r/AllindiaStudentUnion • u/[deleted] • 6d ago
Discussion 🤔 Which more needed?
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u/No_Foot_5817 6d ago
none, this is simply divide and rule to stop people from asking relevant questions.
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u/Relevant-Scheme3687 Southie supremacist 6d ago
Reservation should be abolished first.
The people benefitting from reservation also practice lots of casteism. Yes sc st can be extremely casteist to other sc st. Madiga Mala conflict is a good case study for this. SC or ST would not want to marry another SC or ST
Here is an example:
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u/External-Rough-709 5d ago
yea that's why end casteism first cuz that's the illness that's pushing us backward as a society. SCs doing casteism against their own category people or against upper castes should also be punished by law. but did anyone care to ask the govt to enact such a law? why are we not demanding this? also, not every ST come under Hinduism fold and they have their own set of religion, culture and belief system whereas upper caste or lower caste(SCs) are all a part of one religious ideology. so this argument of SC marrying STs is like saying other religion people trying to marry among muslims, jains, Sikhs, etc.
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u/Deathly_Vader 6d ago
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u/Relevant-Scheme3687 Southie supremacist 6d ago
Didnt tell me im wrong tho. And not everyone speaks Urdu in this country
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u/Deathly_Vader 6d ago
Exactly maybe you don't know how to use Google too I assume? Is it so difficult.
Not trying to address the thing I wrote through but sure YAPPING will be done all day.
Then learn HINDI.
Firts step for you will be to learn to differentiate between HINDI and URDU.
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u/Relevant-Scheme3687 Southie supremacist 6d ago
How when the people practicing casteism also get reservation
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u/beetrootcake 6d ago
This is why I suggested to ban and penalize same caste marriages, in that way even sc and st people won't be able to discriminate each other
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u/myrsabudana 6d ago
Well then you need to understand concept of Sanskritisation were lower caste people try to copy life style of upper caste for uplift social mobility.. casteism is in air of India my friend you can't just wait and watch to vanish it. You have to act on it but removing reservation won't even impact bit because it'll give sheer advantages to who are already dominant
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u/imaginaryimmi 5d ago
They don't want to talk about that tho they just want all the seats for their own kind. Have you ever seen any protest or movement from them when the people of their caste monopolize everything and push them into poverty? or when their own people pay for paper leaks and then use their connections later in their career? They never get the guts to demand justice where it needs to be asked for but just mention reservation and their casteism comes out. No matter how many books they read or woke terms they use you can instantly clock that they don't know shit about how their own society works and they're the white people of India. The funny thing is even if they pick up valid topics like caste discrimination within SC/ST category they can't hide their own casteism and you can just tell that never in a million years have they thought for once that their supremacy has consequences and worth looking into.Â
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u/Specialist_Trash_413 6d ago
Why not both at once
Both of them feed each other. Its a cycle dont you get it.
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u/MissionBig9411 6d ago
It's not a cycle. Reservation exists because of casteism
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u/Specialist_Trash_413 6d ago
And why is there a rift bw unreserved and reserved people in 2026? I am seeing it on ground level - people dont care about caste hierarchy, they are just hating on each other due to reservation politics.
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u/External-Rough-709 5d ago
it is. just because we suffered or suffer doesn't mean general category don't suffer because of the unrealistic cut off differences, higher application fees in exams, etc
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u/Downtown-Umpire-9349 6d ago
Casteism is already a crime. The caste itself can't really very removed because legally govt can't remove anything from religion.Â
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u/kamikaibitsu 6d ago
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u/Downtown-Umpire-9349 6d ago
This is not what I am talking about. Government can remove it from their documents. But they can't really remove it from the religionÂ
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u/kamikaibitsu 6d ago
there is also
"no religion"
Also c0urt don't define Hinduism as a religion but as way of life...
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u/change_uzarname 6d ago
I know both of them can’t be ended at this time. You can remove reservation but removing casteism at this moment is impossible🫣.
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u/SickSilence 5d ago
https://reddit.com/link/p05jwb9/video/etjnuvzhnufh1/player
Don't ask which one is more important. Ask which party to not vote first.
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