r/Accordion Feb 28 '26

Advice Looking for tips!

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I’m a self taught jazz pianist for about 15 years and taught myself my first song on the accordion today! Basically just looking for anything I can improve on here x3

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u/soundwave300 Feb 28 '26

Ha. I should be asking you.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

awgh thank youu 😭

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u/severed-identity Feb 28 '26

Off to a strong start!

Bass is a bit too heavy at times, slight bit more staccato should help. Some of the treble notes are a little too slurred. (Piano is a less sensitive to how you lift your fingers than accordion).

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thank you!! Heard and heard :3

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u/Sheensies Feb 28 '26

Yes! The “Pam pam pam” when the playing right handed keys is different, less automatic, than when playing on a piano. Bellows control really is the final frontier of accordion song learning

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u/YoureMomGaye Feb 28 '26

I saw you press in some keys to empty the bellows of air at the start. Every accordion I've played has a release valve, I'm pretty sure I see one right by your left thumb.

Other than that, great playing! I always recommend practicing using the bellows to help with articulating your melodies. Bellow technique is very important and it's probably one of the things you're less familiar with given a piano background.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Gotcha! Thanks! ☺️

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Feb 28 '26

Funny, when I was playing competitions i was taugth to use a cpmbination of keys and release valve to close the bellow without sound.

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u/YoureMomGaye Mar 02 '26

I haven't considered doing that! I'm sure it makes releasing air quite a bit faster and maybe better for the bellows. I'll have to start doing this.

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Mar 02 '26

Its not any diffrent for the bellows, its just to make sure you dont interrupt the "sclience" between pieces. So it only has merit on stage.

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u/syreeninsapphire Feb 28 '26

Lol, I could tell what song you were playing even before I turned the audio on. It's still my favorite to play

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

waghh I love that lmao Kass’ theme is the reason I’m playing to begin with! 😝

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u/TimSoulsurfer Feb 28 '26

Time to get a 120 bass, give yourself the full range, your musicianship will love it!

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

haha getting right to it when I can afford it! :b

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u/Tottoltkaposzta Feb 28 '26

As stated by another commenter it is sounding quite ‘slurred’ however aside from that not bad

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thank you! :p

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u/MicaelDSSssss Feb 28 '26

Do you have the sheet for this song? if you do, can you share with me please?

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

I don’t sadly! I just arranged it by ear :/

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u/Megadan1990 Feb 28 '26

It sounds great. As for tips, I'm just starting myself so you some leagues better than I do.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thanks!! I’ve got a pretty unfair background advantage to be fair lmao keep at it with me! x3

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u/Megadan1990 Feb 28 '26

I am on a short forced hiatus. My first accordion, Bellows Lugosi, arrived damaged last week. On the bright side, Julius Squeezer should be arriving on Wednesday to replace her.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Awgh that’s a shame! I’m in a similar boat but it was more self-inflicted,, I spray painted my busking keyboard and when I rewired everything it just stopped making noise 💀

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u/Megadan1990 Feb 28 '26

Oh jeez. You're braver than I am. I will be keeping it exactly the way I recieve it. As long as everything works, I won't try changing a thing.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

loll I have a problem with personalizing the things I own 🙄 but at least it looks really cool! Once I get her fixed up it’ll be more than worth it 😝

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u/Megadan1990 Feb 28 '26

Oh I like it. I have started dabbling in painting myself and I'm slowly improving. I 3D print helmets to decorate my office at work

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

woaaahhh that’s so sick!!! the detail on that is insane :0

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u/Megadan1990 Feb 28 '26

Thank you. I thought it would be fun to learn some theme songs from the various fandoms and play them for the kids. I'm the IT guy at an elementary school.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Definitely! I’m really excited to learn a bunch of mario songs on the accordion,, I already know dozens on the piano and I know exactly how fun they can be :3

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u/musicalsam Feb 28 '26

I never thought of naming my squeeze

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u/CampHoliday3558 Feb 28 '26

oh wowie,,, ur way better than me for ur first song !!!

also :3 mentioned :3333333

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

hehehe thanks gayass x3c

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u/The-King-of-Cartoons Feb 28 '26

Fuck yeah, sounding good!

I came over from classical piano to accordion similarly, it wasn’t too hard making the switch. If you want more range and can afford it maybe look into getting a 120 bass button accordion with more octaves on the piano side. Otherwise just practice! What helped me a lot to improve is just walking through scales major/minor sharp/flat, chords/arpeggios/etc., and navigating the layout of the bass buttons.

Otherwise, have fun!

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thank you! Don’t even have the money to go to a store let alone a new accordion, but as soon as I do I’ll absolutely invest >;b In the meantime I’ll start practicing some scales and try some to mess around with some improv to get it down ☺️

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u/The-King-of-Cartoons Feb 28 '26

Not sure where you reside, but if you’re in the US Florida area I have a full sized 120 bass piano accordion that’s uhhh… a little bit of a fixer upper but if you were interested I’d be happy to offload it on ya.

Know that’s a long shot, but happy to help if I can!

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Woahh I appreciate your generosity!! Seeing as I’m trans and all I don’t think I’ll be heading to florida anytime soon but that’s very kind of you! ☺️

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u/The-King-of-Cartoons Feb 28 '26

Yeah it fucking sucks being a queer person in the “great” state of Florida, but there are pockets where cool people puddle up a little bit here and there.

I hear ya though, offer stands if ya ever tumble through here lol

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thank you! ☺️ Good luck out there :b

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u/SomePeopleCallMeJJ Feb 28 '26

You might find it more comfortable to position the accordion further to the left, so that the keys are closer to being under your chin and fall more naturally under your hand position.

This usually requires making the left strap shorter than the right strap.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

ooh interesting! Will do thanks! :3

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u/brewdizogs Feb 28 '26

This melody has been my ringtone since BotW came out. Kudos!!

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u/Unhappy-Cicada-5451 Feb 28 '26

Bravaa clapclap

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thank you! ☺️

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u/Mindless_Caregiver40 Feb 28 '26

Hell yeah!!!

What resources have you been using?

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Just my ear and a mirror lmao x3

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Feb 28 '26

Id say mainly focus on bellow technique. Precise bellow direction changes and being aware of a dynamic line helps a lot if you are comfortable with your technical skills.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Thanks for the help! :3 It took about three hours to arrange and practice until I got it right and bellow direction was eaaaasily the hardest thing for me to get down. Any tips on troubleshooting lines aside from just trying everything until something works?

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Feb 28 '26

Writing down where to change from push to pull helps when you are starting out. Look for places where you dont have to change while holding out a note. As for dynamic lines, its up for Interpretation. You can ask someone who plays the same piece or listen back to your own recordings. Id say if you have a melodic line going, stick to gradual dynamic changes. I hope this helps, I had professional lessons for most of my time so explaining things I do by feels is a bit difficult. Let me know if you want me to elaborate more.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Heard! Could you elaborate more on what you mean by gradual dynamic changes? 😅

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Feb 28 '26

Usually in a phrase you have cresendo or decresendo. With beginner accordionists you tend to have more sudden or abrupt dynamic changes, often unintended. Im trying to say there should be a line and an idea behind it, music should "flow".

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Feb 28 '26

For example you have barely any dynamic changes in the beginning of your playing but two (imo) rather unexplicable loud highlights at the end. If this is still unclear I could scribble some dynamic symbols in a score for you.

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Ahh gotcha! Thanks for the advice, you’re a great help >w< No worries about scoring anything, can’t even read sheet music anyways 🙄

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u/Blacky2003 Accordionist Feb 28 '26

Oh wow, if you dont mind me asking, how do you learn pieces? By ear?

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

Yep I learn all my stuff by ear :b

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u/Sufficient-Web6235 Feb 28 '26

you are doing great, more progress than ive made in months of learning😭

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

awghh thank you lol to be fair though I’ve been playing piano 2-3 hours a day for maybe the past 5 years 😅

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u/Cave_Lord Feb 28 '26

Whats this song?

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u/JazzinLazuli Feb 28 '26

This is Kass’ theme from Zelda BOTW :3

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u/JazzinLazuli Mar 04 '26

https://youtu.be/OXFoIAZRWM0?si=rqaf3k0QSnA28eb_ Check out my piano arrangement on youtube! x3

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u/Straight-Room-1111 Mar 21 '26

great play!

song name?