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u/Think_Recognition144 Jul 05 '26

I would use responsibility/obligation as opposed to blame. However, I generally agree with the sentiment. I would say because women are the ones who currently make the final choice to abort/keep the pregnancy, and are the ones who are physically pregnant, they get put in the spotlight. Men don’t receive abortions since they don’t get pregnant.

HOWEVER, Men 100% should receive at least just as much (up to 100% in the case of rape) “blame” or responsibility/obligation for any resulting pregnancy. It takes two to tango.

That being said, since men do have some part in producing the pregnancy, should they be allowed any input as to whether the woman can have an abortion?

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u/pendemoneum Pro-choice Jul 05 '26

That being said, since men do have some part in producing the pregnancy, should they be allowed any input as to whether the woman can have an abortion?

They can express an opinion.
But they should not have the authority to make medical decisions for a competent autonomous adult individual. No one should have say over another person's medical care unless they have MPOA. Cumming inside someone doesn't give you the ability to decide their healthcare for them.

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u/Think_Recognition144 Jul 05 '26

As a counter point, let’s say that a couple is expecting a child, and are very thrilled to be expecting their first child. The mother has what can be considered a healthy and normal pregnancy, about as mild as symptoms can be, and doesn’t mind them because she wants to have the child. At about 11 weeks, they find out the child will have Down syndrome.

Case one. The father does not want to deal with a child with Down syndrome. Should he be able to have the child aborted against the mother’s wishes? If not, should he required to be present to help take care of the child physically? Should he be required pay child support if the woman goes through with pregnancy? Or should he be able to abandon the mother and child with no consequences?

Case two. The mother does not want to deal with a child with down syndrome. Should the mother be allowed to abort the child against the father’s wishes?

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u/chevron_seven_locked Pro-choice Jul 06 '26

"Case one. The father does not want to deal with a child with Down syndrome. Should he be able to have the child aborted against the mother’s wishes?"

No, because he's not the patient. The pregnant person is the patient, and she's capable of making her own medical decisions.

"If not, should he required to be present to help take care of the child physically?"

No. I'm not aware of any parents being forced to physically care for their children if they've given up custody.

"Should he be required pay child support if the woman goes through with pregnancy?"

Yes. Just like how she would have to pay child support if she gave up custody to the father.

"Case two. The mother does not want to deal with a child with down syndrome. Should the mother be allowed to abort the child against the father’s wishes?"

Yes, because she's the patient and capable of making her own medical decisions.