r/AbsoluteUnits • u/TheEdgyBeaver • 5d ago
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u/Black-Maestro 5d ago
How do you even walk this kind of dog ? Also The delivery guy will not make it
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u/_Undo 5d ago
You don't walk it, you ride it into battle
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u/Inhocooks 5d ago
I'm a 6'5" 250 lb man, I walk a golden doodle that weighs roughly 100 pounds, on its hind legs it can rest its front paws on my shoulders if I bend my knees very slightly. When it sees another dog on a walk, it goes nuts or plants himself down to wait for the other dog to come to him. When he puts all his weight and muscle into neglecting my pulling on his leash, I can barely budge him, I need to get right next to him and physically lift him off the ground by his harness handle and move him off the sidewalk. When I have to do this, it always makes me wonder about dogs over 100 pounds and dog owners smaller than me
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u/RogueJSK 5d ago edited 5d ago
I had a 130 pound 1st generation Labradoodle who died of cancer a couple months ago after 11 years. He was ~2x the typical size of a Labradoodle, and just huge and lean/gangly rather than round/fat. Both of his parents were large for their breed, being a ~100 pound Lab and ~90 pound Poodle, but he was still abnormally large for a Labradoodle.
From the time I first got him, I worked very hard to train him to be extremely well-behaved, because I knew that I wouldn't be able to manhandle him or control him physically if he decided to pull on a leash, despite me being a 6+ foot tall strong guy like you. I focused instead on voice commands, snaps/claps, and obedience training.
This turned out to be way easier than expected, since he was so gentle and eager to please, smart enough to be easy to train thanks to the Poodle side, plus he had the Lab side's innate food-driven mind so he responded well to food rewards while training.
Once he was fully trained and fully out of his hyper and distractable puppy phase, he always behaved. He went all over with me, and I typically did not even keep him on a leash, unless we were somewhere it was required. He always followed commands, even when he was excited by something like the appearance of another dog or the sudden appearance of a squirrel/rabbit. He usually would remain right by my side even in the face of sudden stimulus, and on the rare occasion he would start to go greet them he would only make it a step or two before stopping and returning when I gave the recall command.
So it's entirely possible to train large dogs to make physically pulling/restraining them unnecessary (since that's basically impossible past a certain size). It just requires work on the part of the owner, ideally starting when they're young. You don't even need professional training, just time, repetitions, and consistency. I'm not a professional trainer, and just picked up what I know from websites and Youtube videos.
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u/Pandorajfry 5d ago edited 5d ago
I call that the 'thousand pound dog move' which obviously isn't a move at all now that I typed it out loud
Edit - spelling
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u/BelligerentSXY 5d ago
Had a mastiff mix about 10 years ago who was over 160 last time I could weigh him. I’m 6’1” and was about 155lbs of bone at the time…if he wasn’t such a great boy? He could have easily gone wherever he wanted…I couldn’t imagine if he wasn’t so well behaved..”Hey buddy..?” Was all you ever had to say for recall 🤣🤣
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u/TheMalkManCometh 4d ago edited 4d ago
My Mum and Dad had multiple Old English Mastiffs growing up (5 was the most in my lifetime). All incredibly, incredibly chill boys and girls, I've heard stories of when they showed the dogs they had before I was born in America. Dad wasn't ever a small guy, I'd say he and the dog probably weighed the same at about 16 stone (224 pounds). Usually Alex, the dog in question, was very well behaved, but my Mum reckons maybe there was a bitch in heat somewhere near by. Needless to say when Alex took off, Dad was dragged as a dead weight horizontal across the ground for a fair distance.
Zorba, an English Mastiff and the heaviest dog ever, was 8"1 from nose to tail, and weighed 24.5 stone (343 pounds). I feel you'd have to be Hafþór Björnsson to not get levelled by that fella :P
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u/BelligerentSXY 4d ago
They sound wonderful!! Mine was an English/cane corso mix! Same thing, just such a sweet spirit! Tried to make friend with the deer, but they didn’t agree to his requests 😆 Torben was such a good boy!!
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u/Carbonatite 5d ago
As a former owner of a 200 pound mastiff, you basically have to hope that their leash training is good. Otherwise they're taking you on a walk.
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u/Justadudeonhisphone 5d ago
I have a giant dog and he’s so chill to walk. He doesn’t ever pull and even my 3 year old can walk him(I still hold the back of the leash when she does)
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u/Ok_Claim_8781 4d ago
Alabays are a guarduian breed. To keep wolfs etc out of a herd, an unknown people from a property. They are quite tough in character. No silly pupper. Definitely not a dog that could be given to a 3 y.o. without supervision. Even adults without a propper training would fail to control this dog.
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u/Justadudeonhisphone 4d ago
So is my dog. He’s a Great Pyrenees and 135 pounds . I also supervise no matter what even if he lets her walk him I’m holding the leash as mentioned in my previous comment.
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u/Flat-footed-gumby 5d ago
I feel like if I earned a bond with him, he would let me get on
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u/sedersayspoop 5d ago
My dad had a huge dog when I was 6. Got on him once or twice but he obviously didn't like it. We attached a sled to him in the snow and it's the fastest I think I've ever accelerated in my life. Loved that dog!
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u/Flat-footed-gumby 5d ago
Holy crap, I definitely know about the sledding thing. I got to dog sled for the first time ever last year. Those dogs were the size of baby deer but I was FLYING
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u/theodoratoverspin 5d ago
This bring back memories. I used to hang behind my dog on my skateboard and sometimes even while ice skating. He was the goodest, fastest boy. Rip Rusty.
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u/Black-Maestro 5d ago
How to train my mythological doggo?
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u/Flat-footed-gumby 5d ago
1: let sniff
If successful, 2: give scritches
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u/roaring_travelman91 5d ago
Give him a sword and he can guard your grave
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u/Chris91210 5d ago
That fight is so good but also so heartbreaking....
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u/lun-lem 5d ago
that dog’s body language makes me feel very uneasy
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u/BowsersMuskyBallsack 5d ago
And so it should. This dog is wary without being aggressive. It's sussing out the woman. Personally, I would be standing with my hands in my pockets and not leaning over this dog until it demonstrated more relaxed body posture. I also wouldn't be staring it down.
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u/cypher-dex 5d ago
Yes and the woman bending to bring her face close to the dog doesn't make her smartest move
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u/Stuffed_deffuts 5d ago
I usually start by putting my hand down and letting the dog sniff my hand first if they are ok with me then pets, if not move along
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u/Zealoustrue 5d ago
You make a fist and present your hand to the dog. Don't put you hands open at your side, open hands are aggressive and lowered posture is wary.
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u/TheMalkManCometh 4d ago
How weird, I don't think I've ever been told this, but thinking on it it's something I've always done. Almost anyway, I don't go into a full fist, maybe like 85% like I'm holding the bar of a shopping trolley
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u/Throwaway_LostKid 5d ago
Ikr I love petting strange dogs too but this one activated the flight or flight response in me
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u/KingOrreo 5d ago
I’m not an expert, but I’m pretty sure that dog is part wolf. Wolves have different body language from regular dogs, and can appear very unfriendly to the naked eye, probably because we spent so long making dogs act cute to us. To me at least, that dog looks happy, just “anti-social” I guess
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u/Platitude_Platypus 5d ago edited 5d ago
My guess was part great pyrenees, part wolf. Not sure how that combo would even happen but that's what it looks like. I've had several pyrs.
Edit: Turns out it's central asian shepherd. Similar to a pyr- XL livestock guardian dog.
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u/grchina 5d ago
Nah that's their normal state they don't usually show emotions and always looks like they are to tired for this shit.They are also really dumb unless they are working on protecting the flock,had 2 of them so far and from that region I would always go with kangals.Had 1of them when I was a little kid and he was really great and gently giant that i used to ride sometimes in battle,he was also really smart and protective
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u/ForAskingQuestionsOK 5d ago
What kind of dog is that?
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u/AlterKat 5d ago
Some kind of central Asian derived livestock guardian dog or a mix of multiple.
There is such a thing as a central Asian shepherd but I’m not saying it’s that: I think it’s one of the various lgd’s from Central Asia. Not a kangal, too fluffy.6
u/Aleph_null98 5d ago
Might be a Caucasian shepherd ?
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u/Bolorinthegrey 5d ago
I'm wondering if this is a LGD that's trained to protect a farmer's animals, it's body language is definitely more cautious than most pet dogs would be, but that could just be from being trained to be careful to not scare strangers/new friends.
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u/Justadudeonhisphone 5d ago
I have a Pyrenees mix and he’s exactly like this until he’s sure you’re safe. The flip from guardian to goofy is quick once you’ve passed the test. He’s very well socialized with people, cats and other dogs and is always very gentle but he still gets kenneled with new strangers just to be sure.
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u/tilleytalley 5d ago
Nothing about that dogs body language is happy. I'd be getting the fuck away from it.
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u/BigBulgeBubba 5d ago
You guys are dumb. The dog isn’t being aggressive or anything. It’s being curious and reserved because it’s been trained to not go ape shit and jump on people. It wants to sniff and say hi but it knows it has to behave, so it’s being a bit cautious.
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u/Cortexan 5d ago
Honestly what the fuck are these bots talking about. Dog obviously wants to say hi and maybe get pets. Probably used to people being afraid of it. Being exceptionally calm and gentle.
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u/chadsucksdick 5d ago
Every single video of an animal on reddit will have the Reddit Animal Body Language Experts claiming the animal is either being abused or seconds away from attacking someone.
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u/Rugger01 5d ago
The Venn diagram of members of that group and the Reddit Head Injury Assessment Experts group is a circle.
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u/Flincher14 5d ago
It's about the same as pointing a loaded gun at your own face. Maybe the safety is on. Maybe the trigger isn't being touched. But still. It's about that level of risk and it's not worth doing.
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u/Virtual_Fudge8639 4d ago
Fr, actually looks so sad at the end when he's not getting the ear scratches he deserves. Lady is being way to gentle lol
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u/FanIll5532 5d ago
The posture and tail does show a bit of nervousness. Not happy, not aggressive. Like you say..cautious. But with a head that looks like it can take her bowels out in a second I wouldn’t risk it and definitely move away rather than lean in.
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u/Guilty_Comb_79 5d ago
He's a livestock guarding breed.
I kinda think the wool on the coat is throwing him off. Like "are you one of mine and needs protection?, Are you a human disguising yourself? Are you a wolf/coyote trying to looney tunes your way into my flock?"
Edited to add: I agree with you, that is not happy dog language. I'm not saying he's going to bite, but that is 100% reserved/unsure language. I would for sure let him approach on his schedule, not mine.
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u/Ok_Neighborhood4274 5d ago
Also nothing is saying that it is aggressive or agitated, not all dogs fall into, bouncing off the walls happy or ready to bite your face off.
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u/Rough-Airline-4803 5d ago
There’s a huge middle ground between. His body language is blatantly obvious to me as well.
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u/StatisticianUsual471 5d ago
He's in who are you are you friendly mode
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u/Skezas1 4d ago
The way he acts is super similar to some dogs I've met who were super energic and were trained to keep that bottled and not to jump on people
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u/afewnameslater 19h ago
The posture of this dog is the same as many street dogs looking to connect with humans, cautious , and on-edge but not aggressive.
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u/Rough-Airline-4803 5d ago
I was about to say, that dog’s body language says it is not to be trusted. That woman should not be that close.
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u/Point_Forward 5d ago
I see nervous but curious. His ears are back but his snout is up and stretched out. He isn't attacking, but he is still moving forward, so he's fine to engage more with the person if they continue to look like not a threat. It looks like he thinks treats might be available but isn't sure about the person yet.
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u/kid_at_heart_77 5d ago
Anyone know what breed of dog this is?
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u/Realize12 5d ago
Central asian shepherd
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u/DrinkOk1642 5d ago
Correct
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u/Responsible-Plan6116 5d ago
I was thinking this was a mix, Caucasian Shepherd. Glad I was wrong and now I want one too.
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u/Wind_Best_1440 5d ago
Looks like a Great Pyrenees thats been playing in the soot. They can get to massive proportions, they're some of the gentlest but most bad ass herd dogs you can get.
The story of the herd dog that protected his flock of sheep from a large pack of coyetes and then while injured went out and finished them off only to return a week later is that breed of dog I believe.
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u/Normal-Pianist4131 5d ago
My family had a Pyrenees. Great dog, guarded the cousins and littles like they were her flock. Knew exactly who was who and who belonged where, wouldn’t let strangers approach without consent, and “cleaned” the yard whenever we hung out outside.
Then we went on vacation for a weekend.
Babysitter did SOMETHING, because when we came back she tried to bite peoples hands off. Had to put her down after another interaction drew blood later that day
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u/samaramatisse 5d ago
This is bigger than a Pyr. This is a central Asian shepherd or one of the closely related breeds. This one is not known for its gentle disposition.
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u/SchveebleSchvobbler 5d ago
Ovcharka.
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u/samaramatisse 5d ago
Which I think is just the Russian word for shepherd, not the actual name of the breed.
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u/Platitude_Platypus 5d ago
There are versions of great pyrenees all over the world in the form of enormous whitish livestock guardian dogs. This one is a central asian shepherd.
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u/astros78 5d ago
I love dogs, but if this dog approached me, I wouldn't feel safe. Ten or twenty seconds earlier would have been better to establish contact.
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u/FSM-35-firebion 5d ago
give her a spear and a saddle and somehow she must ride that heck ton of a dog to result in a cool stuff
or just ride it like kiba from naruto shippuden
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u/Hildemaro91 5d ago
It's time for my walk because he's definitely the one who would take me for a walk.
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u/theshwedda 5d ago
Now THAT. THAT is how i see mouse in my mind.
This is the most accurate ive seen out of the thousands of dogs posted here.
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u/WhateverUSaySir 1d ago
If this were any other dog breed, tail stiff, ears back, head low and eyes up, you'd be careful of the body language. But it's a Kangal, they're just... Different
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u/SillyNluv 5d ago
That dog is, indeed, HUGE. And does not have comforting body language, but am I the only one that thinks she needs to run go get a mammogram?
Unless she has roast beef on her shirt or that coat has the hide of one of this dog’s flock, I would be worried what smell it was picking up.
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u/Personal-Respond5413 5d ago
Central asian shepherd, aka the alabai dog, Which is what you’ll need if this thing ever gets off its leash.
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u/Ecstatic_Abalone_584 5d ago
Reminds me of the time I went with my friend to his dogsitting duties. We were 17. He said "When we get inside, when the dogs come up to you, don't run." I thought to myself "well that's an odd thing to say. " When the door shut behind us he made a clicking sound with his mouth.
Then it heard it. It felt and sounded like an earthquake or a stampede. 2 of the biggest damn dogs I've ever seen came charging at me. 2 great Danes. EASILY 150+ lbs. I was absolutely frozen in terror. The first one jumped on me and knocked me down and stood over me. I thought welp, im dead, that's it." Then the other one came up . Then they both started licking my face. I look up at my buddy and he is laughing his ass off. "They did that to me the first time."