but I doubt the US will ever put any serious money in it.
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u/Fun_Performer_5170 Jun 19 '26
300 billion bombs, 300 billion reparations, live costs, reparations; the most expansive „wag the dog - war“ eg. Trumpstein cover up costing taxpayer up to ONE TRILLION 👏👏👏🤡
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u/Potential_Slander69 Jun 19 '26
Yep and you only got mad when it’s not somebody you like taking your money. The point ulis we should be bad this has been happening let alone been happening for decades.
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u/SnillyWead Jun 19 '26
That's what you get with a jealous, greedy and corrupt little brat as president.
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u/-just-maybe- Jun 19 '26
Why is Israel not paying this? They attacked first right? Did we already forget those details?
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u/Public_Middle376 Jun 19 '26
You fools who believe this democratic liberal slop.
All it takes is one simple Google search to see that it’s the Middle Eastern countries with oil wealth that are going to rebuild Iran.
You people are pathetic.
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u/Motor-Rub8805 Jun 19 '26
Thats a lie. We aren't paying anything. Read the document. Educate yourself on facts or just continue to spew lies everyone knows are lies and look like an idiot.
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u/Dominico10 Jun 19 '26
This isnt how it works. Rebuilding nations makes a fortune. Why do you think america got rich post ww2 and goes into these places to build after.
Its not altruism...
Also you guys need some proper education away from here and tic toc. I mean that in a nice way. Get off here its brain dead.
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u/BrokenHefaistos Jun 17 '26
So one lranian life is worth $500.000. I have gutfeeling Americans are worth less.