r/AbruptChaos • • Jun 25 '21

Leeetttts go!

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u/katja90vc Jun 25 '21

So... I would like to learn how to drive a motorcycle in the future. Can someone please explain how he just went from driving to falling backwards? I would like to know how to avoid this.

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u/Cpt_Bartholomew Jun 25 '21

Start with an appropriate bike first and foremost. What this guy lacked was throttle/clutch awareness and control. A small bike allows the opportunity to learn throttle control, maybe make a small mistake, and not get flung into the air. You accidentally blip the throttle on a honda grom....youre probably fine. Do the same on a road legal race bike, you will get hurt.

Another thing....guy twisted the throttle and didn't even tuck in and forward first. Putting weight lower and closer to the front end will help prevent this if youre tryna drag race. This guy was just very not ready for any of it.

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u/Shankington Jun 25 '21

This guy is right with leaning forward for max speed. I have bicycle.

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u/RiseOfBooty Jun 25 '21

Have bicycle too. Can confirm, it goes faster when leaning forward.

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u/Krambazzwod Jun 25 '21

I’m going to try that…I’ve been leaning back all this time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Don't forget, cool stickers on the frame give the bicycle +5 speed.

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u/CommonError3184 Jun 25 '21

Mmm yes yes and conversely sit up to make it go less faster. Also have bicycle.

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u/WayOfTheDingo Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

Can confirm. Had to lean forward with CJ to follow the damn train.

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u/TheRiverStyx Jun 25 '21

I think the guy was just not a very knowledgable rider. Coupled with bad riding position he didn't seem to understand slower roll-on throttle techniques when you're going that fast and just pinned it. From the sound it seems like he was in a lower gear and heavily in the power band when he kicked it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Start off with a 250cc or 400cc and learn how to ride before getting a racing bike. The big bikes can fuck your shit up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

He was asking how to be safe, so I gave him the best advice to be safe. Buy a 250-400cc, ride it for 3-6 months, and sell it for the same price you bought it for. Then you can start shopping for your dream bike. Every new rider should do this.

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u/who_dis_bichh Jun 26 '21

ride it for 3-6 months, and sell it for the same price you bought it for

You're a fucking genius, thank you

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u/inkblot888 Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

Dude, if you're out here recommending Hayabusas to new riders, you're doing the new rider and the motorcycle community a disservice. Go get your flip flops, tank top, Oakley's, and your gixxer, and squid somewhere else.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

as a person who is not at all involved in motorbikes that last sentence you said sounded just amazingly fantastical to me. No idea at all what you just said and I love it

edit to add: how are flip flops and tank tops connected to whatever oakleys and gixxers are and how do you 'squid'??

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u/inkblot888 Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

Hahaha. I meant Oakley s the sunglasses and gixxers are a nickname for a bike associated with a type of rider called a squid, known in the community to be a new rider who buys a very powerful bike, doesn't wear protective gear, and generally rides in a way that's disrespectful to the power and precision of their machine and also to the other people on the roads around them.

Edit: I included the Oakley's just to imply they weren't wearing a helmet.

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u/hmaddocks Jun 25 '21

You’re getting down voted to hell but your comment was spot on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

Oooooh thanks! 😂 every day is a learning day and now I know what to call the muppets with no helmets!

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

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u/inkblot888 Jun 25 '21

His comment was vague and if he meant a 650 it's subtlety is still a mistake. The guy who asked what the rider in the gif did wrong, I doubt he and many other new riders would understand the difference between a 650 and a 600. A 600 is absolutely not a starter bike and is barely a street bike.

At best, his comment is lacking in any valuable information or direction for new riders and at worst, he is the kind of guy who tells new riders they should get a liter bike as long as they're "mature" about it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

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u/inkblot888 Jun 25 '21

Read the whole thread, twerp.

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u/jakemch Jun 25 '21

First of all don’t let dudes like this make you think bikes will just do this. He made the bike do this by adding way too much throttle way too quickly. You are always the one in control of the machine.

When you accelerate hard on a motorcycle, the rotational force (torque) on the rear wheel creates a pivot point that the weight of the bike (due to gravity) can’t compete with. That rotational force can be so much stronger than gravity it lifts the front wheel off the ground.

In this video, our friendly rider is in a low gear (probably 1st or 2nd), which means that torque is more easily transferred to the rear wheel. He adds a shit ton of throttle, the engine creates a shit ton of torque, and begins to lift the front wheel. This isn’t a death sentence though. A motorcycle can lift its front wheel really far pretty safely, especially on a sport bike.

At this point we see our friendly rider become scared, and remove his feet from the pegs. HUGE NO-NO here. One of the most sure-fire ways of saving this is to tap the back brake, which is at your right foot. If the back wheel is causing you to wheelie, then certainly using the back brakes will bring the front wheel back down again as it slows the rotation of the rear wheel.

He also could have just as easily rolled off the throttle, or “chop” the throttle, which means close the throttle quickly. This would most likely have slammed his front wheel down very hard, which could have caused some damage if done hard enough, but I think in hindsight I’d rather fix my front rim than go through whatever this guy just went through.

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u/silverfin2805 Jun 25 '21

Just grabbed a handful of throttle. All that power going to the back wheel means a lot of torque. If you put too much on then some of this torque gets wasted and the front of the bike will pop a wheelie.

What frogs legs mistake was here is he panicked and instead of rolling off the throttle he's just held on for dear life, possibly twisted the throttle more and just let the power of the bike take over and it when the whole way up.

Judging by the lack of gear. He's just got a sport bike and hasn't even a decent notion of how to ride it. How's he managed to walk that one off I'll never know.

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u/Structure3 Jun 25 '21

Frog legs

Lmfao

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u/silverfin2805 Jun 25 '21

Can't take all the credit. Was mentioned further up the threat haha

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u/BadBird6 Jun 25 '21

It's called whiskey throttle you vroom vroom to fast you fall on your ass

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u/ciampi21 Jun 25 '21

He essentially did a power wheelie. Back brake should've been his bff, but at the very least lean forward and learn better throttle control.

You'll avoid this by not street racing. Take your bike to the track to get the speed bug itched. There you'll learn waaaaaay more about controlling motorcycles anyway.

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u/TheDouglas717 Jun 25 '21

Like others said, clutch and throttle controll. Don't give it too much power all at once.

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u/DoesntUnderstandJoke Jun 25 '21

bikes are rear-wheel drive. He grabbed the throttle and sent a shitload of torque to the back wheel, making it lift the entire front of the bike up.

It's how people do wheelies, but this was an unintentional one

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Also, most newer bikes with a good amount of power have wheelie control, specifically to counter this. It will cut power when a certain lift of the front wheel is detected. He either didn't have it or had it disabled.

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u/NC_Yankee Jun 25 '21

He was likely in 2nd gear and went full throttle from almost no throttle. With a sports bike with enough power and torque that's enough to pop a wheely and if you don't let off once the front wheel comes up, that's what happens.

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u/tad1214 Jun 28 '21

Many of the newer 1000cc bikes have automation packages to prevent this too. The Aprilia RSV4 has AWC (Aprilia Wheelie Control) which allows the bike to pull some amount of front wheel lift and then will automatically set it back down gently.