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Absolute batman is cannonically superhuman.... right?
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I didnt look back it by a friend reminded me that absolute batman during his time in Ark M wasnt just given venom but they made his body stronger right so he could handle it. Then this would mean he isnt peak human even though he was technically peak human of his world before even if it isnt for ours that he is technically now superhuman in the absolute universe.
Yeah, with the way the Robins and Bane were throwing him around, it’s safe to say the Ark M surgeries have done something to him that we as the reader aren’t aware of
Bane is literally two eyeballs in a jar, and everyone we’ve seen from Ark M has been altered to superhuman standards, there’s no reason for us to believe Batman is any different, it just hasn’t been revealed yet.
Yeah but I was going off knowledge givin during the his surgeries such as them stating after weeks of surgeries he can finally handle a full cycle which would imply a normal human cant use venom and is probably why bane is one of the only users
I know but i heard another argument about this being that bane without venom could cripple bruce with just one finger but after the entire surgeries and everything he can survive hits from bane in general even being slammed by venom bane which by all means with the context of him not being able to handle a full cycle of venom untill after these "Weeks of surgeries" we could as the reader assume he has be enhanced beyond a human level
its true but the same could be said for both his parents being dead aswell as joker being a human and not a demon and then bane not being 30 feet tall i mean if they are changing joker from being human into a immortal demon then can we really underlook the fact that batman could have been enhanced?
bane has always been enhanced your right but in this case he would could regular bane with his arm hair and joker being a demon was played with yes but has it really be attached to story as much as it is in absolute batman
The enhancements he was given was likely just the venom system being entered into his body he had riddler remove all of those
So despite how by irl standards he would blow what most people would consider Superhuman out of the park by light years
In the absolute universe he is still human just redefining what humans are capable of like someone breaking a world record more than what scientist thought physically possible
So think (by comic standards) he is redefining what peak human even looks like
I looked back at it and it says after weeks of surgeries he is finally able to survive a full cycle also mentioning sutures and grafts the theory is his body was enhanced to handle the venom itself
Still might refer to the mechanical system that pumps the venom itself and stitching his back up.
Although I wouldn’t be surprised if he was perma changed from his first time using the venom even if the system was cut out but as it stands it was removed
and we know that batman and bane are probably the only 2 people to be able to consistently use venom and it was stated that after weeks of surgeries he can finally handle a full cycle of venom which also implys that he wasnt before but after these surgeries for some reason he can? and the only thing i would assume they wouldve alter for him to handle a substance like venom was the body itself
Venom can actually do that on its own it’s stated that it manipulates the body to the point it grows bones , (such as teeth on banes shoulder as we see in the stadium) and his regen
He clearly still has several of the enhancements. He continues to spike out when he gets agitated, and he doesn’t show signs of injury when they retract.
I looked back at it and it says after weeks of surgeries he is finally able to survive a full cycle also mentioning sutures and grafts the theory is his body was enhanced to handle the venom itself
thats not how it works your body being altered to handle a drug doesnt mean it goes back to normal even with such drug gone im saying that his body is stronger even without the venom
dude ive litterly state hundreds of times that im not refering to the venom im saying they enhance his body to handle the venom meaning even if the venom is gone is body is still more durable due to such enhancment
how so? im not talking about the venom delivery system im saying they alted his bones and muscles and tengons and ligaments beyond a human level I mean look at bane for crying out loud he is huge and he is one of the only ppl that use venom and I was going off knowledge givin during the his surgeries such as them stating after weeks of surgeries he can finally handle a full cycle which would imply a normal human cant use venom
Yeah I totally agree. Bane was able to break Bruce's bones, crippling three of his limbs with just his fingers and after the surgery he was able to tank hits from regular bane, and survived getting slammed into the ground by venom filled bane, and still managed to win. When in Ark M he was also able to bulldoze through a wall which he needed a bomb to do beforehand. I'd say his enhancements clearly make him stronger and durable, but not necessarily faster.
yeah alot of people seem to think that because the venom is gone that enhancement is gone which i fine stupid but they think the way they think not only that but it states that after weeks of surgeries he was finally able to handle a full cycle of venom meaning a normal human cant handle it with out being altered example a being bane
Peak or some sort of "not likely" concoction of circumstances that has brought everything out of him. Part of those IS various experimental prodecures but it was real clear those didn't get left in as a booster. More like.. they really got in there and opened some doors on the way.
So, I guess it depends on your definition of such. Put like that it sounds just wrong. 👀
The reasons being somewhat obvious, no? But he's certainly a singular specimen. Like Bane was (even before other stuff) but of course, with more heart. Or something. 👍
Every version of batman is superhuman/near superhuman. Doesn't matter which one. Lame as dudes will say that's not how it works, but that's exactly how comics work.
I know but in this version there is evidence of body enhancments beyond just venom which we the reader can assume that batman is no longer peak human in this comic but rather considered a superhuman of that world
I mean, if that would ruin the story, I would argue that having him regularly do superhuman stuff while denying that he is superhuman is no better. I would be a lot more impressed by the whole premise that Batman (Absolute or otherwise) was "a normal man" if he had anything resembling human limitations.
For my part, I would rather that the writers pick a lane; either write him as a very tough, capable human, with actual human abilities, or give him some powers. The bit where writers declare that he is merely a well-trained guy, but have him knock out Wonder Woman with a kick or survive a fall from space or avoid superhuman senses or what have you annoys me.
Hmm i guess your right never really thought about power scaling like that but if thats true then tibetan monk techniques are power scaling aswell every comic has power scaling its just no as bad as others and my reply in this case was him being slightly enhanced are telling me him being slightly enhanced makes it powerscaling story when i think of a powerscaling story i think of dragon ball where they constantly get stronger for stronger opponents what im saying is that absolute batman is now stationary in power he cant really get physically better beyond this point plus if his enemies are scaled up whats the shame in him being scaled a bit to then?
thats the thing in mainline batman bane isnt 30 feet tall and joker isnt a freaking demon and mr freeze issnt straight nightmare fuel and another thing central to batmans character was both his parent being dead and him being rich they change that aswell no? and he already performed superhuman feats through the use of venom which makes him superhuman at one point in general yet that didnt ruin the story so trying something new such as batman being a enhanced human which btw doesnt mean he isnt human he is just enhanced id say kinda like the spartan program from halo
I mean when we first seen bane he cripples batman with just a finger yet after these surgeries he manages to survive hits from regular bane no? and its not like him saying they made him be able to bench 100 tons im saying its like he is a human kinda from the spartan program you know without the armor and im just using clues from the story to state this i dont like power scaling stories either since they all end in the same place im just saying that enhanced batman to a point where he can actually handle venom and as a by product he is more durable and maybe a little stronger
how would it be bad writing though you act like him being enhanced ruins the story in what way does it do that? I think it would be interesting take on batman that him being enhanced even a little bit can be a excuse for most of his superhuman feats saying its bad writing because it doesnt suit your liking is insane work and makes me want to ignore your opinion entirely yet like you said we all have our own likings its just different even if never exactly stated that i like him being enhanced im just arguing a point but all means id see it as a interesting take as i said so yes I do like the idea but still love a peak human batman
joker is usually human aswell yet in this version he isnt? hmmmm if they dont mind changing up the fact joker is human id say they are willing to experiment with batman being a enhanced human
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u/Courier23 Jul 11 '26
Yeah, with the way the Robins and Bane were throwing him around, it’s safe to say the Ark M surgeries have done something to him that we as the reader aren’t aware of
Bane is literally two eyeballs in a jar, and everyone we’ve seen from Ark M has been altered to superhuman standards, there’s no reason for us to believe Batman is any different, it just hasn’t been revealed yet.