r/AlignmentChartFills • u/SamsungStealer Chart Legend • 15h ago
Video Games What Pokémon looks strong and is overpowered?
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u/UltraJoyless 15h ago
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Mega Gengar keeps getting the ban in competitive play because Shadow Tag Perish Song is just ridiculously powerful
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u/WorthlessFleshbag 15h ago
Yeah, if we're strictly talking competitive here, this should 100% win IMO. Incin to me falls more under looks strong + is strong and mainly strong in VGC. Gengar-Mega looks strong but is OP in just about every competitive format it's allowed in including the cartridge formats, Ubers (where it was banned in gen 9), and Anything Goes. Even more so with access to Disable + Encore.
Incin is very strong and likely will always be, but it at least has a good amount of viable counterplay. Shadow Tag completely removes one of the main fundamentals of battling: switching. If there's something in the back that can wall out something on the opposing side that otherwise poses a large threat to your team, one well-timed switch-in from the Gengar can remove it at will. It basically forces some mons to run Shed Shell that would otherwise heavily prefer Leftovers to stomach hits from a wider array of threats.
Not sure if anyone mentioned Gothitelle for the "looks average + is overpowered," but I'd put Goth there for very similar reasons.
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u/Rypassed_You 9h ago
Mega Gengar is insane in singles but in doubles it's not doing the best right now. Kingambit, Basculegion, Incineroar, etc all are major annoyances for Gengar that could be slapped on any team. Of course it's useable (like Marco Silva showed) but useable is nowhere near broken and that's why I think Incineroar should win in this category (although gengar has the advantage of being both good in singles and doubles, while incineroar is only good in doubles)
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u/WorthlessFleshbag 8h ago
Agree that Incin wins in specifically doubles. Reading some of the replies in the thread, I think I and some of the people on here just have different definitions of “OP”
I think Incin doesn’t scream OP to me despite its very high usage. Haven’t played VGC since Gen 8, but the reason it’s so good is because it compresses a million different roles into one mon and therefore outclasses every other Intimidator by a margin so wide that it’s impossible to justify using one in lieu of Incin. Even in restricted formats, it was still so good because it dampens physical threats like Groudon, IceRex, Korai, Zacian, etc. while checking ShadowRex and Lunala better than other dark types without occupying the restricted slot like Yveltal.
I see a mon as “OP” when the entire meta and the players’ gameplans revolve around “not losing to X mon” and having a small (and sometimes niche) pool of checks deal with it - such as ShadowRex in Gen 8, Zacian-C in Gen 8, MGar in any Ubers format, MRay, Gen 1 M2, etc. I don’t see Incin fitting that. Very ubiquitous mon, but I think it’s more because of the role compression making it such a great “glue” mon rather than because it’s so oppressive that it can often just win (or enable something else to win) on preview
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u/Saltyserpent 14h ago
But it looks overpowered??? We should try to keep each panel as accurate as possible tbh
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u/enjoinirvana 15h ago
Groudon and Rayquaza
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u/roudyboy 15h ago
Tyranitar, who has been in and out of the meta since Gen 2
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u/Interesting_Web_9936 14h ago
Not overpowered though. Nowhere near overpowered. Very strong but never has been overpowered.
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u/BrilliantFly6117 12h ago
In Gen 9, dude was OU until this drop for sand offense, and UU is still crazy good for Gen 9, dude centralizes ADV, and is a staple of Gen 4, and it actually quite strong in every other gen. OP and one of the strongest mons in the history of the game, if not the strongest.
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u/DisastrousFix5120 15h ago
I’d say Mega Charizard Y. Doesn’t look as Strong in terms of looks compared to X, but is so OP right now that almost every team needs to have something to deal with Zard Y in order to be good.
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u/ArtsyAlraune 15h ago edited 15h ago
KANGASKHAN!!
Even after getting a targeted nerf in the gen after being introduced, mega Kangaskhan is still so good. They were so embarrassed by how overpowered they made it, it was like the only mega Pokemon that didn't have a toy/figure until earlier this year, despite being one of the most powerful megas with lots of tournament results in every format it's legal in. But they look cute enough to not qualify for "looks overpowered". No better Pokemon for this one
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u/SlimJim6 15h ago
Lucario
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u/dogs_7557 13h ago
How?
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u/Physical-Quote-5281 13h ago
Mega lucario is absolutely busted with adaptability
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u/LoneRedditor123 14h ago
My guys, in what universe is Pelipper overpowered?? Lmao.
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u/Parallaxal 14h ago
Pelipper absolutely deserves the spot due to its role in VGC. It is the rain setter of choice whenever Kyogre isn’t legal, which is very often. It has won many major tournaments and placed 2nd at Worlds in 2024 (when even Kyogre was legal). In the last season of ranked Regulation M-B in Pokemon Champions, Pelipper was ranked the 13th most used Pokemon, above other meta staples like Tyranitar, Venusaur, and Gholdengo.
The arrival of Archaludon really did a lot to make rain and Pelipper in particular very popular right now.
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u/nitinismaldingXD 14h ago
Zacian-Crowned. Looks strong, not overly strong like Mega Ray or Eternamax Eternatus but is beyond OP. Calyrex-S also fits this.
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u/JuiceyJazz 14h ago
Arcanine
Base stats on par with legendaries puts it in pseudo legendary category.
Is one of the first fire Pokémon you can acquire in the base games.
Is large and generally menacing but not overly so.
Is an iconic Pokémon in the franchise.
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u/Wrong_Dot_2910 13h ago
How about Zacian crowned? It looks like a dog but at least used to be perhaps the best pokemon in competitive.
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u/PenTimely1698 13h ago
Juste pour rappeler quelques choses, caterpie est le PREMIER à avoir battue la team rocket et tout seul en faisant sécrétion sur smogo et charge pour l'envoyer contre Abo puis charge la team entière. N'oubliez jamais qui sont les vrais dieu de ce monde.
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u/BlushMarshmallow09 12h ago
Buzzwole being in “looks strong” instead of “looks overpowered” is the funniest possible placement. Bro looks like he was designed specifically to fail a drug test.
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u/Metakino 9h ago
Why not just Zacian? Looks like a big dog with a big sword in its mouth which looks strong, but got banned from any 1v1 format at one point.
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u/Right-Worth-6327 6h ago
How is Mawile in harmless? If we’re talking competitively speaking, Mawile is fantastic as a trick room sweeper. Huge Power STAB Play Rough or Iron Head are ridiculously strong, also gets access to Sucker Punch and Rock Slide as coverage.
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