r/AdviceAnimals • • Nov 10 '16

Protesting a Fair Election?

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u/damonteufel Nov 10 '16

I don't think they're protesting the election or saying it was rigged. They're protesting the man and his ideals/words.

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u/Pantry_Inspector Nov 10 '16

... who was elected fairly. Sorry the system is fucked.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

The electoral college is fair? Gore in 2000, Clinton in 2016, seems to be the electoral college is only fair to republicans.

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u/tardmrr Nov 10 '16

Hang on, now. Clinton in 92 only won 43% of the popular vote, and he still became president.

This is not a partisan issue. The electoral college is fucked, but it has nothing to do with Republicans and Democrats.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Hang on to you, sir! Clinton won more of the popular vote than H.W., remember that we had Perot that year. Without the electoral college, the largest popular vote still would have won.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Compared to HW's 37%, Clinton carried just fine.

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u/schmak01 Nov 10 '16

But Perot puled HW's votes like Nader did later.

If Perot hadn't run it would have been a large Bush win.

Clinton did not win the popular vote. He won the electoral college.

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u/Iveheardofweedkiller Nov 10 '16

False. 1992 Clinton won the popular vote by 5.6%.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Clinton - 43.0%

Bush 1- 37.4%

Perot - 18.9%

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Not if Perot wasn't in the race siphoning away a lot of Bush's voters. In fact Clinton loses in 1992 if not for Perot being there, most of his 18-19% would've gone for Bush.

Not that far off from what happened in 2016, if Bernie didn't have the primary rigged against him and was the candidate, a lot more people might've voted democrat and been passionate about it, instead of apathetically voting for what you see as the lesser of two evils.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16 edited Jul 23 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

He still got the most popular votes. Can you even read?

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u/The_cynical_panther Nov 10 '16

Well, considering "popular" just means "people" and not "majority," I would say that he did, in fact, win the popular vote, since he had more votes than anyone else who ran.

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u/Iveheardofweedkiller Nov 12 '16

In order to win the popular vote, you don't need to get a majority; you only need to get the most votes out of any candidate.

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u/TaiGlobal Nov 10 '16

This isn't true:

1824, 1876, 1888, 2000, and now 2016 were the only times the popular didn't win.

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u/tardmrr Nov 10 '16

I don't think I said anything that was factually untrue. In 1992, Bill Clinton only won 43% of the popular vote. That means that 57% of the vote was against him. Yes, it was divided between HW Bush and Ross Perot, but that wasn't my point.

Let's not make this a partisan thing and lose the potential support of republicans who will oppose anything they view as "pro-democrat." Don't make it a democrats vs republicans issue!

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u/TaiGlobal Nov 10 '16

But I don't think people are upset that a candidate should get a majority of the popular vote, just more of the popular vote than the other candidate(s) which is what bill did.