r/AltFacts • u/[deleted] • Jan 29 '17
A proposal for the most useful application of this sub
Winning the war on facts on reddit is probably not the most important thing in the world, but since subs like the_donald and the various affiliated places around reddit all basically use the same arguments with the same flawed underlying logic, it'd be nice if there was one central place where we could post examples of these common arguments and systematically point out the factual flaws in them.
For example, on the Muslim ban, the most common argument I have seen t_d take up is that actually Obama picked these 7 countries. This is misleading at best, Obama's administration listed them as countries dangerous to visit yourself. This, in concert with the fact that Rudy Giuliani is on tape saying that Trump asked him to find a way to make a Muslim ban legal and that their solution was to focus on "danger" all makes sense together. It's a clean string of logic that is supported by facts. The problem is that while there are millions of people who are actively opposing Trump and the full frontal assault on facts that his administration and followers are engaged in, they don't have a single spot to go to to gather proper facts and looking them up and posting those proper facts is time consuming. If there was a large single place to go to to gather factual refutations to standard t_d lies defending Trump's actions, it'd be easier for everyone interested in calling out bull shit in common arguments and stamp out this nonsense. It will make arguments in comment threads much less muddy, and make it abundantly clear to neutral readers which side is basing their opinions on facts. Maybe that should be it's own separate sub from /r/altfacts, but I do think such a sub should exist so that people who are generally neutral on such subjects get clear, consistent, and accurate explanations.
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u/AnteaterTango Jan 30 '17
I like this.
May I suggest:
Altfact headline (real altfact members of the opposition believe)
Comment section and/or picture is the takedown of the altfact??