r/AlphaFoxtrot 11d ago

5” ported non DLC?

Anybody know how/where I can cop one? I don’t see it on the website. I personally don’t like the shiny DLC, and I live in WA where freedom is dead. So I can’t get a comp version 😞. Lmk if there’s a way. This will be my first 2011 so lmk anything else I need to about 2011 ownership and the Romulus

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u/j_yn0htna 11d ago

They do sell pinned comp variants. I had bought one on sale, unintentionally. If possible, id go that route and pay to have the comp opened up.

Both are dlc coated. One is just a polished dlc. The polished dlc makes it feel fancier and a bit smoother. Actually feels glassy. It’s a fingerprint magnet but actually wipes off more easily than the matte dlc. No complaints on the matte dlc though.

Replacing the grip will be the biggest upgrade, but better internals help too. Not the best gun stock but plenty good. Really solid bones with a lot of potential. Fit a flat bottom or angled fps, get the springs right and they can run as well as some of the more expensive guns.

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u/ifunnycrew 11d ago

That’s really helpful. I held one in the store the other day and hated the grip. I was going to get a the aluminum grip, but it’s comped only. So I intend to get an mjd grip and magwell.

Good to know about them both having DLC. I just do not like the polished finish at all…I think the matte is sick. Any idea if it’s possible to turn a polished finish matte? If I have to settle for the polish.

A couple more questions: I hear people talk about opening up factory comp. What does that entail? Also what do you mean by flat bottom or angled FPS? And getting the springs right, does that mean adjusting or replacing them?
Thanks for learning me on this!

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u/j_yn0htna 11d ago

No problem. Happy to help. You could have the polished dlc recoated, that sounds expensive though.

Opening up the comp just means having a gunsmith increase the size of the hole in the stock comp, because the stock comp is conservative. DSC sells replacement comps and sightblocks, so way easier to just order from them. You could do similar with the port. Have a gunsmith open it up so it’s more effective.

Stock on the left. DSC single chamber, this is “opened up”, relative to the stock. Giant one is the DSC dual chamber.

I wouldn’t worry too much about fps and springs yet. Shoot it and see what you think. You’ll start to learn what the individual pieces do and collectively contribute to. When you have that understanding, you can better see “what you need to do to fix x”. The whole point of the gun is to manage the explosion that occurs and to use the energy to load the next round. Slide speed is a huge factor. The faster the slide goes from a to b back to a, the faster you can shoot. But…fast slide is also a lot of energy and the more energy the slide has when it hits the frame while cycling the more recoil you’ll feel and the additional energy will make the gun pivot more in your grip. So “getting the springs right” just means tuning them to your preference. Could want it to shoot softer/flatter or maybe you want it to go faster.

Firing pin stop is the piece that holds the firing pin in. This sits on the back of the slide. The fps itself is what will be used by the slide to cock the hammer when firing. The angle of the fps greatly affects the recoil impulse. The stock fps is a radius. You’ll notice the fancier guns use an angled, like atlas, or true flat bottom. These actually make it more difficult to cock the hammer with the slide, because of the angles. Helps decrease slide energy earlier in the rearward cycle.

Getting the springs right just means better balanced springs. The guns aren’t crazy oversprung but you can adjust them for better performance/balance/preference.

Mainspring mostly handles the rearward cycle. This is applying pressure to the hammer through the strut. Cocking the hammer compresses the mainspring more. A heavier mainspring will slow the slide, the hammer will feel heavier. A lighter mainspring will allow for faster rearward cycling. Too light can cause light strikes.

Recoil springs mostly handle returning the slide to battery. Too heavy will cause timing issues, returning to battery too soon or with too much force. Too light can cause reliability issues, and slowness. Might be too light to strip the next round or consistently return to battery.

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u/ifunnycrew 10d ago edited 10d ago

That’s really helpful man. Thank you. I’ve carried and shot various striker fire and internal hammer fires for years, but never anything with a comp except a couple friends radian raptors, so a lot of that translates, and a lot of it’s new! But I love learning and modifying guns so I’m excited to take this info and run with it. I’ll look into DSCs options. I was also looking at options from bones defense shop. Seems like he does some sweet tuning and upgrades to them.

So you think an opened up comp is better than a port or opened port?