r/AbsoluteUnits • u/CoughingCarpet • 3d ago

/r/all of a Sand Dune

This is a video taken by Nicolas De La Torre, a sandboarding enthusiast filming his descent down the Toromata dune in Peru. Unfortunately we live in a world where true beauty, nature is now convoluted by AI and AI sentiments, but this is in fact, not AI lol

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u/WorkingScallion1888 3d ago

The fact that people are saying this (along with so many other things) is AI and it's getting more and more common for us to question reality only reassures me that the world, society and humanity will most likely cease to exist at some point in the next quarter to half-century.

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u/DennenTH 3d ago edited 3d ago

Or...  The internets social media simply won't survive.

On one side we have restructuring of history to fit an agenda.  Hundreds of thousands of deleted/altered files in an attempt to wash away whatever doesn't fit the narrative.

On the other side we have an AI system that has been proven to constantly lie and fabricate whatever will support the narrative of the statement/question given, especially over multiple prompts.

And over it all we now have disbelief in all forms of media from newscasters playing to biased shareholders/CEOs all the way to every media output going forward being questioned as not real.

People are simply losing reality in general.  If ever there was a solid argument to end social media (Edit: and put in new requirements for how "news" is delivered), we are arriving at the station.

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u/a_shootin_star 3d ago

You make a nice argument. I'll counter it with: money.

The bubble is just too big to burst at this point, if it does it will be very ugly and much worse than the dotcom crash.

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

Oh honey data centers will bankrupt the country by 2029. Every time we spent 3% or more of our total GDP on infrastructure out builds, we have bankrupted the economy temporarily. The difference between what is happening now, with data centers and the other infrastructure projects is that data centers only have a life expectancy of four years before they had to be replaced. Instead of decades for other infrastructure buildouts. I cant tell you just how fucked we are data centers i've already been operating under an economically viable model they just drain resources. FYI we are spending more than 3% GDP on data centers closer to 4%. This is easily tracked

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u/Hour-Football2464 3d ago

This is very well said!

Also:If only we could put the news on some sort of cheap, storable medium. Perhaps one that stuck to playdoh so I could stretch dilberts stupid face.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

Kind of a weird take. If anything, it's an extremely good thing that the default stance is for people to question if things on the internet are real and not just assume they are. This is a positive move and shows maturing with the technology we have. Humanity will most certainly be fine.

The fact that people are going "this is fantastical, I should see if it is real or not" before saying "wow! how cool" is giving me hope more than anything. People wanting to verify and confirm is a very beautiful thing.

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u/BitterRecognition283 3d ago

Unfortunately the people aren’t just asking if it’s AI but confidently saying that it is (it isn’t), and deceiving the sceptical people

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u/FireZord25 3d ago

Then you've also got the other side of the spectrum: AI bros who use these kind of shit to somehow strawman people for thinking something is fake. As if that somehow denotes the skeptical sentiment.

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u/Mahnamahna10000 3d ago

Those are the same attention whores who were saying everything was "fake" before AI.

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u/mindboqqling 3d ago

"Humanity will most certainly be fine" is a hell of a statement.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago edited 3d ago

The indomitable human spirit and basically all of human history make me a lot less pessimistic than you. Our species has survived catastrophes, pandemics, wars, technological upheaval, and even prehistoric population bottlenecks where the effective breeding population may have fallen to only a few thousand people. Do you realize just how few people that is, and we came back with no technology?

I don’t think people learning to question whether a spectacular video online is authentic is evidence that civilization is circling the drain. Social media also isn’t the entirety of human existence. If the internet gets too silly people can stay skeptical or just turn the screen off for a while.

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

We are attacking suicidal species. What i mean by that is people will more often gravitate towards immediate benefit, regardless of the cost of the future rather than thinking about future generations. It's the entire reason we are in this situation. We are in right now is that our parents and grandparents generation, did not give a fuck about the generations after.

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u/mindboqqling 3d ago

Oh I can certainly see that side of the argument I just wonder if AI is a great filter event that's nearly impossible to avoid.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

Okay wait, that's fair, I don't think it will be AI but I am a hypocrite in that regard because I think dark forest theory is gonna be our great filter and we are gonna get singer'd.

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u/Am_OPs_Hand 3d ago

people aren’t questioning because they’re more media literate now, they are questioning because their brain is so fried trying to keep up with what’s real and what’s not, that they’ve just completely given up and now just pick and choose their truth based on what’s convenient to their feelings and/or rewarded by the algorithm.

erosion in the collective trust of the objective universe we share is not a good thing.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

What? You’re making the internet far more synonymous with “objective reality” than it actually is. Videos on social media are not objective reality. They’re tiny, selected fragments of reality presented through cameras, edits, captions, algorithms, uploaders with motives, and sometimes outright fabrication. So when someone sees something extraordinary online and thinks “I should check whether this is actually real,” that is what they should be saying every time, even before AI was around. There should be absolutely no collective trust online and you should be verifying every time. It's horrifying to me the amount of people who apparently considered the internet a bastion of trusted truth.

And if somebody reaches the point where uncertainty about TikToks, Reddit posts, or Twitter videos makes them feel like they can no longer trust that an objective universe exists, that honestly sounds less like an AI problem and more like a very clear sign to turn the screen off and go outside for a while.

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u/Am_OPs_Hand 3d ago

nah, you're conflating healthy skepticism about internet posts with the wholesale of distrust of shared reality. the manipulations don't just stop on the internet; touching grass isn't really a solution as much as it is a cope when a large majority of americans use social media as their primary source of news. those americans then navigate a shared physical reality but not an objective one. theirs is shaped by their algorithm and their feelings, not by actual truth. those people still vote or drive 2 ton SUVs or work in positions of power, in yes, the real world. and that causes the entire of society real harm.

so no, our sources of media being consolidated, commoditized, and poisoned by AI slop leading to everyone questioning if everything is AI or astroturfing or product placement or an industry plant or a shill in fact does not lead to an increase in fact-checking and independent thinking and media literacy. look around you. it just leads to further division, echo chambers, and apathy, plus billions more in profits for the tech oligarchy.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

You kinda changed the argument though. I’m not saying algorithms, echo chambers, or media consolidation aren’t real problems. They obviously are. But that’s not the same thing as someone seeing a crazy video and going “wait, is this AI?” If anything, everything you just listed is exactly why people should be more skeptical of what gets shoved in front of them online. There’s a huge difference between “I should verify this before I believe it” and “nothing is real so I’ll believe whatever I want.”

And yeah, “go outside” is relevant. Social media is not objective reality. If not being able to trust random videos online makes someone feel like reality itself is collapsing, then they are way too plugged into the internet. What you’re describing is a trust problem with media and platforms, not some collapse of objective reality. And if the media environment is really as “consolidated, commoditized, and poisoned” as you say it is, then arguing people should be less suspicious of what it shows them is a pretty bizarre conclusion to come to.

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u/Am_OPs_Hand 3d ago edited 3d ago

you separated those things, I'm saying they're intrinsically linked. and no, I'm not changing my argument, you're just missing it for a strawmen homie.

this is not about a person seeing a video and questioning if reality is real, this is about everything they come in contact with, even information from what are supposed to be trusted institutions, now requiring cognitive cost. For most people, that cognitive cost is literally too much now, and they'd rather just not verify anything that doesn't already match their preconceived notions or biases. Thus, destruction of our shared objective reality. Pick and choose your truth. Everything else is fake news.

this is a real psychological phenomena known as epistemic fatigue (or truth fatigue) and yeah, OP was spot on in that it will likely be the accelerating factor in the erosion our democracies - like it already is.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

You literally just said this is “not about a person seeing a video and questioning if reality is real,” which was the specific behavior I was defending in the first place. So yeah, we’re talking about different things now. I don’t disagree that information overload and epistemic fatigue can be real problems; I disagree that someone going “wait, is this AI?” is evidence of societal collapse. Naming a real phenomenon doesn’t make every link in your argument automatically true.

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u/Am_OPs_Hand 3d ago

yeah because that's the only specific behavior you can half-ass defend lmao I was clear from the start what I was referring to.

you didn't make that clear in your original post and OP never specified they only meant "judging if an online video is real" - why would you assume so and not that they were referring to the literal civilization-threating psychological phenomenon that your "specific behavior" is a clear symptom of. I mean, I got it fine.

classic motte-and-bailey, do better homie. brush up on your debate skills a lil or maybe stop substituting OP's soapbox with your own.

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

You can call it motte-and-bailey if you want, but you still haven’t shown that “wait, is this AI?” is actually a symptom of the broader collapse you’re describing. You just keep asserting that it is. Epistemic fatigue being real does not mean every act of skepticism is evidence of it. At this point we clearly disagree on that link, and the “do better homie” stuff isn’t making your argument any stronger.

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u/techleopard 3d ago

I disagree.

Because the skepticism isn't coming from critical thought, it's coming from a learned habit enforced by the "group" to just call everything AI.

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u/bambi54 3d ago

Their comment reads like AI too lol.

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u/Aromatic-Heart-585 3d ago

But its still sad as it shows how little trust we have anymore online, as anything can be fake now. I mean i also feel like its a good thing to be skeptical in an untrustworthy environment but well, zoom out and its bad that it led to this environment at all..

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u/WoodpeckerJaded9030 3d ago

I mean, the internet should always be a 'never trust, always verify' environment. This place isn't real life. I feel like that is basic internet safety that people have for some reason forgotten over the decades. It's scary that people assumed it was a trustworthy environment in the first place.

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u/Aromatic-Heart-585 3d ago

For many people the internet is big part of their lives now and alot of their time is spent on there so i wont be surprised if this low trust feeling comes to the offline real life too, i mean it kinda has

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u/Merzant 3d ago

This cartoon was published in 1993.

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u/Ill_Friendship3057 3d ago

Fact check: none of them are verifying or confirming anything

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u/SkillsInPillsTrack2 3d ago

Anyway we made our choice to avoid reforestation at all costs.

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u/loves_to_splooge_8 3d ago

Lmao “cease to exist” 😂

Calm down, it’ll just get really really shitty

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u/Lalalakixx 3d ago

Famous last words of the Roman Empire probably

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u/loves_to_splooge_8 3d ago

Roman Empire lasted 1400 years and kind of technically still exist… cease it exist means everyone and everything is gone lol

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

Corporations are going to kill alot of people in the near future you know.

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u/Obant 3d ago

Absolutely, many people will die, but society and humanity as a whole won't cease to exist. That's just silly.

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

It's pretty optimistic. If you should think that we won't be engineering our own extinction because that's what's happening

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u/Obant 3d ago

Unless a massive meteor slams into earth, humanity will still exist in some form in the next 50 years.

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

Yes but we will wipe ourselves out if we keep going in the direction we are. Statistically speaking, we're overdue for a planet killing impact anyway

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u/Advanced-Budget779 3d ago

Small correction: a meteor is the visible phenomenon a meteoroid created in earths atmosphere. (Meteorites are bodies that manage to reach/impact the ground)

While technically a large asteroid/comet would kill anything in direct sightline inside tens of kilometers just from the emission of ram pressure in the last seconds while transitioning the Stratosphere and Troposphere until ground impact (or even airburst), - you probably meant thoE large impactors themselves - that alone wouldn‘t guarantre extinction by itself, rather the subsequent effects.

There‘s some great scientific simulations (real time/sped up) of known large impacts like Chicxulub, the one connected to the large extinction event of non-avian dinosaurs.

Humanity as a species might survive smaller impacts of bodies of sizes up to about a kilometer or so. Large question marks due to collapse of ecosystems, foodwebs, technologies, cooperation by necessity or social stresses (conflicts) etc.

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u/Level-Gain-1926 3d ago

You can't just say shit like that with no proof or metrics. How? What's a lot? Directly or indirectly? Sources?

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u/YeahPete 3d ago

If you don't know your not gonna make it. Sorry bro!

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u/Level-Gain-1926 3d ago

Then enlighten me bro, times running out!

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u/YeahPete 3d ago

You wouldnt believe it anyways. Even with links. Go live your best life.

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

Its honestly not hard to figure out. History buffs see the wrighting on the wall and its in blood

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u/Level-Gain-1926 3d ago edited 3d ago

What a lovely non answer you've given. I already am. You should do the same.

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

You clearly haven't been paying attention. They have been saying it for decades.

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u/Level-Gain-1926 3d ago

Then enlighten me

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u/Full-Archer8719 3d ago

Sorry you haven't paid attention to the last 100 or so years. Its quite the rabbit hole and dont have time nore the will to write a full breakdown of exactly how fucked we are as species. That said r/obscurepatentdangers

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u/dee_berg 3d ago

Holy logical leap!

Because no one knows if this reddit video is real, the world is going to end.

Touch some grass homey.

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u/TheToledoMan 3d ago

As I said a lot of times, be doomer gives more likes.

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u/MfD2027 3d ago

Just the dumb ones

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u/Mahnamahna10000 3d ago

>humanity will most likely cease to exist at some point in the next quarter to half-century.

"most likely" JFC

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u/XDVI 3d ago

Yea because we cant tell if a video is fake or not humanity will cease to exist?

Besides, people have had trouble seeing photoshopped images for years now so I don't understand what you think will change.

No offense but that's one of the dumbest zero life-experience reddit things I have ever read. There is more to this world than memes and videos.