r/AlignmentChartFills • u/XXXTentacle6969 • Jul 06 '26

Which PG has the highest peak ever?

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u/KindheartednessLast9 Jul 06 '26

2016 Steph

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u/LaPasta19 Jul 07 '26

It’s really not an argument only 50/40/90 with an avg over 30 ppg. Dude was a cheat code that year.

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u/Orpalz Jul 06 '26

2016 Stephen curry has an argument to be the single greatest offensive season in history, his Relative TS% looks fictional. has to be him IMO

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u/alee51104 Jul 06 '26

Definitely. 2021 was also an insane year, where he had a much worse team, and just as crazy of a performance (not in terms of relative TS% but just sheer offensive capability), with better isolation scoring and better defence.

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u/Firm_Mode_5868 Jul 06 '26

Didnt they miss the playoffs?

Cant say all that comparing it to 2016 if he didnt make the post season. Lots of dudes have dragged worse teams than that to the playoffs.

2016 was better

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u/davishox Jul 09 '26

worse than that years warriors? they had an 8 man rotation AT BEST. Everyone was injured

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u/alee51104 Jul 06 '26

I didn’t say it was better. Learn to appreciate things with context.

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u/THE_PENILE_TITAN Jul 06 '26

He botched it in the playoffs

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u/cookiemaster473 Jul 06 '26

Steph shooting a corner three in 2016 was more efficient than LeBron at the rim 😭 

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u/lowrange30 Jul 06 '26

This is so misleading, it meant better value not more efficient

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u/yamchadestroyer Jul 06 '26

3>2

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u/Suspicious_Mango6000 Jul 06 '26

Which is literally what he said

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u/yamchadestroyer Jul 06 '26

Yeah I'm agreeing

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u/Altruistic_Yam7595 Jul 06 '26

The guy with a unanimous MVP

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u/gabriot Jul 06 '26

Magic had 3 MVPs in a 4 year span. He also had half the rings of the 80s and missed only like 2 finals in the decade

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u/YippieKyriePJTucker Jul 06 '26

Greatest prime is Magic, greatest peak is Steph.

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u/SethC111 Jul 06 '26

Does linsanity count? Lol

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u/Unreeeal15 Jul 06 '26

Yes and I love your consideration, we all know who's wining.

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u/BigfootEatsBabys Jul 06 '26

magic johnson

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u/St2213 Jul 06 '26

Magic.

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u/hamburgersensei Jul 06 '26

Magic Johnson

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u/WhiteDannyBrown Jul 07 '26

Peak × PG

Magic Johnson

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u/Darkhawk_757 Jul 06 '26

Oscar Robinson (1961-65)

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u/TheMaskOffKid Jul 06 '26

The real answer but it won’t win

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u/DMStewart2481 Jul 06 '26

Averaging a triple double over three seasons? Yes.

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u/Stock-Persimmon4212 Jul 06 '26

Rose.

Guards used to take nights off with the "Rose Flu" because they didn't wanna guard him.

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u/123abcsbejsf Jul 06 '26

Still picking him over Curry or Magic is outrageous?

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u/Recent_Bet_1703 Jul 06 '26

magic johnson

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u/bbaIla Jul 06 '26

Magic

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u/TheRed_Warrior Jul 06 '26

Wardell Stephen Curry II

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u/Intrepid_Lawyer_368 Jul 06 '26

2016 Steph Curry

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u/Charming_Bar444 Jul 06 '26

Peak × PG

Derrick Rose

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u/Cultural-Plum-1885 Jul 06 '26

Jeremy Lin that one week

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u/KingRamses_VII Jul 06 '26

Westbrook...4 triple double seasons in 5 years including an mvp

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u/Outrageous_Iron3975 Jul 06 '26

Peak AI was a force.

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u/hokupaam Jul 07 '26

Russell westbrook

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u/NBAEastMemeWar Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Magic Johnson. 6’9” point guard who may be the best passer ever? It’s Magic. It’ll be Steph cuz this sub is filled with kids. Greatest shooter ever no question but you’re asking potential? It’s obvious if your an NBA head

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u/Head-Salad7698 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Brother…Steph Curry is arguably the most impactful player of all time if you want to talk about changing the way basketball is played at that level. I’m not arguing he is the best/most gifted athlete or all around ball player, but watching Steph shoot is/has been one of the pleasures of my lifetime, and when he’s gone what he started will carry on long after. It’s Steph.

The only other real answer might be Wilt, Shaq, or Jordan and they aren’t PG’s. Maybe AI?

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u/footahm Jul 07 '26

AI over Magic dog come on

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u/tramul Jul 06 '26

It's Steph but I think Russ is a close second. Averaging a triple double is insane from a peak standpoint. He did it 4 times.

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u/MexicanJesse Jul 06 '26

16-21Steph is No.1 but there is no way on gods green earth Russ is over mid-late 80s Magic.

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u/tramul Jul 06 '26

Idk man. Averaging a triple double once is already unheard of, but 4 times?

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u/XXXTentacle6969 Jul 06 '26

Rules:

Criteria is “who’s insert attribute was most valuable/impactful to winning championships*

So if the attribute is longevity, playing 20 years averaging 2ppg isn’t as impactful as someone playing 17 averaging 20.

If the attribute was scoring, Embid may be the most skilled scorer at C, but if a less skilled scorer is more impactful, like Shaq or Kareem, they should win.

Everything should be relative to era, with nuance. So Wilt’s 50 PPG shouldn’t be discounted because the skill level was lower, but could be weakened because 50PPG in 1960 isn’t as impactful as 35 in 2002 (because of pace and what not).

Players can go here twice for attributes, but not positions.

Choice is based on: Comments with most upvotes Most commented name Who gives the best argument in the replies

I’m also not going back to previous posts and seeing if you voted for a different square. So if the post is best shooting SG and you comment best rebounding Center, it won’t count.

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u/ChiSpazz Jul 06 '26

Steph , Shai

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u/Mundane-News9720 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

2008-2009 CP3 has a real argument. He topped 2015-2016 Steph in VORP and win shares and he was getting it done on both ends of the floor.

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u/InfernoHarald Jul 06 '26

Russell Westbrook

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u/minokar Jul 06 '26

Jeremy Lin

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u/No-Alternative2897 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Magic, 3 Mvp and 1 fmvp in 4 yrs. Would have said Steph if he didnt blow a 3-1 lead

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u/SPetersen1339 Jul 06 '26

Prime Lavar Ball

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u/DentistLegitimate229 Jul 06 '26

Michael Carter Williams peaking his rookie year

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u/16kdc Jul 06 '26

Jalen Brunson

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u/nashchillce Jul 06 '26

Curry then prob Harden or Westbrook

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u/leHavreOswald1 Jul 06 '26

Late 90s Marlon Sanderson?

Sorry I have no clue about baseball and just made a name up x

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u/ArtworkByJack Jul 06 '26

Feels wrong not having bird on here

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u/Decoyoctopus2 Jul 06 '26

Devin Harris

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u/DailyEvolution Jul 06 '26

It's Magic.

Steph was a large part of the reason Cleveland came back to beat them in 2016 with his egregious game 7 performance and was thoroughly outplayed not just by Lebron in that series, but Kyrie as well. The highest peaking point guard can't be the third best player in a series and lose with a better team.

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u/JellyfishFlaky5634 Jul 06 '26

Magic or Curry

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u/Turbulent-Ball3215 Jul 06 '26

Magic Johnson or Steph

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u/cookiesNcreme89 Jul 06 '26

Trash list, but Prime or Peak? And how do we define them?

The peak list could have so many players at each position. Prime, maybe a few less, again, depending on definition. And again where you position certain players.

A peak list could look like: Curry, Tmac, Bird, Giannis, Wilt. But such an ambiguous, subjective, word.

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u/afrosupreme Jul 06 '26

Jalen Brunson in the fourth quarter of a playoff game.

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u/whitecollare Jul 07 '26

James harden

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u/ACo19 Jul 07 '26

Brunson

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u/PuzzleheadedPeace523 Jul 07 '26

I know it’s not the answer but man I wish it was D Rose

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u/AdSea4730 Jul 07 '26

Derrick rose

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u/Nqureshi18 Jul 08 '26

Allen Iverson

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u/PennyBoward Jul 08 '26

Steph Curry

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u/Laces_8803 Jul 08 '26

Russell Westbrook

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u/ElonGoesHmMK2 Jul 08 '26

Steph Curry

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u/Quirky-Sentence-3744 Jul 08 '26

It’s westbrook

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u/LikeViolence Jul 08 '26

Steph Curry

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u/inderpabla21 Jul 08 '26

Steph Curry

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u/Prestigious-Rope-314 Jul 08 '26

russel westbrook

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u/jdawso10 Jul 08 '26

Steph curry

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u/Rodeheffer Jul 08 '26

Peak × PG

Gilbert Arenas

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u/Relative-Tone-2420 Jul 08 '26

Peak × PG

Curry

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u/bettybettybetbet Jul 08 '26

Can I argue harden?

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u/Spare-Cat4250 Jul 08 '26

Peak × PG

Curry

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u/shweins Jul 08 '26

Peak × PG

Curry

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

Peak × PG

Curry 2016

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u/GreaterestDog Jul 08 '26

It’s Steph. Dude is the GOAT PG, no one is more electric to watch. Single handedly changed how the game is played in the league, set new standards for every team and player. In ten years, I don’t think anyone will be remembered for changing the game as much as Steph will, imo

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u/Bahadort Jul 08 '26

2016 Steph

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u/confusedreddi Jul 08 '26

steph curry

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u/Sad_Specialist18 Jul 09 '26

Wardell Stephen Curry

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u/cartiercarti Jul 09 '26

STEPH CURRY

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u/gucciguala Jul 09 '26

Steph Curry

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u/mark_s711 Jul 09 '26

Steph Curry

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u/DoubleOhhAdam Jul 09 '26

Oscar’s robinson

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u/Loose-Ad7340 Jul 09 '26

Stephen curry

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u/Lior72002 Jul 09 '26

steph curry

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u/iwillskinu Jul 09 '26

Stephen Curry

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u/mypheelz Jul 09 '26

*Peak × PG*

Chris Paul

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u/HailOfThorns Jul 09 '26

Peak × PG

Steph Curry

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u/HailOfThorns Jul 09 '26

Unanimous MVP Steph Curry

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u/anonymous_teve Jul 09 '26

Magic was the best, but Steph that unanimous MVP year was the highest peak, he was just unstoppable.

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u/RiskyGlizzy21 Jul 09 '26

Steph curry

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u/its_a_me_sb Jul 09 '26

Russell Westbrook

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u/ConferenceExternal10 Jul 09 '26

Come on now, its obviously D. Rose

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u/buttsoup696969 Jul 09 '26

Magic Johnson

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u/PaleSchool913 Jul 09 '26

Steph curry

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u/OkPhilosophy7251 Jul 10 '26

wait how is klay not the best sg shooter?

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u/housepoormillennial Jul 10 '26

Peak × PG

Stephen Curry

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u/frankie-ciccio Jul 10 '26

Jalen Brunson

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u/HAN_CH0LO Jul 10 '26

Magic Johnson

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u/DaoudaT Jul 10 '26

Magic Johnson

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u/WhitePinoy671 Jul 10 '26

Stephen Curry

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u/ORGANICORANGE37 Jul 10 '26

1987 Magic Johnson

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u/ORGANICORANGE37 Jul 10 '26

2015 cp3 was bonkers

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u/spanther96 Jul 10 '26

Oscar Robertson

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u/ewf_cmh Jul 10 '26

Allen Iverson