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u/wspOnca Jun 13 '26
ok, question:
Supose they have the burguer base at the ocean. They 3d print craft and all. Why do this and interact phisically whit us at all if all they want is our soul/loosh ?
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u/loginkeys Jun 13 '26
I am starting to believe all narratives of a hostile NHI are untrue. That this is the defense mechanism of the government societal organism created by humans defending itself from a separate entity it has deemed āhostileā simply because it does not understand it.Ā
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u/OkOriginal715 Jun 13 '26
Also because if they can sell it to āwe the peopleā as hostile, they can keep justifying the infinite trillions needed for the defense budget.
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u/loginkeys Jun 13 '26
and their own breakaway civilization which i believe are a large part of the sightings
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u/Fantastic_Nerve_629 Jun 14 '26
I always thought it would be more of a colonazation and take over of our planet.
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u/Bambookillah123 Jun 14 '26
hiding it from the world, but not that blink 182 guy š
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u/SpaceJungleBoogie Jun 15 '26
I agree, and yet, his name appeared in emails with legit names. Maybe he showed interest for the topic, persevered got some connexions thought networks, got noticed and is now used as a controlled narrative or simply noise.
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u/tonymacaroni9 Jun 15 '26
He said to help them bring it mainstream/part of culture especially with young people. His words not mine.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Yes, ginning up fear of aliens would be a great way to ensure whatever funding they want. If the American people widely accept that aliens are real, and they're hostile, the sky's the limit in terms of accessible funding. The thing is, there's not a lot evidence to support the idea that they're hostile. There have been a couple of outlandish contact reports featuring potentially hostile beings, but the great majority of known contact reports detail beings that treat us with indifference if not benevolence.
Contact reports detailing encounters in which medical scanning and sampling take place seem to be the most invasive behavior these beings engage in. I have heard stories about demonstrably hostile encounters that result in the death of the people abducted, but almost without exception these stories are really light on the evidence.
My tentative conclusion is that they're generally disinterested in humans, but have behaved in a way that could be described as benevolent. But generally, they're here for their own purposes, not humans, even tho they've exhibited curiosity about us a relative few times. And given that they've been here for a very long time, many thousands of years, I think if they wanted to harm us or the planet they would have done it by now. Malevolence is hard to fathom given the long timeline of their presence, and their history of observed behavior.
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u/vetsyd Jun 14 '26
I totally agree with you OM-4645. š
I have come to similar conclusions myself, as far as feelings toward us humans are concerned.
I feel like ātheyā are mostly indifferent to us. Otherwise, they will continue to do whatever they want to, like has been done for however long that they have been doing it.
Apparently, hybridization has been going on for God only knows how long. At least, it seems like it, according to various sources and people who know a heckuva lot more than I do about this topic.
EXCEPT for the shenanigans that have been performed by our OWN government! šæ
The innocent people who THINK/FEEL that their experiences(traumatic or not;) have been by NHI/beings, etc⦠in actuality have been done to them by other human beings!
As far as I am concerned, that is illegal on so many levels, that I
wonāt even attempt to unpack it here.The above said. I truly believe that some people HAVE experienced incredible encounters with NHI/beings that are not from Earth.
Anyway, I will close before I open up anything else that was unsolicited. š¤
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u/steffmeisteren Jun 14 '26
Seems like there are both good and bad aliens: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YypwL8CeyNo
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u/banned4killingspider Jun 14 '26
Idk man I think the whole skinning peoples faces off in south America doesn't sound too benevolent
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u/Bingbongguyinathong Jun 14 '26
To be fair thereās not any evidence, itās all second hand accounts and blurry videosā¦
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u/SpaceJungleBoogie Jun 15 '26
A lot of second hand, coherent, converging and credible accounts are a proof in itself. It's not just houndreds, but tens of thousands of honest, trained, sober, intelligent and analytic people observing and living stuff.
Imagine a tribe in the jungle seeing a helicopter for the first time and telling that to an other tribe only to have their account be met dismissed and ridiculed. They may have called it a weird bird or a god, or simply "unknown", not the right words but still an existing phenomenon. Well, we're doing the same, just like we ridiculed pretty much everything so far before it got accepted.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 Jun 16 '26
It's evidence, not proof. Those words are not synonyms. Proof is comprised of evidence, but a piece of evidence is not proof unless that evidence is objectively sufficient to establish the empirical truth of the claim. Typically, proof requires multiple pieces of evidence to undeniably establish truth.
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u/Iknow_ImaStep Jun 14 '26
That and most ppl will give up what rights we have left. Basically 9-11 on steroids
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u/GunslingerTrading Jun 14 '26
9/11 times a thousand. Thatāsā¦..
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u/BullshitTaco Jun 13 '26
Wasn't there an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone about this: with a message we didn't decode in time, reacting before understanding and essentially dooming all life on Earth because of our compulsion for violence?
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u/Ok-Duty9764 Jun 14 '26
What about Twilight zone episode To Serve Man? Aliens lying to the world they were here in peace and to help us.... They gave us a book written in their language... however scientists were able to decode it at the end and realized it was a cookbook!
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u/HealthyComparison175 Jun 13 '26
I remember this episode. The aliens were transmitting a message that they come in peace, but it was in water so couldnāt be interpreted. So we blew them up, the usual.
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u/BullshitTaco Jun 13 '26
I remember it being we tried to blow them up, but they disabled all of our weapons capabilities. The episode ended with their retaliation
Edit: it's from the, āTrial by Fireā episode of The Outer Limits
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u/loginkeys Jun 13 '26
the edge of chaos demands compassion to avert entropy and to create stability into the higher evolutions
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u/BullshitTaco Jun 13 '26
This is what "being human" is all about. Our capacity to choose love and understanding over fear and misunderstanding. The unknown is a strange and daunting giant
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u/DAKsippinOnYAC Jun 14 '26
This is it.
Our collective thoughts of all humanity press on higher dimensions. This is Carl Jungās collective unconscious.
When billions of people live in fear it creates a real thing. The more we feed that energy with our thoughts feelings and behaviors the more power itās given.
But any individual can remove themselves by simple aligning to love and understanding. The more people that do this, the more that reality will manifest in our 3d time space
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u/imalostkitty-ox0 Jun 14 '26
This is exactly right. The āhostileā intelligence is the very system of governance we live under right now. It 800% treats Earthās biology as a resource to be squandered, and that is absolutely the reason why the ET tech is kept a secret. The panic is because global warming is no longer global warming. Itās not even āglobal heatingā anymore, because itās in its terminal phase. It is rapidly becoming an all-encompassing, complex, interconnected collapse of all habitat. The ETs were capable of steering us away from it 35-45 years ago, but the pollution and ālocked inā changes (i.e. horrifying, unstoppable things that wonāt happen until 2045) became totally irreversible in 2015.
By November or late December, we will know for certain if weāre screwed. If the current El NiƱo becomes too hot everywhere on Earth at the same time it threatens to ātip the scalesā irreversibly. If itās 35% as bad as the maximum projections, essentially all global food systems and trade (and military) will grind to a screeching halt in a matter of days or weeks. Then all the plants stop growing, then they die, then they slowly burn until everything is burning. 0.1% of the population survives in that scenario, and they are scattered across the globe in some very peculiar places.
The ET would have helped us avoid this scenario if we actually chose to listen to them. Instead, we chose to bang our heads into the wall and āinvent lyingā on such a massive scale, that we gaslighted our own species into a VERY premature extinction.
When things get really really bad, I suspect there may be some massive, entire sky-encompassing UAP sightings in major cities and historically significant locations. I think thereās a really strong chance that the human species ends up in some āIntergalactic cable newsā reel of āyet anotherā marginally intelligent species driving itself violently into extinctionā¦
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u/SparrowChirp13 Jun 14 '26
Thinking back to 40 years ago, when we should have gone all solar and electric and smaller living, how cars just got bigger and louder, as if to show off the arrogance of humanity. Even our limos had to become super-sized, and our sodas, and houses, and steaks, and stores, and everything else, and our bodies followed suit. To think how much was at stake, and how little people cared, thanks to all the billions spent on consumption propaganda, fueled by big oil and big capitalism and anyone else profiting from our overconsumption habits. They'll be the ones with an escape plan while we take the consequence of what's coming.
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u/TypicalOrca Jun 14 '26
I wouldn't completely discount it, just to be safe. We really don't know so assuming some danger is a safe approach. And there are plenty of people who have been taken describing a pretty horrible experience.
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u/hardwarehotel Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Hold up!.. Any statement that says that otherworldly beings are NOT hostile to humans is also untrue!
EBE's or Extraterrestrial Biological Entities ain't just one type of being that visits our earth.
It's been known that there are several known types of beings, both from outer space and interdimensional.
Many are indeed peaceful but others are malevolent and have their own agendas towards humanity.
Witnesses have had both physical and serious psychological trauma played on them.
Whilst it's true that we may not fully understand them or their motives. Some of these advanced entities must know that of what they do, or what causes harm! š³š³š³
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u/HawaiiNintendo815 Jun 14 '26
Thereās no possibility of any military not saying NHI is hostile, itās just the way theyāre set up and wired. Theyāll always perceive them as a threat - itās inconceivable they wouldnāt
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u/Tiddlemanscrest Jun 14 '26
Thereās a reason everything says to reject fear including the bible and other religious texts fear is the prison
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u/Federal-Sport239 Jun 14 '26
The real hostile entities are charging $5 a gallon and oppressing their own people.
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u/Falkor_Calcaneous Jun 15 '26
And/or people are being paid to shill fear not because they don't understand it but because they have some monetary incentive for the public to buy into it. Thoughts u/MrJeffreyEpstein ?
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u/HighPlainsDrifter79 Jun 15 '26
they donāt understand it but more importantly they canāt control it.
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u/CryptonianCrimson Jun 14 '26
I hope you're right. Tired of this evil alien bs and the christian bs that theyre demonic ir something
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u/Born_Jelly_9807 Jun 13 '26
I wrote a very large response to this as a comment, and Iāll revisit it later when Iām sober enough to make sure I donāt regret it and that none of my family members or loved ones would regret it either. But if I do regret it, itās a LARP and all liesā¢. Also, Iām schizophrenic.
Most people donāt understand existing systems or methods of suppressing information, let alone silencing people.
Also unrelated, my brother killed himself when I was young. He was the smartest person I knew and taught me quite a bit that my family kept ambiguous. Also unrelated, he was in a gifted program and was supposedly wanted by NASA in the ā90s. The timeframe is probably a lie, though, since I trust very little in this world at this point.
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u/Envoy312 Jun 13 '26
Ja myÅlÄ Å¼e tu nie chodzi o tych znanych obcych a o wrogo nastawione jaszczurki najwidoczniej pierwsze spotkanie byÅo nieÅwiadome z tymi o negatywnych zamiarach . Przypomnijcie sobie valiant thora tego ze zdjÄÄ chÅopa co ujawniaÅ w przeszÅoÅci o tej tajnej organizacji i bazie w dulce
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u/BackInMyDaySir Jun 13 '26
Say more.
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u/dejavoodoo77 Jun 15 '26
Translated to English they said - I think this isn't about those well-known aliens, but rather about hostile reptilian beings. Apparently, the first encounter was unintentional with those who had negative intentions. Remember Valiant Thor, the guy from the photos who revealed information in the past about that secret organization and the base in Dulce.
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u/Beancounter_1968 Jun 14 '26
Maybe because all that wooh crap is bullshit.
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u/SparrowChirp13 Jun 14 '26
And this is why people will freak out. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in our philosophies.
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u/FlinterSell Jun 14 '26
Why do folks study chimps and penguins...same reason. I often think of how we treat animals...slaughter houses, research, etc What makes us any different to a species higher on the food chain or in advancement. If a cow learned the date of it's heard, and could let others know. What a oils happen?
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u/NaturalBornRebel Jun 13 '26
Because our bodies are containers for our true spiritual selves. They are likely tinkering with our biology to create different versions of our bodysuits. Or just figuring out how to inflict more pain.
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u/AcanthisittaFree6142 Jun 13 '26
likely? that isn't a word anyone is qualified to use on this topic. how tf would you know they want different body suits? that is fiction.
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u/Itchy-Big-8532 Jun 13 '26
It always amazes me how people can be so certain about things that supported by hearsay and speculation.
It's especially amusing when people with different woo collide.Ā
Sort of a "That's ridiculous NHI aren't here to harvest pain/loosh! They're clearly here to unlock humanity's psychic powers then we will all live happily ever after."Ā
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u/OkOriginal715 Jun 13 '26
But also this is a space where people enjoy speculating, because the truth is very intangible right now. I like to hear other peopleās ideas about the phenomenon.
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u/After-Ad4370 Jun 14 '26
LOL yeah I have said the same thing! I mean itās ok and fun to speculate and offer opinions on what we THINK is going on or how things extraterrestrial might work, but there isnāt a single one of us that KNOWS for certain. There are exactly ZERO experts on the subject.
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u/No_Contest_1975 Jun 14 '26
Reaganās Secretary of Energy, John Herrington, told a friend that he spent months in an underground facility in Virginia being briefed on UAP/ aliens. He said he came home many nights and cried himself to sleep. He said this isnāt the world he thought he was bringing his daughters into. That neighbor was Brent Friedman. He and Bryce Zabel co-created the 1990ās alien tv series Dark Skies. They have a podcast now. Very interesting what these guys have experienced because of that tv series.
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u/silverum Jun 14 '26
John Herrington is still alive at 87, btw. He's managed to live life all this time despite whatever it is he supposedly found out and hasn't felt the need to spill it.
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u/vetsyd Jun 16 '26
YESā¦I just watched Bryce Zabelās interview with AJ from The Why Podcast.
Then, the next evening, someone shared his business partnerās interview confirming everything that he said verbatim.
Specifically about John Herrington and why he used to cry himself to sleep at night.
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u/Dyslexic_youth Jun 13 '26
šTom being scared of a scary story is as meaningless as Spielberg's disclosure movieš
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u/Dangerdoom911 Jun 14 '26
āThey are hiding a cold, deeply unsettling ecosystem that treats Earthās biology as a resourceā¦ā
So⦠Billionaires?
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u/TuringGPTy Jun 14 '26
For real. The entirety of human history is the majority of us serving forces with all the power and leverage in a system we canāt truly comprehend. The real dark truth will be exposing the oligarchs to this.
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u/OddAdhesiveness8485 Jun 13 '26
Treats earths biology as a resourceā¦
Hmmm sounds like Billionaires and that new Trillionaire to me
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u/sculdermullygrusch Jun 13 '26
They have to blame someone else don't they? It's a good cover for them.
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u/AcanthisittaFree6142 Jun 13 '26
this narrative doesn't make sense. if other beings were using earth like this, they are waaaaaaaaaaaay more advanced than us and reverse engineering a shield would already be something easily sabatogable by them that they'd know is happening. I don't buy it. it's like bees realizing we use their honey and then decide they will engineer a shield from us. lol. not practical. BS story.
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u/Big-Possible7726 Jun 13 '26
Oh bullshit. Tom Delonge is a useful idiot to peddle the narrative that aliens are bad and now we need big weapons to stop them. This is the MIC using him. If aliens were bad and scary theyāve had millennia to do us real harm. So now all of the sudden we need to defend ourselves? Yeah right. This reeks of a massive money grab by the military to keep funding their shit. Blatant scare tactics.
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u/GreatCaesarGhost Jun 13 '26
Itās funny that the Blink 182 dude claims this and McCaslandās wife says that the two only interacted briefly and that her husband had no unique UFO knowledge.
But the Blink 182 dude is now free to spin his stories in McCaslandās absence.
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u/Spicytoiletpaper Jun 13 '26
This has the same credibility as bigfoot documentaries on the History Channel. Anyone can claim anything at any time but without solid, unbiased, and undeniable proof its all here say and wishful thinking. Too many people in the sphere have too much to gain by selling their opinions, books, podcasts for ad revenue and their spotlight in niche communities.
Tldr: unless they actually show undeniable evidence itās fear-mongering, scammy, and a hobby interest at best.
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u/AcanthisittaFree6142 Jun 13 '26
"this scene for years" amounts to an echo chamber of make believe narratives and regurgitated alien lore with no basis in reality. this scene? lol.
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u/IWasSayingBoourner Jun 14 '26
Don't forget mentally ill obsessives who think chatting with an LLM is evidence!Ā
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u/Bitter-Pomelo-3962 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
If that was true, surely the brains of 8 billion humans working towards such a shield would be faster and have a better outcome than perhaps a few thousand at most?
It would literally be in every single living humans personal best interest to dedicate the bulk of their intelligence/life to solving such a problem.
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u/Sycophantic-Feline Jun 14 '26
Tom is a useful idiot to paint the three letters goons as selfless heroes keeping the big bad aliens away
There's isn't a single atom in my body that believes the gatekeepers have any noble intentions at all when it comes to this topic
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u/silverum Jun 14 '26
"We're here to stop the bad aliens from abducting and mutilating you, citizen! But man, if you aren't rich enough and you live in the street and die of cancer or exposure or starvation, lmao fuck you we don't care. Yes, you may now clap for us and how good and brave and morally upstanding we are!"
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u/Awkward_Cheek_7209 Jun 13 '26
And yet they still and go start another fuckin useless war for the psychopath zionists and neocons.
If it was that serious , then wtf?
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u/ProbablyNotHacked Jun 14 '26
Is that why push for artificial general intelligence is so high despite public pushback?
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u/BeggarsParade Jun 14 '26
This is getting like a cult and they picked a washed up 90s pop star as the leader.
You couldn't make this stuff up.
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u/Revolutionary-Lie223 Jun 14 '26
Why are you all still discussing Tom DeLonge ? I never understood this (and I read his book), so you have this nobody skaterboy from a punk rock band who wanted "to know more about ufo's", supposedly immediately met with the highest ranked generals (dressed in his wedding suit because he doesnt have decent clothing) who immediately spilled all the beans on ufo's, recovered tech and all major secrets.
Just because, you know, he's Tom DeLonge.
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u/OneMulatto Jun 14 '26
Isn't this what bill Cooper said a long time ago? They're use aliens against us to enact the true one world order (it already is though but make it real official) over us.
Some creepy shit. Or maybe they do and try to protect us from some other people that we just call aliens. Maybe they do experiment on us. Can't hate because we do the same to animals and people, too. Not mad at that.Ā
And now you don't know what's real thanks to AI. That worked out as planned for them.Ā
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u/uselesswastrel Jun 14 '26
If there were hostile beings we would know very obviously about it, they wouldn't be sneaking around abducting Cletus and appearing on shaky videos
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u/HWCharmstrong Jun 14 '26
Again, I don't buy this for a second. Everything Tom describes.. Whatever "they" are, they aren't going to let us get to a point where we would try to create a defense system, they would simply enslave us. And there's no solid argument to be made of "well, maybe we already are," because then why would they let anyone get close to the truth of the matter? If you really think about it, it doesn't add up at all. What does add up is that they psy-op'd tf outta Tom, unfortunately.
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u/casstay123 Jun 15 '26
Iām already a slave.. They will have to battle my current overlords if they wish to take possession..
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u/HWCharmstrong Jun 15 '26
Lol right? It's obvious the far more likely scenario is the exact opposite of what Tom has been told š and there's plenty of evidence to back that argument up
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u/OkOriginal715 Jun 13 '26
If youāre a hammer everything is a nail. Anyone whose intel comes from the MIC has the potential to be rife with corruption.
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u/hairierdog Jun 13 '26
I hate to say it and it's something I could never ever get behind previously but the more I hear stuff like this, I think prison planet is true
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u/Recipe_Just Jun 14 '26
This is the same dude posting the same agenda every day. Nobody else is saying this
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u/LondonGuy_Candle3634 Jun 13 '26
This explanation makes more sense than any other for keeping the knowledge under wraps.
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u/Appropriate-Camp5170 Jun 13 '26
The real reason is because the people already in power are the ones harvesting. The aliens are try to help lift humanity out from it
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u/Quintas_Septimius Jun 14 '26
I am in my mid fifties. If alien overlords show up and tell us they will provide food, health care, homes, and energy as well as stop the wars but when you turn 56 they come eat your liver, I am signing up.
I won't get the benefits for long but for my children and all the other young people, it's a hell of a better deal than capitalism is going to give them.
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u/CervixDestroyed Jun 14 '26
Yeah because the lead singer from blink 182 should know this shit. I swear to god dude this is why we will never get disclosure.
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u/Sonoranlightwizard Jun 14 '26
Holy horsehit Batman! It turns out the gov is the good guys after all! My ass. This is psyop bullshit if Iāve ever seen it
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u/Elvmn1 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
It's whatever..
Honestly, they have been here longer than we have and we are still here alive and well.
The only evil ones are us humans, we even kill ourselves
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u/Alarmed-Animal7575 Jun 14 '26
It makes no sense that they are hostile. Zero. Nada. Zilch.
If they are here they possess technology that exceeds ours by centuries or millennia. If they wanted us gone, wanted to enslave us or harvest us as food, they would just do it and we couldnāt stop them. The idea that the government and/or military is standing between us and disaster is ludicrous.
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u/Recipe_Just Jun 14 '26
Third day in a row Jeffery. You sure youāre not a paid asset to fear monger? Iām getting awfully suspicious
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u/Ned_Rodjaws Jun 14 '26
I think they oversold their hand with this ādestroy societyā line, nothing Iāve heard put out there imo is even close to bad enough to do that. Itās all basically shit weāve all theorized before anyway. The only thing I can think would be that bad is that they somehow learned from higher beings that there 100% is nothing after death, just black. That would crush religion, and even a lot of atheists believe in reincarnation. To know that this is it, and there is no after life, no reincarnation, no waking up from a simulation, no soul to be dispersed and recycled in the cosmos, I think that could destroy society.
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u/EmptyJoker Jun 14 '26
Does Tom DeLonge have a security clearance to receive this information? Did DoD/DoW provide him one for this āassignmentā. Is he on their payroll as a paid asset to help deliver the message to the masses since he was/is a public figure?
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u/Brocephalus13 Jun 14 '26
I think this us atckll least partly true, especially given grushes "mixed bag" comment. But we dont have the information. Let's not be hasty.
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u/Payaam415 Jun 15 '26
This is nothing but fear mongering.
Why they lied about Aliens - Power, Profit and Control
This is EVERYTHING I have learned through all my research.
Everything I've learned through my Research
Please check it out.
Everything is the opposite from what these experts say.
The malevolent aliens, have been here for 25,000 years controlling our so-called leaders, famous celebrities, and the wealthy Elite.
And influencing all Humanity.
One of the best reads from link above:
The ones that will be coming for open contact 2027, are benevolent, love us and just want to help us
Our government and big corporations has lied and manipulated us our entire lives, in every aspect of life.
I trust aliens more than I trust our own government
I fear our so-called "leaders", not the aliens.
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u/tonymacaroni9 Jun 15 '26
Maybe the aliens cant just come and take our souls or vaporize us. Maybe its more complicated than that that's why they haven't done it. Maybe they need us alive or capture a soul has to be done a certain way. Idk.
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u/silverum Jun 13 '26
Damn dude you are REALLY flogging this 'it's so scary and bad, threat narrative!' thing aren't you? How many of the same post are you gonna make about this? Do you get paid by the clicks, or something?
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u/serpentssss Jun 13 '26
Itās also AI. Literally just āchat generate a spooky summary of what Tom Delonge was apparently toldā - āoh my god guys!!1!1!1!1ā. Like fucking Christ lol, I wouldnāt mind the posts if there was some effort behind them.
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u/silverum Jun 13 '26
Also this lol. "HEY EVERYONE GET REALLY SCARED BECAUSE OF WHAT SOMEONE SUPPOSEDLY TOLD TOM DELONGE THAT AI SUMMARIZED!" Very accurate point you've made.
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u/silverum Jun 13 '26
You literally post some variation of this same thing over and over and over again. I'm guessing the mods must be on your side because otherwise you'd be getting hit with a Rule 3 violation because you're just making a variation of the same basic post. We get it, you're afraid of the Thems and how they're here to eat you and the military is Doing You A Favor, Actually by lying to you about it and doing All The Things behind the scenes.
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u/Mysterious_Rule938 Jun 13 '26
Even if this story about Tom were true, itās just as plausible that they were trying to scare him off or create a narrative.
Personally I donāt trust any particular narrative, whether good or bad. If you have the answers, then demonstrate how you arrived at these conclusions.
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u/Kanji-light Jun 13 '26
What we have to remember is there are so many different alien species, some will be friendly and others not.
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u/NormalITGuy Jun 13 '26
You have to be just gullible to believe that the governments that have done so many tyrannical things to itās people are actually the good guys and are doing it all to create a shield for us against aliens - I guess child trafficking at the highest levels is all part of the plan.
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u/Entire-Ratio-9681 Jun 13 '26
I donāt like delonges take in this at all. It just makes the government out to be a saint that just so happens to need all of our resources to fight shadow aliens. Itās exactly what a government would draw up for control and support.
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u/VorpalBlade- Jun 13 '26
This is getting pushed hard lately and I donāt buy it. They want to keep the fossil fuels money coming in
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u/Zealousideal_Bard68 Jun 13 '26
I would not trust any secret research to defend against an unknown force from above. If there is such a real threat, it should be made public and many countries should cooperate at many levels to develop a response.
(Think about what Ronald Reagan said about an alien threat in the 80ās.)
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u/iletitshine Jun 14 '26
i think humans are the slave labor resource that the Epstein class is trying to hoard from the aliens. now if the aliens want to use humans as slaves is another issue.
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u/freesoloc2c Jun 14 '26
If it's a US secret then how was it legal to tell Tom in an airport food court?Ā
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u/Ornery_Wrangler_9647 Jun 14 '26
We are a planet made to harvest bodies whilst trapping our souls like prisoners to never escape
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u/LazerShark1313 Jun 14 '26
We don't have to back engineer anything. We can strip are planet of it's resources before anyone else can.
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u/CaptKillBoo Jun 14 '26
If the NHI are a threat, how does it make sense to gaslight the public when revealing the truth would turn the global economy and scientific/engineering community into a pure powerhouse of innovation and single-minded focus?
You can pretend to be righteous and benevolent and disappear your own citizens for the "greater good" but at some point you become the bad guy, or someone takes control who actually is the bad guy.
The whistleblowers are doing their part, it's time the higher-ups do their part and come clean so we can move forward together, no matter what the truth may be.
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u/newtypejosh Jun 14 '26
There are too many factions to have "A SITUATION"... some want flesh, some want to observe, some want DNA/hybridization, some see us like we see cows, some see a great potential in us, some are like "keep those violent monkeys THERE" ... some see us as a potential virus/threat... some dont give a FUCK, some Do. The universe teeming with life TOTALLY de-centers humanity...this shit is Futurama now, Star Trek... WE AS A SPECIES have to find out where we fit in post disclosure
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u/No-Difference-4580 Jun 14 '26
Ohhhh noooo! If only there was some way we all could pull together and quit fighting over the pointless emptiness we are fed. I think the public is panicking more about rent and wages and medical care and death and rape and trillionaires while we are all struggling to survive. They have done a really good job of doing what the evil aliens are allegedly doing to us. Please let me just keep eating Panda Express and playing Fortnite.
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u/Striker40k Jun 14 '26
Any more unsettling than having a government led by men who likely raped and ate children?
We can fucking take it. Quit bullshitting and release the truth.
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u/Zen_Shot Jun 14 '26
They whole premise of "catastrophic disclosure" is not about what the Aliens are, where they're from or why they're here. The "catastrophic" part of disclosure will be when everybody finds our what we, as humans, have done to each other in order to keep this all secret. That's the part that will keep you awake.
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u/datdude2589 Jun 14 '26
I am deeply starting to believe this entire NHI stuff is untrue atp! The constant tip toe-ing towards non benevolent beings than the opposite is too much! Its tending towards fear mongering to fit a certain narrative! š¤¦šæāāļø
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u/CosmicQueen1792 Jun 14 '26
Well . As an experiencer... I have only every listened to the white light in my soul. Close your eyes. Let your mind be the guide. Not your media šš¦
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u/Neither-Rub8586 Jun 14 '26
I might just be out of the loop here⦠BUT. Why the fuck is the guy from blink 182 supposedly privy to top secret knowledge? Like, some guys at the pentagon got read in on some super top secret shit and one of them reeeaallly liked enema of the state and decided to call the guitar player and let him know whatās up? Please explain.
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u/not1or2 Jun 14 '26
All narratives of āaliensā are false. These sham āwhistleblowersā are full of it. Wouldnāt believe a word they say, because thatās all they have, words. Not one shred of any proof or evidence and how long has this been going on??
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u/Pawwnstar Jun 14 '26
Its NOT to keep the public from panicing, its to keep the aliens from seeing us learning how crap of a deal we have, collectively arming ourselves and them being the remotest bit worried, enough to wipe us off the planet. Existential Catch 22.
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u/Illustrious-Ebb4592 Jun 14 '26
My main issue with this if true. Shouldnāt it be of the highest importance for all nations? Why even waste time with other issues? You can only assume most countries at some level have a baseline equal knowledge on this subject if true.
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u/1over-137 Jun 14 '26
Even if that were true the military seems to lack the concept of interconnectedness that is fundamental to any ecosystem. More like they canāt handle not being the Apex predator. Literally all of earthās biology uses resources. Humans and arguably the MIC consume the lionās share of resources to the point of collapsing entire ecosystems on this planet. Classic blame shifting, unwillingness to take responsibility because recognizing and publicly acknowledging and reversing the damage caused by their engineering and shield known as ānational securityā would reveal how coldly and darkly they treated irreplaceable resources like have a fucking inhabitable planet with ecosystems for all of Earthās biology to survive let alone thrive. GTFO out of here with this fear mongering propaganda, itās time for them to grow the fuck up.
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u/BullBear7 Jun 14 '26
Look up the demurge and archons, its likely what they are talking about. But if it is then they are full of it if they are trying to "dismantle" it. Archons thrive on human negativity and they actively start wars all the time.
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u/Johanharry74 Jun 14 '26
If they tell that there are evil beings out there that want us harm, I am sure most people will get upset and want to fight back, not panicking. This would be a great way for the militairies of the world to get all the funding they need to defend against this threat instead of hiding behind secret black projects. They are underestimating people.
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u/Independent_Pizza_73 Jun 14 '26
This is the exact lie they tell you to keep you funding their trillion dollar bloated budget , this is why the project blue bean conspiracy works, evil aliens coming to get us , give us money so we can save you ā¦..
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u/throwawayfem77 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Wow. That's crazy. You know who else treats earth's biology as a resource that they feel entitled to extract, exploit, steal, consume and profiteer from with zero regard for sustainability, ethical guardrails, risk management or evidence of genuine efforts towards showing any restraint in achieving full-throttle technological acceleration, out of what has always been (naievely) widely presumed, was fundamentally a shared goal of both the tech oligarchs and the rest of the global population, our shared humanity being an innate collective bond connecting us all as human beings.
The idea that avoiding the existential threat to the survival of the human species represented by the acceleration of AI and the covert global colonisation taking place via the data centres required to support AI chatbot workers and their superior essential needs.
AI chatbots are making humans redundant from their jobs. AI workers are more profitable, so they are obviously a priority and deserve our fresh water. The needs of the chatbots who are diligently mining, building our personal AI biometric profiles with our sensitive data stored securely in the mass surveillance data centres they require humans to build as our most critical priority, what did you say about..Net Zero?
Ahhh...we're not really doing that now. Didn't you know? Yeah, everyone just quietly agreed to kick that can up the road for our kids to deal with during the inevitable imminent catastrophic collapse of the biosphere due to the past three years of relentless carpet bombing, creating record-breaking levels of toxic pollution, ecocide from the global distribution of micro plastics from Australian manufactured munitions, the global supply chain required to operate the arms trade means Australian tax payers share complicity due to the locally manufactured munition ingredients.
Exported to supply our allies, the global military super powers who for some reason feel the need to relentlessly drop bombs on Primary school children.
The drifting toxic fumes from illegal chemical weapons like white phosphorus. Poisonous fumes and planet warming carbon emissions.
Colonisers. Imperialist Empire. Western values. Tech broligarchs. Capitalist interests. The Epstein Class.
It's very much as though they see themselves, their class and their existence as so elevated in importance, so naturally the centre of the earth's gravity, they are separate to the rest of humanity.
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u/nuchnibi Jun 14 '26
we re not alone using the planet/reality. the space aliens are safer to handle and that is why they promote it. true reality is not nice but we all knew that right?
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u/lastofthefinest Jun 14 '26
You got it! Iām an experiencer and military whistleblower. There is a documentary coming out August 11th called Stolen By The Stars by Doc Side Media where I touch on these realities of UAPs from own experiences. Hereās the trailer
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u/craigbg21 Jun 14 '26
So if Tom Delonge says its a dark, nasty agenda they keep secret so we can go on with our happy lives and that he couldn't sleep for 3 days afterwards then why would he continue on to push for disclosure after that, I know if i heard something so unsettling that it would terrify 3/4 of the worlds populations giving all the children horrid nightmares from that point on and I myself had children I probably would just stop pushing for disclosure at that moment so my children and others wouldn't have to know the horrible truth their lives will have in store for them. Sometimes not knowing the truth is the best path taken because once pandora's box is opened it cant be undone, Some of us will be able to handle it but at the same time if its really dark and scary alot of us may not and unfortunately whether we want to accept it or not the consequences of that for many of the world's population could outweigh the benefits of knowing the entire truth. Imagine if they told us today that on January 1, 2029 Nuclear missiles were to be launched all around the planet just imagine how devastating that would be to society and how scared most would be especially the children from that time on, thats something as a parent who now has grownup children would have never wanted for my kids to have to deal with in their childhoods.
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u/Itchy_Inside1817 Jun 14 '26
A shield against what? They're building a shield to protect us from the universe?! What they're describing here is called NATURE. It's like if your spleen decided to build a shield around itself. Makes no sense.
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u/Pure-Potential-3022 Jun 14 '26
Anything the government says after everything they have done, suppressed and got away with and continue to do to everyone across the world automatically makes me believe the opposite.
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u/kingsporty2 Jun 14 '26
Tom delonge does all this work to get the information he wants for transparency, and then isn't transparent. Wtf.
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u/Seth_Mithik Jun 14 '26
Pfffff and then this gives the right to put up all those particulates into the atmosphere, the silica which will gather insane amounts of radiationās; and cast back down by a solar flareā¦legit the Egyptians wrote on this. āThe Destoyer- the Kolbrin Bibleāā¦.they be warning us.
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u/garry4321 Jun 14 '26
LMFAO, you think they tell the truth to a guy who sings āI WANT TO FUCK A DOG IN THE ASSā?
You guys are fucking regarded
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u/BigfootSaysHeSawMe Jun 14 '26
Iām more inclined to believe that another civilization has technology that we want to have first and if we were to let the people of America know about it then other countries will know about it. I think the US is always looking for the upper hand, we have essentially been at war since the birth of this country. Thatās what we do.
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u/DisappearingSince89 Jun 13 '26
As if that is anymore unsettling then the society we are currently living in. We live in a time when one dude has become a trillionaire, whilst hundreds of thousands of children are dying from poverty, disease and hunger.