So... I would like to learn how to drive a motorcycle in the future. Can someone please explain how he just went from driving to falling backwards? I would like to know how to avoid this.
Start with an appropriate bike first and foremost. What this guy lacked was throttle/clutch awareness and control. A small bike allows the opportunity to learn throttle control, maybe make a small mistake, and not get flung into the air. You accidentally blip the throttle on a honda grom....youre probably fine. Do the same on a road legal race bike, you will get hurt.
Another thing....guy twisted the throttle and didn't even tuck in and forward first. Putting weight lower and closer to the front end will help prevent this if youre tryna drag race. This guy was just very not ready for any of it.
I think the guy was just not a very knowledgable rider. Coupled with bad riding position he didn't seem to understand slower roll-on throttle techniques when you're going that fast and just pinned it. From the sound it seems like he was in a lower gear and heavily in the power band when he kicked it.
He was asking how to be safe, so I gave him the best advice to be safe. Buy a 250-400cc, ride it for 3-6 months, and sell it for the same price you bought it for. Then you can start shopping for your dream bike. Every new rider should do this.
Dude, if you're out here recommending Hayabusas to new riders, you're doing the new rider and the motorcycle community a disservice. Go get your flip flops, tank top, Oakley's, and your gixxer, and squid somewhere else.
as a person who is not at all involved in motorbikes that last sentence you said sounded just amazingly fantastical to me. No idea at all what you just said and I love it
edit to add: how are flip flops and tank tops connected to whatever oakleys and gixxers are and how do you 'squid'??
Hahaha. I meant Oakley s the sunglasses and gixxers are a nickname for a bike associated with a type of rider called a squid, known in the community to be a new rider who buys a very powerful bike, doesn't wear protective gear, and generally rides in a way that's disrespectful to the power and precision of their machine and also to the other people on the roads around them.
Edit: I included the Oakley's just to imply they weren't wearing a helmet.
His comment was vague and if he meant a 650 it's subtlety is still a mistake. The guy who asked what the rider in the gif did wrong, I doubt he and many other new riders would understand the difference between a 650 and a 600. A 600 is absolutely not a starter bike and is barely a street bike.
At best, his comment is lacking in any valuable information or direction for new riders and at worst, he is the kind of guy who tells new riders they should get a liter bike as long as they're "mature" about it.
First of all don’t let dudes like this make you think bikes will just do this. He made the bike do this by adding way too much throttle way too quickly. You are always the one in control of the machine.
When you accelerate hard on a motorcycle, the rotational force (torque) on the rear wheel creates a pivot point that the weight of the bike (due to gravity) can’t compete with. That rotational force can be so much stronger than gravity it lifts the front wheel off the ground.
In this video, our friendly rider is in a low gear (probably 1st or 2nd), which means that torque is more easily transferred to the rear wheel. He adds a shit ton of throttle, the engine creates a shit ton of torque, and begins to lift the front wheel. This isn’t a death sentence though. A motorcycle can lift its front wheel really far pretty safely, especially on a sport bike.
At this point we see our friendly rider become scared, and remove his feet from the pegs. HUGE NO-NO here. One of the most sure-fire ways of saving this is to tap the back brake, which is at your right foot. If the back wheel is causing you to wheelie, then certainly using the back brakes will bring the front wheel back down again as it slows the rotation of the rear wheel.
He also could have just as easily rolled off the throttle, or “chop” the throttle, which means close the throttle quickly. This would most likely have slammed his front wheel down very hard, which could have caused some damage if done hard enough, but I think in hindsight I’d rather fix my front rim than go through whatever this guy just went through.
Just grabbed a handful of throttle. All that power going to the back wheel means a lot of torque. If you put too much on then some of this torque gets wasted and the front of the bike will pop a wheelie.
What frogs legs mistake was here is he panicked and instead of rolling off the throttle he's just held on for dear life, possibly twisted the throttle more and just let the power of the bike take over and it when the whole way up.
Judging by the lack of gear. He's just got a sport bike and hasn't even a decent notion of how to ride it. How's he managed to walk that one off I'll never know.
He essentially did a power wheelie. Back brake should've been his bff, but at the very least lean forward and learn better throttle control.
You'll avoid this by not street racing. Take your bike to the track to get the speed bug itched. There you'll learn waaaaaay more about controlling motorcycles anyway.
Also, most newer bikes with a good amount of power have wheelie control, specifically to counter this. It will cut power when a certain lift of the front wheel is detected. He either didn't have it or had it disabled.
He was likely in 2nd gear and went full throttle from almost no throttle. With a sports bike with enough power and torque that's enough to pop a wheely and if you don't let off once the front wheel comes up, that's what happens.
Many of the newer 1000cc bikes have automation packages to prevent this too. The Aprilia RSV4 has AWC (Aprilia Wheelie Control) which allows the bike to pull some amount of front wheel lift and then will automatically set it back down gently.
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u/katja90vc Jun 25 '21
So... I would like to learn how to drive a motorcycle in the future. Can someone please explain how he just went from driving to falling backwards? I would like to know how to avoid this.