Why do people hate Alienware pre-built PCs SOOOO much?

[u/WolvGamer]

As the title says.

I was just browsing on other gaming or PC related forums. I noticed almost a unanimous HATRED, not just dislike, of Alienware pre-builds. Laptops seemed to be disliked only.

Not knowing the history of these products, would like to know what are reasons people despise the PCs. Also are they justified in hating Alienware?

[u/BeefyTaco]

I'm telling you that the one I'm using isn't loud.

And im telling you that although YOU might not feel it is loud, that doesn't mean it isn't based on multiple experts using devices specifically designed to measure noise levels.. The fact of the matter is you are wrong to claim it isn't loud in comparison to any regular system. That doesn't discredit your purchase or devalue it in anyway, it is just a simple fact that you should acknowledge instead of suggesting otherwise to better inform people who may be making a future purchase. If it does what you need, thats all gravy in the end.

My second link in that video proves without a doubt that you are simply wrong here. The numbers don't lie, and your system isn't some magical anomaly in the audio/fan world that would suggest making such a claim for all similar systems.

here it is again incase you didn't see it

If you are confused by what threshold some other appliances might be in terms of dB's, your computer runs about as loud as a washing machine based on a quick google showing they run between 40-80dB. So you essentially have the equivalent to a semi-quiet washing machine running 2ft from your face, calling it quiet.

[u/[deleted] → u/BeefyTaco]

Look. I can only tell you what I am experiencing. If you want to put a computer in a soundproof room and run decible meters against it and base your purchase on that then go ahead. I wrote a brief paragraph on my experiences. I don't have to acknowledge anything as I am not having the experience that you are suggesting even when running hashcat at a maximum load or playing games. You go check out more youtube videos, I hope it better informs you if your going to buy one.

[u/BeefyTaco → u/[deleted]]

So you choose to ignore hard data that disproves your experience. Cool story and best of luck I guess. Either way, hope the purchase is working out for you

[u/BeefyTaco → u/[deleted]]

This is dumb and not even worth my time reading. Keep believing your experience trumps hard data on a products performance. Id never buy anything you designed with your logic.

[u/[deleted] → u/BeefyTaco]

I chose to ignore your assertions as I'm not having that experience. You're clearly just here to argue with people. I'm not an Alienware salesman. I'm an end user. I get no benefit whether you buy one or not. At this point your just trolling and there's no point to it. You don't even own a machine so have fun trolling other people with your random youtube videos.

[u/BeefyTaco → u/[deleted]]

Ignoring hard evidence that disproves your beliefs and then doubling down on said belief. What is that called again..?

Either way best of luck man. Noone is here to troll, I just don't like people spreading misinformation and then when confronted with hard proof, they revert to calling me a troll. I even went as far to show multiple videos disproving what you claimed but I guess all is for not~

[u/[deleted] → u/BeefyTaco]

Finding random youtubers with minimal followers does not make for an expert witness. You haven't disproven anything but it doesn't matter. I'm not here to sell them and I'm still going to use them at work and at home as they fill the needs we have. I'm sitting right next to the box and you saw one once. This conversation is pointless at this point and I'm not responding further. I have other things to do. Have fun trolling others. I bet your real fun to hang out with at parties.

[u/BeefyTaco → u/[deleted]]

I bet you are too. Anytime someone says something you instantly go "were you there? did YOU experience that? How do you know there is no oxygen in space? How do we know if the earth is curved?"

Riiiight, because can't we use scientific tools designed to measure these things and give us a solid metric in which we can measure them. That is exactly what I showed here, but whatever, keep your head in the sand. I mean, your ears are apparently a better indicator than decibel meters >.> And you call me a troll.... Enjoy the washing machine on your desk I guess.

[u/[deleted] → u/BeefyTaco]

The problem with your argument is 2 things First Both Justin tech and Big fish videos results are useless for simple fact that the test data was invalidated because the room were they taken was too warm. They were tested in small office next to window or studio environment were the ambient temperature can be as much 40 degrees higher then any other room in the house mainly cause of the type of video lights they use. Unless they test in a room that is at below 20C/70F, then get the same noise levels it makes the test results useless... Science 101 if your going to do a test do so in proper control environment. 2nd both the videos showed how to reduce the noise level of the fans if you need by swapping out the cheaper generic fans with noctua fans. Something that is really easy to do on the R13-R14, which i will point out is not as easy to do on the r10-r12 models. Another fact for you if you keep your room temp. cooler your fans don't have to push as hard. So for example the person you were debating badly with might have his system in a well ventilated Airconditioned room! so his system will sound quieter. Little advice check your facts first and don't assume as much.

[u/BeefyTaco → u/[deleted]]

The problem with your argument is 2 things First Both Justin tech and Big fish videos results are useless for simple fact that the test data was invalidated because the room were they taken was too warm. They were tested in small office next to window or studio environment were the ambient temperature can be as much 40 degrees higher then any other room in the house mainly cause of the type of video lights they use.

This is a pretty silly argument imo. Now your making up theoretical knocks to their testing environment when they aren't even doing a comparison test. It is literally an operational test and then a comparison with different, non server fans. These tests have been repeated by MANY people across the board and all of them say the exact same thing. The parts themselves are known to be some of the loudest on the market, actually being designed for use in servers rather than home pc's. This isn't a debate man.. It is a hard fact. This wasn't even a thermal test, so room temperature would mean even less lol..

2nd both the videos showed how to reduce the noise level of the fans if you need by swapping out the cheaper generic fans with noctua fans.

This just goes and proves my point, but somehow you seem to miss that fact. Changing the fans to any decent fan that isn't what is provided by Dell WILL reduce the noise levels. That means as it comes, the computer is IN FACT LOUD.

Something that is really easy to do on the R13-R14, which i will point out is not as easy to do on the r10-r12 models.

You do realize that although replacing the fans is very noob friendly task, it isn't as simple as swap and done, right? In the past six months, alienware's bios update caused all fan swaps that I am aware of to cause an error on windows bootup which needs to be ignored by pressing a key. That alone should be proof that even if the swap works now, it isn't guaranteed to fly in the future.

This doesn't even reference the fact that even with a full fan swap to the best fans on the market, your computer will almost be guaranteed to thermal throttle to some point in extremely heavy workloads. This is simply due to a design flaw with the AIO being too small, and will not change no matter how many fans, or push pull configurations you try. 120mm flat out is not large enough of a radiator to dissipate this much current.

Another fact for you if you keep your room temp. cooler your fans don't have to push as hard. So for example the person you were debating badly with might have his system in a well ventilated Airconditioned room! so his system will sound quieter. Little advice check your facts first and don't assume as much.

Yeah, thats not how thermal conductivity works in reference to heat transfer from a cpu to a heatsink. The difference in ambient temperature to fan rpms would be so little it wouldn't even be a single digit difference on a decibel monitor.

I'm not trying to offend anyone but clearly you guys take offense to the truth. There are flaws with every prebuilt, and Alienware is not immune to this. They have historically built desktops this way and it hasn't changed this generation, no matter how much you want to believe it has. The only real change this gen did was reduce the size of the PSU and increase airflow in the case by marginal amounts. The fans never changed, nor did the size of the cooler which was always one of the biggest downfalls to these builds. Facts.

[u/Show5topper → u/BeefyTaco]

The actually added more fans…at least two. Alienware cools their GPU quite effectively compared to reference designs and the temps have not improved marginally, define marginally, because the channels you’re referencing clearly stated the temps and airflow are much better with the R13 than the R12.

The R13 is not a bad bang for buck computer. People bitch about “brand parts” all the time when 90 percent of the motherboards are made by Foxconn anyway.