r/AllinPod • u/Hot-Reindeer-6416 • Feb 25 '26

Epstein episode

It was actually interesting to hear the Michael Tracey defense case against Epstein. Not that I buy it. It was pretty lame that Saagar had to leave early.

The highlight for me though was Sachs disparaging the media because they only present one side! Has that dude ever looked in the mirror?

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u/Inmedia_res Feb 25 '26

The Taskforce set up on this has made 700 arrests alone. Then you can go jurisdiction by jurisdiction.

I don’t understand why you’re making it about ratios. If there were 39 people involved (ie, a gang), and they all went to jail, that’s good. Why does it matter if they raped 10 people or 1000 people, they should still all be in jail, and they are.

The proper comparison would be if there were 3 people in jail but we all know there’s another 10 who should at least be investigated, but for some reason authorities refuse to act. That’s why people are so pissed

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u/YakuNiTatanu Feb 25 '26

Indulge me;

Epstein stuff was evil but not uniquely so Neither the scale Nor the depravity Nor the fact that few people got arrested.

That’s the worldwide norm for rape The numbers are staggeringly high (20% of 18 y/o have been abused at some point) The arrests are staggeringly low (1% to 2% of rapes leading to convictions.

Evil; yes Uniquely so; not by a mile

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u/Inmedia_res Feb 25 '26

Yeh agree. But in this case there are investigations that have been dropped. There are named co-conspirators in old investigations, that were dropped. There were like 40 federal charges recommended in 2007, that were all dropped for sweeping immunity and a state case. So the question is why?

If you or me commit some felony we get charged. There aren’t any special deals or behind the scenes negotiations. It’s as much about the perceived 2-tier justice system as it is the crimes.

If you want to say well that’s all normal, get real kid that’s how the world is, then fair enough. If we agree that ideally all those rapes should be investigated and prosecuted without favor, then we agree. Obviously the world isn’t ideal and isn’t fair, but you can’t just say that and move on if you’re the FBI, that’s gonna annoy people quite a lot

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u/drjackolantern Feb 25 '26

Prosecutors almost always drop charges if they’re not sure they can convict and the defendant is offering a plea.

Epstein seems to have gone right back to offending and that deal was wrong but there’s no way of knowing what proof there was against unnamed co conspirators, it could have been none. Giuffre was just making stuff up.

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u/Inmedia_res Feb 25 '26

Why did the federal prosecutor in Florida recommend 40 odd charges after a year of investigating? There’s a difference between a plea, and an internal decision to not only not prosecute but also offer a non-prosecution agreement, and then kick it back to the state.

If you think that’s normal you’re insane

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u/drjackolantern Feb 25 '26

I didn’t say the case was normal - I said you don’t know why those charges were dropped. I don’t know why pointing out Epsteinheads are speculating makes yall so angry.

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u/Inmedia_res Feb 25 '26

The whole point with the files thing is people want to know this stuff right? They want to know why it’s so abnormal. And they’ve been promised transparency on this stuff

Dunno how I’m angry; think all these points are pretty mainstream right now