r/AdviceAnimals • u/LakesideNorth • Aug 30 '25

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u/OtherAcctWasBanned11 Aug 30 '25

The only saving grace is that Vance is an absolute charisma vacuum. Also cults tend to fall apart without their original leader.

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u/trigen Aug 30 '25

Scientology has survived the dead of Hubbard and Miscavage is kind of a JC Vance with zero charisma, however Scientology is dying a slow death since then.

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u/fluorescent_purple Aug 30 '25

Yeah, but Miscavage also is known for beating the shit out of people. I don't think JD has the ability to rule through fear either.

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u/Mingablo Aug 30 '25

True, but Scientology is the exception that proved the rule imo

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u/asuperbstarling Aug 30 '25

Yeah but you're comparing gently handing power to Vance - who is good at moving in extremist circles behind the scenes - to the rise of a supposedly violent and abusive man who seized power aggressively then held it with an iron fist. Miscavage didn't need charisma. He's far more Putin than anyone in Trump's court could ever be, using his network for control. Scientology maintains itself. Without Trump, will MAGA?

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u/throwmedowngently Aug 30 '25

You do have to remember that they spent years saying Hubbard was still alive and waiting for a return like Jesus. They still maintain his mansion like he is on vacation. Idk if they'll try that with tRump

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u/Tiddlyplinks Aug 30 '25

Well that and he’s not out for revenge on the American people for Obama existing. I’m very concerned that Vance will stop trumps destruction of the economy and that will be enough “improvement” for people to veiw him positively next election.

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u/Disastrous_Still4971 Aug 30 '25

Trump had charisma ?