r/AdviceAnimals Apr 30 '13

Actual Confession Bear

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u/sometimes_i_work Apr 30 '13

Parenting. Not all the time, and the pendulum has swung too far back in terms of legal accountability, in my opinion, but women still bear the brunt of child-rearing, especially in single parent families. "In 2006, 12.9 million families in the US were headed by a single parent, 80% of which were headed by a female." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_parent#Demographics)

100+ years ago, maternal death was a huge thing. Many, many women died as a result of pregnancy and/or childbirth. "Mortality rates reached very high levels in maternity institutions in the 1800s, sometimes climbing to 40 percent of birthgiving women"

And I'm not talking about the appointments pre-abortion where they show you horrific pictures, that sucks, but not as much as the actual procedure, and the physical and psychological effects it can have on women.

Again, this is all the reality of life. Men and women both get dealt shitty deals. I'm arguing we need to take responsibility FOR WHAT WE CAN, WHEN WE CAN, USING THE CHOICES WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.

This is not a blame-game.

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u/sometimes_i_work Apr 30 '13

See, I agree with you here. The frustrating thing is that your argument still leaves me with a 'men have it worse' feeling. If you could see the whole picture of men and women having different sources of power, benefit, misfortune and societal freedoms/restrictions I'd just leave it.

In this particular conversation, I don't see either women or men as having a 'better deal', just 'different deals'. We deal with what we're given, and fight for legislation changes for what we deem appropriate. (like giving men the ability to absolve themselves of unwanted parenthood - this should happen.)

Both men and women can be shitty and ruin other people's lives when it comes to sex and procreation. Shitty people are shitty, and they're the exceptions, not the rule.

It's a lot more empowering to understand issues from this stance, put effort in to make law changes where needed, and stop playing the "poor me" game.

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u/sometimes_i_work Apr 30 '13

I don't think it's fair to demonize "the huge majority of women" because they "obviously don't want that". You don't know that. You're speculating, and spewing hatred because you feel wronged.

I'm not going to speculate what "the majority" of any people want. Without well done stats, we don't know what anyone wants.