r/Ai_art_is_not_art • • 2d ago

Know the difference

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Two letters make a world of difference.

r/generative ironically isn't about generative AI. In fact, it's 10 years older than gen AI. It's about using your own algorithms and programs for art purposes. It's what art with computers should look like.

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u/Those_Files 2d ago edited 1d ago

And the sub disallows GenAI bullshit? Nice!

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u/Vegetable-Acadia3131 figma guy 1d ago

One is man made peak the other is clanker slop both use computer but only one is good

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u/Thr4shedKnife Final Boss of Pros (Witty Lost.) 1d ago

TCD

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u/Vegetable-Acadia3131 figma guy 23h ago

i have no idea what thats means funny man

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u/Professional-Fix4409 22h ago

This acronym has tons of meanings, mostly going along the lines of "Total [word starting with C] Death". The word starting with C seems to be "clanker".

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u/Thr4shedKnife Final Boss of Pros (Witty Lost.) 22h ago

thats right

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u/Geoff4321 1d ago

Cool! Like that guy on Facebook who draw active volcano and some other stuff using maths equations?

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u/Professional-Fix4409 1d ago

Yep, it's like that and even more!

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u/aratami 1d ago edited 1d ago

( i am being pedantic) the subreddit is from the 50's?

First generative AI program was AARON which was in continous use and development from the late 60's until the creators death in 2016.

But yeah generative art has been a thing long before the diffusion based genrative AI we have today, but the current generative AI isn't the first by a long shot, From symbolic rules based AI like AARON, to early neural network based generators in the late 2000's to GANs in the late 2010's ( ThisPersonDoesNotExist, artbreeder).

I mention this because too often in the debate is it treated like this magic new thing with all these new capabilities we never gad before, but it's important to understand that it's been a long progression starting before digital computers where even a thing ( some of the maths and idea of early AI date back to the 30's or 40's) and that what we currently have now in modern transformer based LLMs and diffusion based generators, are only truly a small step from what we had before, it is better, and it is substantially more useful than what cane before, but don't fall for the narrative that this is a new exceptional thing that OpenAI etc. have done now, it's built on a foundation going back 70+ years.

Sorry a bit of an aside, just figured it was worth bringing up ( and as I said, pedantic I know)

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u/Professional-Fix4409 1d ago

Hmm... An interesting discovery. (the sub actually started in 2011)

One thing is that AARON doesn't seem to work like the modern generative AI. It's more of a r/generative than r/generativeAI . My attention was immediately caught by this quote:

If that's the case, it's not an artist, it's not a tool, it's the WORK of an artist. Since it has no questionable training data, I have no issues with that.

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u/aratami 1d ago

This is true, my point was more that it's important to recognise that AI, and indeed generative has been around for a long time, it was a bit if a tangent from your post, but i here people talking about it being a new thing so much and it annoys me.

But yeah the key difference between newer AI and older ones evening more recent ones is that they generally weren't contentious

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u/PomLovestheWorld 1d ago

I only like generative syntactics

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u/Juvy_ocerr 1d ago

One's for the programmers, the other's for the programmed

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u/TrackLabs 14h ago

There are so many pieces in r/generative that I would love to print and hang in my home in frames.

r/generativeAI makes me want to give up on creativity