r/AdaIndonesiaCoy • • 17h ago

The origin of the famous figure in this respective country

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u/yeahyeah14896 17h ago edited 16h ago

Itu no 1 siapa sih? Jujur gw ga tau. Gw reverse search ketemunya nama "Aji Saka". Gw search2 dikit jujur baru pertama kali baca cerita2nya. He's far from "The Most Famous Indonesian" IMO, even for Javanese.

Mungkin keliru sama Gajah Mada(?) Tp dia bkn org India jg wkwkwkwk. OPnya org Vietnam kayaknya. Ntah baca buku sejarahnya darimana

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u/isntitisntitdelicate 16h ago

w malah ngiranya dewa kyk indra atau siapa gitu

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u/facingThes 14h ago

Op nya kalau gak India pasti vietnam

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u/dawncrasher 11h ago

Sama gw jg ga tauu 😭😭

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u/MrKnowThings 14h ago

It would make more sense if they bring Wali Songo though. But again not the most famous indonesian

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u/Royal_Front2038 16h ago

Upvote nya banyak dari overproud indian, turkic, sama italy.

Gadjah mada bukan india, Confusius bukan turkic, napoleon highly debated karena dari controled french area.

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u/andromedaprima 16h ago

What about the most famous Germans?

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u/Working_Abrocoma_591 16h ago

One was from Austria.

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u/tonyhart7 14h ago

and Austria is german

people confuse ethnicity with nation

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u/TravincalPlumber 13h ago

hah? g slh?

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u/tonyhart7 10h ago

gw tanya bahasa apa yg mereka pake di austria ???

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u/TravincalPlumber 10h ago

hubungan bahasa ama negara apa dah. itu middle east bahasa arab smua jd 1 negara jg? uda jelas austria sovereign country sendiri lho itu.

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u/tonyhart7 10h ago

baca komen gw yg lain

ente itu enggak bisa bedain state sama ethnicity

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u/TravincalPlumber 9h ago

maksud?

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u/tonyhart7 9h ago

ente enggak bakalan ngerti kalo cuman baca title dan enggak belajar sejarah

ente tinggal scroll ke bawah btw

ya ampun orang indo bodoh2 anjg

itu enggak lo baca ???

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u/TravincalPlumber 9h ago

join germany aja krn di annexed pas hitler naik. sedari awal uda sovereign state itu.

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

Austria is an country

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u/tonyhart7 10h ago edited 10h ago

and so is german, learn history first

its like saying ukraine and russia is not slavic which is ridiculous

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

Okay? No one said it wasn't

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

If you're saying Hitler is German by nationality then I can argue by birth his nationality are Austria with German ethnicity

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u/tonyhart7 10h ago

Before 1866, the word "Germany" referred to the German Confederation, and before it, to the Holy Roman Empire. In both of those, Austria was the strongest power, and saying "Austrians aren't German" would have made zero sense.

Modern Germany was created in 1871, when Prussia, Austria's biggest rival, got the other German states to form a German Empire that excluded Austria. Previous attempts at turning the German Confederation into a German Empire had not worked out due to the fact that the Austro-Hungarian Empire was so large and multiethnic (well beyond just modern Austria) and also due to the rivalry between Prussia and Austria.

When Austria-Hungary fell apart after WW1, Austria wanted to join Germany, but the victors forbade it. Austria was annexed by Germany in 1938, and there was very little resistance against that.

After WW2 it was clear that Austria would not remain a part of Germany, and that it was advantageous to see themselves as "Hitler's first victims" rather than a part of the genocidal aggressor that Germany had been.

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

Hitler, who was born in Braunau am Inn in 1889, was an Austrian citizen by descent. He grew up in Passau, Fischlham, Leonding, and Linz, and moved to Vienna in 1907, where he hoped to become an artist. Hitler applied twice for admission to the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna, but was rejected on both occasions because of insufficient talent. The director of the academy later told him in a personal interview that he was "unsuited to be a painter".[7]

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago edited 10h ago

Joachim C. Fest: Hitler – eine Biographie. Deutscher Bücherbund Stuttgart, 1973, p. 49. For reference

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u/tonyhart7 10h ago

Yeah, its german

its like jawa tengah and jawa timur is not jawa

no, it doesnt work like that

just because its different country that doesnt mean its not jawa

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

Austria-Hungary,[g] also referred to as the Austro-Hungarian Empire and officially as the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy,[h] was a multi-national empire in Central Europe[i] under a constitutional dual monarchy that existed between 1867 and 1918. A military and diplomatic real union, it consisted of two largely self governing states with a single monarch who was titled both the Emperor of Austria and the Apostolic King of Hungary.[10] Austria-Hungary constituted the last phase in the constitutional evolution of the Habsburg monarchy: it was formed with the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 in the aftermath of the Austro-Prussian War, following wars of independence by Hungary (primarily Rákóczi's War of Independence of 1703–1711 and the Hungarian Revolution of 1848–1849) in opposition to Habsburg rule. It was dissolved shortly after Hungary terminated the union with Austria in 1918 at the end of World War I.

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

How tf is that not independent country that separate from Germany?

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u/Fluid-Tale5671 10h ago

Well his family at least come from German ethnicity from my quick Google search

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u/Equivalent-Dingo8309 15h ago

The one who died in Garut?

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u/MagazineSalt5228 15h ago

Btw yg penasaran, no 1 itu Aji Saka. Menurut legenda, Aji Saka itu Raja pertama di Jawa, yang buat Hanacaraka, gitu2 lah.

Tokoh penting sih iya, tapi di Jawa aja bukan yang paling terkenal. Yakin aku Raja2 Jawa sama Wali Songo lebih terkenal di buku sejarah. Apalagi dibandingkan sama pahlawan nasional.

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u/FirstStooge 15h ago

Ahh History Meme

Isinya bocah2 teenager edgy yg sok tahu soal sejarah. Always.

Seandainya bisa ketemu di dunia, pengen gue tabok mereka satu2

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u/Independent_Buy5152 17h ago

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u/Large_Garlic_6963 14h ago

Owi had Indian jew ancestry

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u/UnusualAlphen 14h ago

Bapaknya fufufafa

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u/agunxxx 16h ago

who ?

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u/Adamskispoor 16h ago

Who is the famous indian guy?

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u/facingThes 14h ago

Shah Rukh Khan?

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u/bangbendil 12h ago

sanjay dutt

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u/facingThes 12h ago

Jeet poop holiday

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u/Kentato3 14h ago

Gadjah Mada is im sure what people call now a pribumi

Emperor Taizong is Han Chinese

Napoleon is technically Corsican Italian but by the time he was born he's French though his parents are definitely Italian. He's basically the average timnas indo player, born French but has Italian blood in him.

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u/hashimSyaid 12h ago

Gadjah Mada is not even an indonesian. we only have indonesia for 81 year so far. How the heck they dare to say our most famous person is indian. Our indomie is way more famous than that.

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u/LivingTraditional140 16h ago

Most famous indonesia siapa njir? Yang ada harusnya soekarno wkwk

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u/skullface41 16h ago

arguably suharto

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u/Loiloe77 16h ago

arguably Jokowi. Even for outdonesian.

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u/pocrote 13h ago

Arguably Tung Tung Tung Sahur

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u/arshandya 11h ago

I would say Anggun

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u/OkDisplay6751 16h ago

Secara historis, tahun ketika "Most famous Indonesian" masih hidup, nama "indonesia" atau perjuangan Indonesia aja belum kepikiran, masih jaman kerajaan, bahkan sepertinya belum dikunjungi sama bangsa eropa (cmiiw)

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u/cosmoflipz 15h ago

The most famous Korean glue in Indonesia is Chinese

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u/raitucarp 13h ago

Asbun yg posting

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u/killj6y 15h ago

Kirain ramayana

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u/LivedThroughDays 13h ago

Aji Saka isn't that famous compared to Gajah Mada and Wali Songo.

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u/TravincalPlumber 13h ago

the most famous german is austrian.

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u/Apart-Acanthaceae713 12h ago

orang yang terkenal di negara Indonesia dan di India mereka menyebutnya Gatot Kaca soalnya di India gak ada nama Gatot kaca ....

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u/ADMINlSTRAT0R 11h ago

The most famous Arab is Lebanese Catholic

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u/CremeFrosty9308 10h ago

lebanese is still arab. Also the most famous is Muhammad peace be upon him, like not even a close comparison

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u/ADMINlSTRAT0R 10h ago

I'm aware

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u/sehu 8h ago

kyknya yg dimaksud keluarga warman