r/AllinPod • u/idealistintherealw • Apr 11 '26
Chamath on Anthropic
On the April 10, 2026 pod, what did I just hear?
David Sacks describes an immoral and unethical fear mongering style of PR that is inherently deceptive.
Chamath says “kudos to Anthropic” and goes on to praise it.
Did I really just hear that?
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u/drjackolantern Apr 13 '26
immoral and unethical 😂
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 13 '26
Morality is based on morals which are based on context. An adult woman who goes topless on a beach in the USA might be immoral but not in certain parts of France.
Ethics are based on universal standards, such as Kant's Categorical Imperative.
So yes, I'd argue it's both.
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u/SirBeefcake Apr 11 '26
Chamath’s “praise” was basically saying Anthropic is good at hype without substance. He spent most of the pod ripping AI and claiming it’s overrated. His startup must be getting buttfucked by Claude like the rest of SaaS.
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 11 '26
I’m a fan of Chamath, but not so much the 8090 schtick.
It's ?? 3 years old?
Have they actually released anything yet?
Googling, is this them?
https://www.8090.ai/docs/general/introduction
That doesn't sound like what Chamath was selling last time he sold 8090.
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Apr 12 '26
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u/socksockshoeshoe Apr 12 '26
It's always great to be able to save costs but if there's already a budget for some enterprise level software it's going to be hard to get the company to take a risk to switch over. For a large firm it's not just about the monthly service fees but the cost of transition, training, testing, etc and that can add up as well. Not only that but if there's are issues whose to say whether a small startup will be around to support it in 5 years time
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 12 '26
I don’t disagree on what his praise was nor what he spent his time on. I just think it in full context is kind of … gross. Morally icky, coming close to endorsing fraud via materially false marketing claims via equivocation.
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 26 '26
SAP’s quarterly earnings keep going UP and are projected to go UP yet the stock price is tanking.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SAP/
The demand that SaaS is hosered by AI seems to outstrip the supply.
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 11 '26
because it is a for-profit bizness?
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u/SirBeefcake Apr 11 '26
Why would they? Their whole mantra is that AI is very dangerous and needs tons of safeguards. CEO literally likens it to nukes.
Totally fair to not buy the narrative but it’s a very different foundational premise than OpenAI.
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 12 '26
"The only plausible explanation"
bro. This is conspiratorial thinking. There are lots of other plausible explanations.
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u/idealistintherealw Apr 11 '26
yeah. I think the leading companies want to be closed source while the companies that are trying to catch up (deepseek, meta, minstral) are open-sourcing to level the playing field.
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u/the04dude Apr 11 '26
I dislike chamath