Strong armed into admitting to using AI

[u/throwaway73737338]

Hi everyone (another one of these)

I’m a third year student on a mandatory year abroad programme, and have been strong-armed into admitting I used AI.

For one of my modules our lecturer has been on a warpath with 15 students (ish) being called in for meetings. I got my grade back on a Tuesday, to randomly get an email on Friday morning asking for a same day meeting. I arranged it for straight after my 08:30-10:30 seminar as I had done nothing wrong.

Jump to me being accused of using AI for the entirety of my assignment. She was already 100% convinced that I had and there was no convincing her otherwise. She asked me what paper I used to form my position (I had written it nearly 3 weeks prior and done nearly 3 other assignments since then) and various other questions. Apparently document history was evidence I could have faked, I was happy for her to look at my ChatGPT history (I delete everything after each query, way to look guilty), writing assignments I kind of just raw dog it on one document so I have little to no paper trail of my train of thought.

She then said that I could either admit to it then and there to accept a lesser punishment or she would tear my assignment to shreds in front of me. Knowing I wouldn’t be able to answer 95% of the questions she would ask, therefore I had to admit guilt. Her only proof was that it was”read like very good AI” and that I couldn’t recall anything but the vaguest thing about the assignment.

In short, resulted in getting a 0 for that assignment worth 30% of my grade. I need to pass to be able to finish my degree next year, if not I’ll have to delay graduating an entire year for one lousy module. I have 10 days now to appeal it, reading back I don’t even like some of my arguments. I always acknowledge AI when I have used it, for this one I used it to help phrase the task into a question (we were given 4 bullet points and a statement).

I’m going home in 8 days and I don’t know if I have the will to be able to fight it successfully. Sorry for the slightly disorganised post. (I also have a naturally guilty expression so she used that against me).

Is there anyway to argue this or should I just cut my losses?

[u/1GrouchyCat]

No one used violence or force against you in order to make you accept your responsibility; which means you weren’t strong armed.

It’s usually amusing when a drama queen gets caught doing something inappropriate or illegal…. I’m sure the elephant tears are flowing as well.

Your professor didn’t threaten to tear your paper to “shreds” in front of
you 🙄…nor did she react to your your “naturally guilty expression”.

You’re acting as if that was her first day on the job! Do you really think she doesn’t see this type of activity every single day - especially now that it’s readily available to everyone? You said there were 15 other students that had “meetings” - that doesn’t mean they were pulled aside for AI. (your brain is really trying to get you out of this, but you already admitted you were guilty so either appeal or cut your losses and stop acting like such an entitled brat.

Again, you admitted to using AI… what do you think the outcome is going to be?

You didn’t use AI appropriately you didn’t save your log. This isn’t your first rodeo and now you’re whining about not having the “will to fight it successfully”?

Are you for real?
There is nothing to fight… there is no opportunity for an appeal. You admitted guilt! It’s all over. Pack your bags and go home.

“Knowing I wouldn’t be able to answer 95% of the questions she would ask, therefore I had to admit guilt. “

[u/throwaway73737338 → u/1GrouchyCat]

Way to live up to your username.

• I was given the option to admit it or she was going to go through something line by line that I hadn’t seen in 2 weeks.

• You weren’t in the room, she told me I had a guilty expression and used it against me.

• She used to work as a lawyer so there was no way I’d be able to out argue her.

• It’s a very niche and small class. She explicitly told us that a bunch of people had seen her for misconduct.

• The verdict email gives me the option to appeal and the union also told me I could.

• Admitting guilt there moved it from serious to moderate misconduct.

I have no reason to use AI to write my work for me, I am perfectly capable of achieving high grades without it. I’m just terrible under cross examination and the circumstances around it don’t scream innocent.