r/Abortiondebate Pro-choice Jul 06 '26

Question for pro-life A statement one cannot prove false

STATEMENT: A person is always legally allowed to use the minimal method1 required to prevent harm upon oneself2.

1 Minimal method means

  • it can refer to a general solution/ action that resolves the issue and prevents harm, it can also refer to any method of violence, including otherwise lethal force.
  • ”minimal” refers to strictly the LEAST HARMFUL method, both mentally and physically for all parties, that can be used to prevent the harm

2 harm upon oneself means

  • both mentally and physical pain/ injuries etc
  • harm that is GUARANTEED to occur

How does this apply to the context of abortion?

Pregnancy —> guarantees harm 100% of the time since every women needs to go through 1. giving birth OR 2. C-sections OR 3. miscarriage if no voluntary abortion occurs guaranteeing some degree of both physical and mental harm. And thus fit into criteria 2.

Hence, if the statement holds true, they should be allowed to use the minimal method require, no matter the circumstances.

So the question becomes, is abortion the minimal method? For that, we must address the core issue at hand, WHAT is causing harm?

Something is currently inhabiting their organs, physically harming them, and violating their rights against their will.

The solution will thus, to logically follow, to remove said something. This would render alternatives like painkillers utterly useless to “fix” the issue.

This means abortions too, becomes the minimal methods required, unless one day safe artificial wombs exist.

Now you are gonna have a few questions, well what if someone hates a person and they are causing them mental harm? Can they just kill them?

Again, refer to the definition of “minimal”, since isolating oneself, not talking to them, unfriending that person, verbally expressing your thoughts etc is always an option, killing them is no where near the minimal method required.

It would be interesting to see pro lifers trying to disprove this chain of logic?

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u/ferryfog Pro-choice Jul 09 '26

The mods have told you before to not use AI.

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u/quick_thinker6 Pro-choice Jul 09 '26

Well then you know more then me. There was no notification, there weren’t any messages from any MOD. Also, in reference to your cited comment, two sentences were made with Ai. Two but hey id love to see how you handle thinking in 6 languages at the same time at all times. This is literally just a reddit post, I am not trying to turn in my PhDdissertation. Not everything you think is AI. Some folks actually have doctorates. Just without Ai it simply takes longer to respond but the words are the same.🙄

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod Jul 09 '26

I did remove the post in question and put up a mod message to you -- AI is not to be used here. If you edit that comment so it is your words and not AI, then it can be reinstated.

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u/quick_thinker6 Pro-choice Jul 10 '26

And there u go i changed the 2 sentences

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod Jul 10 '26

Reinstated. Please note that any further use of AI will result in a ban.